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[bobbo8u]

a possible solution to the 'everyone runs around with only a pistol' concern is to make the 'weapon type x weighs less' come at the start of the skill tree instead of the end. and then maybe make it more of a % decrease. ie shotguns weight 50% less instead of 20-30% less. this helps class specialize more, and may make heavier weapons more appealing. would also make bringing a 2nd weapon more tempting because u can bring your class weapon and have it weight half.

possibly discussed before, possibly already fixed for release, possibly developers decide to not change anything

what say u forum community?

DISCUSS

[Trinity66]

who is running around with pistols? I have only shotgun... There are a lot of snipers and avenger/mattock users..

[O66 Jenova]

imo theres no need for even more weight reduction... no need for heavyer weapons than a heavy pistol on an adept, because you are casting most of the time anyways
and heavy pistols are a great weapon at every range

edit: me is running around with pistols only for example

Modifié par O66 Jenova, 24 février 2012 - 08:39 .

[Father Alvito]

Pretty much any caster class should be running Carnifex if they have it. I think the OP's concern is that if the devs simply nerf the Carnifex, a lot of people will just switch to Phalanx or some other new pistol available in the full release.

I'm really not sure what the Avenger people are thinking. Mine's trash.

[dryz]

only pistol is good strategy for biotic users. i dont get what your issue is? Its not like your fighting against other players so if they find a way to be more effective why would you complain? Id think the real problem is all the snipers running around, when i see 2 to 3 players all carrying sniper rifles i know its going to be a long match of me watching over everyones shoulder so they dont get crept up on because they all have tunnel vision, well most do there are a few very good snipers who are effective and can watch their own back but mostly this isnt the case. Its always some level 7 who just unlocked the widow and thinks they are amazing because the enemies are blowing up, but dont see that nemesis or guardian sneaking up behind them.

[P1G V3n0m]

Trinity66 wrote...

who is running around with pistols? I have only shotgun... There are a lot of snipers and avenger/mattock users..

Me.  But not because of weight, I just prefer the pistol.

I like the OPs idea though.

[Kaylord]

I think a nerf is in order, based on armor type. Pistols should be less effective against shields, submachineguns should be more effective on shields plus get more punch on health. The latter too with assault rifles, plus increased effectiveness on armor.

Right now, pistol, sniper rifle and for vanguards the shotgun are the stars of the game.

[O66 Jenova]

avangers suck for adepts... no precision... no real damage... shotguns arent good for all ranges, mattock is too heavy... pistols FTW

Modifié par O66 Jenova, 24 février 2012 - 08:45 .

[vanguard_of_destruction]

O66 Jenova wrote...

avangers suck for adepts... no precision... no real damage... shotguns arent good for all ranges, mattock is too heavy... pistols FTW

disagree with the shotgun part acurracy + damage upgrade = gears shotgun on super steroids
not more effective then a sniper but pretty damn near especially the claymore heads poping from a shotgun half way across the map is SOOOOOO satisfying 

[Peer of the Empire]

Father Alvito wrote...
I'm really not sure what the Avenger people are thinking. Mine's trash.

It is.  But it's fun with a large clip and 70% stability

[dw99027]

Not nearly enough DPS on the Avenger, even maxed...

[themaxzero]

chief0390 wrote...

It's pretty ridiculous how much damage the Carnifex deals out. With a high caliber barrel, it hits almost as hard as the Mantis, but it's a third of the weight. While the zoom isn't as good, it actually makes popping heads from mid-range WAY easier. Plus it's semi-auto. Awesome gun, but it will probably get nerfed. I don't even use a sniper rifle with my infiltrator now, because if I carry the Carnifex, I'm only a little less effective from range, and I can carry a shotgun.

Remember a lot of guns are not in the demo. The Scorpion and Ivory with both give the Carnifex are run for it's money in just the pistol catagory alone. The Scorpion is even an uncommon.

The Black Widow, Javelin, Saber, Falcon and Geth Plasma Shotgun should also be good. That's just from base stats. Alot of the guns have unique firing mechanisms (Vindicator, Scorpion) that a not show on the the stats.

The Carnifex is the best gun in the demo (though messing around with the Scorpion I have my doubts on even that) but that may not translate to the full game.

All you would need to balance the Carnifex would be to have a few maps with fewer ammo caches. Wouldn't need to get rid of them all just only have a couple.

Modifié par themaxzero, 24 février 2012 - 09:14 .

[LadyAlekto]

I prefer my avenger x, takes me the same time to down multiple enemys then with my carnifex but allows to mow enemys, keep phantoms busy and their cloak flicking and doesnt really add any weight

[Magicman10893]

Father Alvito wrote...

Pretty much any caster class should be running Carnifex if they have it. I think the OP's concern is that if the devs simply nerf the Carnifex, a lot of people will just switch to Phalanx or some other new pistol available in the full release.

I'm really not sure what the Avenger people are thinking. Mine's trash.

The Avenger is super lightweight for an assault rifle. With just it I have a 200% bonus to recharge speed. With Recoil Dampener V on it the Avenger is like a more accurate and powerful version of the Tempest. When you get the Avenger X and Recoil Dampener V it becomes uncannily accurate while still giving you a recharge speed equal to or greater than the Phalanx. 

[nicethugbert]

I'd rather everyone run around with a pistol than they run around with their underwear on their head. Leave well enough alone.

[O66 Jenova]

but you only need 2 shots to kill almost any enemy with a Phalanx or Carnifex

Modifié par O66 Jenova, 24 février 2012 - 09:23 .

[Jestina]

I don't run around with a pistol and neither do a lot of others i've seen, except adepts and engineers usually. My weapon of choice is a shotgun.

[dw99027]

Jestina, you play as the master class. You are exempt.

[ncknck]

pistols have too high accuracy allowing easy headshots, which boosts their overall damage way over.. basically over everything. better rof than snipers, better dps than AR.

[Jestina]

dw99027 wrote...
Jestina, you play as the master class. You are exempt.

Vanguard or Krogan soldier? 

[Gladegunner]

At least make it the 4th rank, so its a choice and not a given. And for those who prefer to play with just SMG's and Pistols, given that the phalanx and tempest give 200%, would be wasted as a forced choice.

[O66 Jenova]

sometimes i wonder if everyone is realizing, that the 200% isnt 200%, it is (PLUS) +200% recharge speed. anyone can use any weapon without any penalties on their skills... no need to change imo... if u want to use a heave weapon - use it. mainly you will still have a positive recharge speed.

[Peer of the Empire]

Jestina wrote...

dw99027 wrote...
Jestina, you play as the master class. You are exempt.

Vanguard or Krogan soldier? 

My faves   But shotty engineers are not bad