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[sangy]

Since ME3 is supposed to have more of an impact from your choices from both ME1 and ME2, aside from the obvious allies like Quarians, Turians, Krogan, etc., depending on your choice from the geth ship with Legion do you think it's possible we'll be getting geth to help us out?

Now that I think about it, even the Rachni could be helping out if your choices of ME1 were favorable towards them.  ME2 made a statement through the Asari who forwarded a message from the Rachni queen. Those two forces right there would be very interesting to see as allies.

I can't think of any other allies at the moment, but these would really be huge choices in actions from ME1 and ME2.   

What do you guys (and gals) think? 

[izmirtheastarach]

Do you want spoilers? Because this is the section of the forums where you are liable to get answers that contain them.

[Taleroth]

Hehehehehe

I think you overestimate the result of your choices.

[sangy]

I don't know...I think it's going to take a lot to bring down those Reapers. From the beginning of the ME3 demo, things look real bad from the start. I have a feeling there's a 50/50 chance I might be right on this one.

[cameronnadal]

Yes. The setup was made with Legion's loyalty mission. The one where you discover that only some geth worship the reapers, the ones called heretics. You have the option to destroy them or rewrite their data and make them come back into the geth fold, who don't worship the reapers. So there will be an opportunity to get them to join you.

[furryrage59]

I released the rachni queen so it would be wonderful to have them come and help in any way, say hi etc.

[colouroflife]

I think you will have to make a choice between Quarians and Geth. Should you choose one, you lose support of other. Considering conflict between Salarians and Krogans, a similar decision may be awaiting for us to be made.

I personally would prefer Quarians over Geth and Salarians over Krogans. My guess is, to earn their support, we will have to help them, in one way or another, against other species. These two conflicts are even worth to play Mass Effect 3. This should be most interesting and intriguing.

[littlemo130]

sangy wrote...

I don't know...I think it's going to take a lot to bring down those Reapers. From the beginning of the ME3 demo, things look real bad from the start. I have a feeling there's a 50/50 chance I might be right on this one.

The reapers don't exist.  Didn't get the memo?

[Literoy]

furryrage59 wrote...

I released the rachni queen so it would be wonderful to have them come and help in any way, say hi etc.

I pretty sure rachni will play a major role in the ME3. They have a war named after them, yet we had only one appearance of them in ME1. If they won't show up, Bioware will be tittled as devs who are too lazy to develop a race.

[sangy]

colouroflife wrote...

I think you will have to make a choice between Quarians and Geth. Should you choose one, you lose support of other. Considering conflict between Salarians and Krogans, a similar decision may be awaiting for us to be made.

I personally would prefer Quarians over Geth and Salarians over Krogans. My guess is, to earn their support, we will have to help them, in one way or another, against other species. These two conflicts are even worth to play Mass Effect 3. This should be most interesting and intriguing.

You could be right.  Nothing set in stone yet.  I really hope we don't have to decide between groups.  I definately want all the support of the Asari, Krogans, Salarians, Quarians, Turians, and possibly races like Batarians or Drell (but I doubt we'll see that).  I would like to think with both support of Rachni and Geth (at least a portion of them) and all the other races grouped together we have a good chance of wiping out the enemy all together.

I just keep thinking of the end of ME2 and the beginning of ME3...It just looks like total universal control take-over by the Reapers.  Nothing in ME1 or ME2 compares to what is faced in ME3.  It's really interesting how in the world they're going to pull this off. 

[Dr. rotinaj]

sangy wrote...

You could be right.  Nothing set in stone yet.  I really hope we don't have to decide between groups.  I definately want all the support of the Asari, Krogans, Salarians, Quarians, Turians, and possibly races like Batarians or Drell (but I doubt we'll see that).  I would like to think with both support of Rachni and Geth (at least a portion of them) and all the other races grouped together we have a good chance of wiping out the enemy all together.

Why? That's what makes the game fun. If we didn't have to choose, the importance of  the Geth/Quarian and Krogan/Salarian conflicts would be diminished.

Modifié par Dr. rotinaj, 24 février 2012 - 04:27 .

[Hyrist]

Dr. rotinaj wrote...
Why? That's what makes the game fun. If we didn't have to choose, the importance of  the Geth/Quarian and Krogan/Salarian conflicts would be diminished.

But if I spent 3 games trying to Convince Tali that peace with the Geth is best, and attempting so had no impact, I would be upset.

[Butthead11]

Hyrist wrote...

Dr. rotinaj wrote...
Why? That's what makes the game fun. If we didn't have to choose, the importance of  the Geth/Quarian and Krogan/Salarian conflicts would be diminished.

But if I spent 3 games trying to Convince Tali that peace with the Geth is best, and attempting so had no impact, I would be upset.

Tali isn't queen of the Quarians.

it's not her choice. 

[colouroflife]

Sangy, i have not much sympathy for Krogan and Geth are just machines, consisted of hardware and software, but i understand you. Reapers are too powerful to handle with and we probably will need all assistance we can find. I also doubt you can get any help from Batarians, especially considering that we destroyed their mass relay and killed 300.000 Batarians.

[Slayer299]

I think dr.rotinaj's point wasn't tali but the peace part with the Quarians/Geth.

The Geth allying with the Reapers somehow doesn't surprise me, because in Legions loyalty mission you either blow up the Heretics (which might make the other Geth consider you dangerous) or you re-write the Heretics and they still come to the same conclusion later on to serve the Reapers. Both of which leaves you in the same boat, but at least blowing the Heretics up leaves them that much less programs to fight with.

[colouroflife]

Slayer299, what you wrote is true generally. Mind this that the vast majority of Geth are against old machines, aka Reapers. They peacefully allowed Heretics to leave and didn't act against them until that virus issue. So i doubt Geth would consider Shepard as dangerous because he/she acted in a way for the favour of Geth either he/she decided to destroy Heretics or to re-write them. In fact, Shepard eliminated a danger that may cause all Geth to worship Reapers. Even if Shepard sides with Quarians, i doubt Geth would ally with Reapers. They have no emotions that may make them resent.

[sangy]

Slayer299 wrote...

I think dr.rotinaj's point wasn't tali but the peace part with the Quarians/Geth.

The Geth allying with the Reapers somehow doesn't surprise me, because in Legions loyalty mission you either blow up the Heretics (which might make the other Geth consider you dangerous) or you re-write the Heretics and they still come to the same conclusion later on to serve the Reapers. Both of which leaves you in the same boat, but at least blowing the Heretics up leaves them that much less programs to fight with.

If the Reapers could install a virus to have the Geth work for them, why not take the same idea and use it to our advantage.  Some may say it's wrong (psssh, Paragaons....jk) but I feel the same as some, they're just machines.  In fact, I'm not very fond of the Geth, but I'd work with them if it meant slaying the beast for good. 

[TeamLexana]

Taleroth wrote...

Hehehehehe

I think you overestimate the result of your choices.

I hope not. I'd LOVE for the rachni queen I set free came back and helped against the reapers. I was expecting she would all along since I had a theory the other rachni were indocornated to attack in the first place as a way to try and keep the galaxy weaker and to force the rachni's extinction as result. I'd be thinking she'd want a little payback, especially in a "fight the reapers or wait for your turn to die" scenerio. 

[Hyrist]

Butthead11 wrote...



Tali isn't queen of the Quarians.

it's not her choice. 

Not alone. But not only did I secure loyalty between her and Legion, I also put her in a position where the quarian people looked up to her.

It might not be her decision alone, but she has sway now, as does Legion ("We serve as at Terminal to the Geth".)

I am a supporter of the "Earn your Happy Ending" trope, and I beleive it's deserved in this case.

[Slayer299]

sangy wrote...

Slayer299 wrote...

I think dr.rotinaj's point wasn't tali but the peace part with the Quarians/Geth.

The Geth allying with the Reapers somehow doesn't surprise me, because in Legions loyalty mission you either blow up the Heretics (which might make the other Geth consider you dangerous) or you re-write the Heretics and they still come to the same conclusion later on to serve the Reapers. Both of which leaves you in the same boat, but at least blowing the Heretics up leaves them that much less programs to fight with.

If the Reapers could install a virus to have the Geth work for them, why not take the same idea and use it to our advantage.  Some may say it's wrong (psssh, Paragaons....jk) but I feel the same as some, they're just machines.  In fact, I'm not very fond of the Geth, but I'd work with them if it meant slaying the beast for good. 

I'd have nothing against doing a virus to do that with the Geth and besides, its not like they can "die" either being as they are software.

[Slayer299]

colouroflife wrote...

Slayer299, what you wrote is true generally. Mind this that the vast majority of Geth are against old machines, aka Reapers. They peacefully allowed Heretics to leave and didn't act against them until that virus issue. So i doubt Geth would consider Shepard as dangerous because he/she acted in a way for the favour of Geth either he/she decided to destroy Heretics or to re-write them. In fact, Shepard eliminated a danger that may cause all Geth to worship Reapers. Even if Shepard sides with Quarians, i doubt Geth would ally with Reapers. They have no emotions that may make them resent.

If I used the word resent than I was wrong, you are very correct that the Geth have no emotions. But if Shepard were to side with the Quarians over them they may come to the logical conclusion that they can defeat the Quarian with a higher probability of success than if they do not remove Shepard from the equation entirely.

But to the Heretics, from Legion's loyalty mission, the reason for their helping Sovereign was due to a math computation, not a virus. The virus was being created in order to turn all the other Geth into serving the Reapers.

[Drimberly]

The answer?


Geth in ME1 and 2. That was 5% of the entire race. The Krogan were nearly enough to destroy the Citidel without the Genephage they would have suceeded. Finally the Rachni. They would have also wiped out the council without the citidel. Rachni + Krogan + Geth = Dead Reapers.