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[mauro2222]

And how the **** does homosexuality suit a person?

[Collider]

mauro2222 wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

God i hope not.

Doesn't suit him at all

Nothing against that kind of thing but don't make him ****** for the sake of it

Jesus! bisexual.... BISEXUAL.... BI - SEXUAL.

God, I feel like if I were a non existant entity.

And from his dialogue, he likes Shepard, not his body.

The dialog Klace posted? Chris Priestley cast some doubt on whether that was legimitate.

I would really dislike if they did the "I'm not actually attracted to men, just you" approach with Kaidan. For one, that seems to be shying away from homosexuality/bisexuality (something Bioware/Mass Effect seems to be doing especially with male characters) and another - that doesn't seem to be the healthiest relationship.

[ElitePinecone]

Collider wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

God i hope not.

Doesn't suit him at all

Nothing against that kind of thing but don't make him ****** for the sake of it

Jesus! bisexual.... BISEXUAL.... BI - SEXUAL.

God, I feel like if I were a non existant entity.

And from his dialogue, he likes Shepard, not his body.

The dialog Klace posted? Chris Priestley cast some doubt on whether that was legimitate.

I would really dislike if they did the "I'm not actually attracted to men, just you" approach with Kaidan. For one, that seems to be shying away from homosexuality/bisexuality (something Bioware/Mass Effect seems to be doing especially with male characters) and another - that doesn't seem to be the healthiest relationship.

Uness they majorly changed the dialogue from November, which I don't think is very likely, dialogue of the sort Klace invented seems... not at all what the game will be like. You've read it, there are hardly any references to gender and (thankfuly) it steers away from the slightly bizarre notion that the VS finds nobody of their own gender attractive other than Shepard.

We can be glad that was made up. 

[JamesMoriarty123]

See, I prefer Kaiden's banter to Ashley's in the first game. Kaiden is UNMISTAKEABLY straight, he comments on Liara, has a whole story about a female lost love (all you people who are gonna go "Oh, he can be Bi!" get a grip will you, generally it's as simple as it looks, guy mentions a former love who was a girl, he's straight) but I can't help think Bioware will have outdone themselves and caved to the extremely small but vocal gay community on here who want to retcon EVERYONE into being bloody Bisexual.

Not only is it unrealistic, it's rediculous. By and large, most people are straight, that's it. Not to mention the precedents set in the first 2 games, etc, etc.

I really don't give a crap about having a gay character in the game, some of THE COOLEST characters in fiction are gay...Louis the assassin from the John Connolley novels, Omar from the Wire, etc, etc. So if Vega turns out to be gay, great, as long as he's well written.

I just don't want to take the risk that I'm gonna be playing and have to deal with a "Gay Kaiden" scenario after the "brothers-in-arms" camaradarie of the first game between him and Shep.
I really, really don't want to ZevKnife him, but I will if I have to. In fact I think I'm gonna have to just because I don't want to take the chance.

Goodbye Kaiden old buddy...gonna have to take Ash forward instead.

[Carfax]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

See, I prefer Kaiden's banter to Ashley's in the first game. Kaiden is UNMISTAKEABLY straight, he comments on Liara, has a whole story about a female lost love (all you people who are gonna go "Oh, he can be Bi!" get a grip will you, generally it's as simple as it looks, guy mentions a former love who was a girl, he's straight) but I can't help think Bioware will have outdone themselves and caved to the extremely small but vocal gay community on here who want to retcon EVERYONE into being bloody Bisexual.

I have to agree here.  It's obvious the writers of ME intended Kaidan to be perceived as heterosexual, seeing as he was FemShep's primary love interest.

Gays are deluding themselves if they think Kaidan was homosexual, or even bisexual. 

[catabuca]

Considering devs themselves have been tweeting about how Shepard (and by extension, in that case, someone like Kaidan) coming out in ME3 doesn't go against anything we saw in the first 2 games, I think you guys are the ones who are deluding yourselves now.

That and your rigid view of what sexuality is or isn't not actually standing up to scrutiny in the face of countless gay and bi people's own lived experiences, of course.

Right now, sucks to be you.

[shedevil3001]

i dont mind bi characters or even gay, what i do find annoying is a character in previous games been straight and giving no indication they are anything but straight all of a sudden turning gay or bi just to suit all those who want that in game, it should be a new person with a new story not a re-written fanservice, which seems to be the case with every li now all of a sudden they go with anything that breathes

[shepskisaac]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

See, I prefer Kaiden's banter to Ashley's in the first game. Kaiden is UNMISTAKEABLY straight, he comments on Liara

Who says he wouldn't comment on sexy new male Drell squadmate if ohh IDK, one JOINED the crew like Liara did? There wasn't even a chance for him to do that.

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
(all you people who are gonna go "Oh, he can be Bi!" get a grip will you, generally it's as simple as it looks, guy mentions a former love who was a girl, he's straight)

Perhaps you only dated/been in love with one person in your life, but newsflash, most people have been with more so a story about 1 doesn't determine their entire lives and personas

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
I just don't want to take the risk that I'm gonna be playing and have to deal with a "Gay Kaiden" scenario after the "brothers-in-arms" camaradarie of the first game between him and Shep.
I really, really don't want to ZevKnife him, but I will if I have to. In fact I think I'm gonna have to just because I don't want to take the chance.

Goodbye Kaiden old buddy...gonna have to take Ash forward instead.

Damn. You male friends who may be secretly bi/gay should run for their lives!

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 février 2012 - 09:12 .

[catabuca]

Guess what? Some people are gay. Some people aren't. All players of the game, gay or straight, want to be able to play the game in a way that they find enjoyable. All players want to be treated the same. Now everyone gets to. It's awesome, isn't it?

[Carfax]

catabuca wrote...

Considering devs themselves have been tweeting about how Shepard (and by extension, in that case, someone like Kaidan) coming out in ME3 doesn't go against anything we saw in the first 2 games, I think you guys are the ones who are deluding yourselves now.

The writers can determine anything they want to concerning a character, thats their perogative.  My point is, that no one can say that Kaidan wasn't intentionally designed to be straight, as he was FemShep's primary love interest to begin with.

That and your rigid view of what sexuality is or isn't not actually standing up to scrutiny in the face of countless gay and bi people's own lived experiences, of course.

Right now, sucks to be you.

Are we bringing the real world into this now?  Trust me you don't want to go there, because I'm quite certain that Bioware's rendition of human sexuality is nothing like reality.

[Frozen83]

To no one particular...
Cute. So you know about everybody if they are str8, bi, gay, whatever around you? I was very surprized about some people in my life. Plus, you think you can't be friends bith gay, bi, str8 people of the same/different sex? That's very limiting... There is a simple word for all that - prejudice. M.

[JamesMoriarty123]

IsaacShep wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

See, I prefer Kaiden's banter to Ashley's in the first game. Kaiden is UNMISTAKEABLY straight, he comments on Liara

Who says he wouldn't comment on sexy new male Drell squadmate if ohh IDK, one JOINED the crew like Liara did? There wasn't even a chance for him to do that.

"Hmm...sweet girl, easy on the eyes, if you like the bookish sort", sounds to me like he's straight. I mean he doesn't comment on Garrus or Wrex, and they're aliens.

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
(all you people who are gonna go "Oh, he can be Bi!" get a grip will you, generally it's as simple as it looks, guy mentions a former love who was a girl, he's straight)

IsaacShep wrote...
Perhaps you only dated/been in love with one person in your life, but newsflash, most people have been with more so a story about 1 doesn't determine their entire lives and personas

Well, see, I don't know what kind of warped perception of reality you have there, but bisexuality isn't exactly rampant. The continuation of the species depends on it, pal. Most people are straight, and most men who show an interest in women are straight, sorry to burst your bubble. As a previous poster also said, it's more than clear he wasn't written in as gay or Bi, the dev's themselves confirmed that very thing in previous interviews, stating they weren't doing gaymance in ME, but obviously that's changed. And great that it has, as I mentioned, I'm not against it. I am against messing with established characters.

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
I just don't want to take the risk that I'm gonna be playing and have to deal with a "Gay Kaiden" scenario after the "brothers-in-arms" camaradarie of the first game between him and Shep.
I really, really don't want to ZevKnife him, but I will if I have to. In fact I think I'm gonna have to just because I don't want to take the chance.

Goodbye Kaiden old buddy...gonna have to take Ash forward instead.

IsaacShep wrote...
Damn. You male friends who may be secretly bi/gay should run for their lives!

I have no risk of my buddies turning out to be gay, not with their habits. But even if any of them did, that's cool with me. I'm pretty sure I won't have to handle a come on from them in cheesy Bioware style. (ahem, Anders, Zev, etc, ahem)

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 28 février 2012 - 09:28 .

[Collider]

Uness they majorly changed the dialogue from November, which I don't think is very likely, dialogue of the sort Klace invented seems... not at all what the game will be like. You've read it, there are hardly any references to gender and (thankfuly) it steers away from the slightly bizarre notion that the VS finds nobody of their own gender attractive other than Shepard.

We can be glad that was made up.

I hope so.

[Collider]

Finding other people of the opposite sex attractive doesn't make you heterosexual.
Headcanoning aside, this only means that Kaidan isn't gay.

[Trooper-Cameron]

shedevil3001 wrote...

i dont mind bi characters or even gay, what i do find annoying is a character in previous games been straight and giving no indication they are anything but straight all of a sudden turning gay or bi just to suit all those who want that in game, it should be a new person with a new story not a re-written fanservice, which seems to be the case with every li now all of a sudden they go with anything that breathes

http://www.destructo...ce-201258.phtml
If you dont mind spoilers you could dig through some of Spoiler discussion group under the "Space Edition" thread, has some interesting info.

[catabuca]

In all honesty, I don't really care any more whether the game wants to say one way or another whether X character was gay/straight/bi during ME1 and 2. All I care about is the fact that my Shepards can be gay if they want to be, and in ME3 they can finally actually express that.

Whether Kaidan or anyone else identified, theoretically, as gay, straight or bi in ME1 and 2 means absolutely nothing to me. I can believe whatever the heck I want in my playthroughs, just as anyone else is able to think whatever they want. I'm just happy gayShep finally has a choice.

[xtorma]

sorry kaiden, but someone had to blow the bomb ....at least now, i am sure you were qualified.

[shepskisaac]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

"Hmm...sweet girl, easy on the eyes, if you like the bookish sort", sounds to me like he's straight.

Do you realize that bisexual people LIKE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN which means a bisexual guy will say exactly the same thing as a straight guy if he sees a girl he likes

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
I mean he doesn't comment on Garrus or Wrex, and they're aliens.

Yeah and they're so easy on the eyes  

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Well, see, I don't know what kind of warped perception of reality you have there, but bisexuality isn't exactly rampant. The continuation of the species depends on it, pal. Most people are straight, and most men who show an interest in women are straight, sorry to burst your bubble.

And? Are you saying Kaidan can't be bi because of statistics? That's like saying he can't be left-handed because most people are right-handed

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As a previous poster also said, it's more than clear he wasn't written in as gay or Bi, the dev's themselves confirmed that very thing in previous interviews, stating they weren't doing gaymance in ME

Not they never did that. And no gay romance doesn't automatically mean that a character is straight. There's no gay romance with Jack, but she still sleeps with girls.

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
I have no risk of my buddies turning out to be gay, not with their habits.

Never take anything for granted

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 février 2012 - 09:40 .

[jamiekas]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

Will Kaidan be the only Bi/****** character?

No. There's also Steve, Samantha, Diana Allers, and Ashley.

Oh, and Liara of course.

Steve? Who is Steve?

[Collider]

So far as Jack, it looked to me that they put that there to emphasize her experimentation, immaturity, vulnerability, etc.
It's also apparent that you don't need to be attracted to both of the genders involved in a threesome. Sorry to be blunt, but it's true.

[jamiekas]

shedevil3001 wrote...

i dont mind bi characters or even gay, what i do find annoying is a character in previous games been straight and giving no indication they are anything but straight all of a sudden turning gay or bi just to suit all those who want that in game, it should be a new person with a new story not a re-written fanservice, which seems to be the case with every li now all of a sudden they go with anything that breathes

[JamesMoriarty123]

IsaacShep wrote...

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...

"Hmm...sweet girl, easy on the eyes, if you like the bookish sort", sounds to me like he's straight.

Do you realize that bisexual people LIKE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN which means a bisexual guy will say exactly the same thing as a straight guy if he sees a girl he likes

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
I mean he doesn't comment on Garrus or Wrex, and they're aliens.

Yeah and they're so easy on the eyes  

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Well, see, I don't know what kind of warped perception of reality you have there, but bisexuality isn't exactly rampant. The continuation of the species depends on it, pal. Most people are straight, and most men who show an interest in women are straight, sorry to burst your bubble.

And? Are you saying Kaidan can't be bi because of statistics? That's like saying he can't be left-handed because most people are right-handed

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
As a previous poster also said, it's more than clear he wasn't written in as gay or Bi, the dev's themselves confirmed that very thing in previous interviews, stating they weren't doing gaymance in ME

Not they never did that. And no gay romance doesn't automatically mean that a character is straight. There's no gay romance with Jack, but she still sleeps with girls.

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
I have no risk of my buddies turning out to be gay, not with their habits.

Never take anything for granted

Your schoolboy logic astounds me.

Sadly I can't put forward a rebuke against such blatant stupidity. Taking my comments out of context and snapping back with childish one liners isn't how you debate a point. But it is how you acknowledge losing an argument, well done.

You think Drell are easy on the eyes? Lol...

A bisexual person might say the same thing if a man walked past, but that wasn't your point, you point was relating to aliens, which is why I countered by mentioning Garrus and Wrex...ahh what's the use...

Also check your facts, Bioware DID state in previous interviews there was never going to be gaymance in ME, it only changed about a year ago.

Anyway, I've said all I need to, we'll found out who's gay and who's not in a week anyway, if Kaiden isn't gay, I might just rerun ME1 and not ZevKnife him. I really hope he isn't, more at this point just to ****** off the fanatical gay community that wish SO HARD for it to be so...

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 28 février 2012 - 10:05 .

[shepskisaac]

JamesMoriarty123 wrote...
Your schoolboy logic astounds me.

Sadly I can't put forward a rebuke against such blatant stupidity. Taking my comments out of context and snapping back with childish one liners isn't how you debate a point. But it is how you acknowledge losing an argument, well done.

You think Drell are easy on the eyes? Lol...

A bisexual person might say the same thing if a man walked past, but that wasn't your point, you point was relating to aliens, which is why I countered by mentioning Garrus and Wrex...ahh what's the use...

Also check your facts, Bioware DID state in previous interviews there was never going to be gaymance in ME, it only changed about a year ago.

lol someone's losing argument and starts going with "hur dur stupidity you don't understand it at all". And yes, Drell are 10 times easier on the eyes than Garrus & Wrex because they look 10 times more like humans than Garrus & Wrex. Fact. And again, just because they didn't want to give an option to ManShep to romance guys doesn't mean yet that these guys were/are straight. FemShep can't romance Jack yet Jack isn't straight

[mauro2222]

Neither Samara T.T

[mauro2222]

catabuca wrote...

Guess what? Some people are gay. Some people aren't. All players of the game, gay or straight, want to be able to play the game in a way that they find enjoyable. All players want to be treated the same. Now everyone gets to. It's awesome, isn't it?

Indeed, I don't see the problem. Some scream RETCON! if they aren't going to do the romance, whats the problem?