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[foo man chew]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

You know I keep seeing this pop up, but I have to ask: Why SHOULD game companies respect you? You never show them any respect.They work hard to give you a great experience and yet the second they do something you don't like, you condemn them and call them monsters. To get respect, you have to give it. And Lord & Master Foamy the Squirrel, the gamers are not giving it at ALL.

Just my 2 credits.

Your opinion is fine but were supposed to respect game companies for trying to make a quick dollar off us.And why do they get put on a pedestal by some gamers.I never here about a teacher,doctor or anybody else that works begging for praise to do their jobs.But thats just my opinion.

[Cody211282]

ReconTeam wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
If it doesn't, then all you're doing is getting upset that you didn't get Zaeed free with your version of the game. Only if it does will your argument have merit because only in that case will it have been content cut from the main game to sell as DLC.

Both situations are possible. You've made an assumption that the latter is the case, and gotten upset. Assumptions are bad...

Yet the whole Cerberus network DLC came with a new (non-used) ME2 and it didn't have to be a Collector's Edition or anything special.

The Cerberus Network DLC was part of project 10 dollar to stop used game sales, this new DLC is part of project $60+, as in you pay $60 for a game then between $5-$10 3-4 times to get the full story. Basicly it's an easy way to raise the price of the game to around $100 without raising the price of the game.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Farbautisonn wrote...
The prothean teammate makes zero sense in any storytelling or lore sense. He is like introducing a ninja T-rex to the crew.

Really? I haven't read the spoilers or script (and don't spoil anything) but I was hoping there would be some decent background to it.

But rather it's just some random prothean who locked himself in a freezer? Maybe I'll put him out of his misery.

[GuardianAngel470]

Farbautisonn wrote...

The prothean teammate makes zero sense in any storytelling or lore sense. He is like introducing a ninja T-rex to the crew.

I sorta feel the same way honestly. In what world is it really acceptable to resurrect a 50,000 year-dead species for the purpose of having a squadmate? It's just a stupid idea to me but whatever. 

[GuardianAngel470]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

The Cerberus Network DLC was part of project 10 dollar to stop used game sales, this new DLC is part of project $60+, as in you pay $60 for a game then between $5-$10 3-4 times to get the full story. Basicly it's an easy way to raise the price of the game to around $100 without raising the price of the game.

*rage*

What the f*ck is wrong with you people?

The. Prothean. Is. Not. Im. Por. Tant.

Exercise in futility Eternal. They just do not care.

[Slashout]

Some people don't seem to understand that when the game goes gold, it happens at least 2/3 weeks before the actual games hit the shelves.
When the game is being burned on dvds they can't add things to the dvd, it's done. They can't delay this step either.
For those 3 weeks, it's up to the publisher, the marketing people to do their work.
The dev team has no more work. So do they wait doing nothing? Or do they start work on something else?

They start on something else... And it has to be a DLC as they can't open all the boxes 2 days before release and switch the dvds.

I don't like paid DLCs on day 1, but free DLC or those packaged into a special edition of the game is alright.
CE buyers pay for extra stuff. A non-essential character with a quest of his own? Sure that's worth it.
They could have given us a small pocket book on prothean lore in the CE box. But instead they did some extra work and gave us that lore through a character quest, and voiced dialogues. That makes the CE worth the extra cost to me. More than a art book, or sound track.

Modifié par Slashout, 24 février 2012 - 09:50 .

[Cody211282]

ReconTeam wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...
The prothean teammate makes zero sense in any storytelling or lore sense. He is like introducing a ninja T-rex to the crew.

Really? I haven't read the spoilers or script (and don't spoil anything) but I was hoping there would be some decent background to it.

But rather it's just some random prothean who locked himself in a freezer? Maybe I'll put him out of his misery.

I can see it now *the cryotube opens and the last of a long forgot race steps out blinking*
Shep "Ah hell no I just finished killing all you guys in the last game"
*Pulls out shotgun and unloads in the prothens face*
"Lets see Harbinger assume control of that!"

[Inquisitor Recon]

Cody211282 wrote...
I can see it now *the cryotube opens and the last of a long forgot race steps out blinking*
Shep "Ah hell no I just finished killing all you guys in the last game"
*Pulls out shotgun and unloads in the prothens face*
"Lets see Harbinger assume control of that!"

Brilliant. That should be an interrupt, but with an auto-save right before that cutscene for all of the people it catches off-guard.

[Farbautisonn]

ReconTeam wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...
The prothean teammate makes zero sense in any storytelling or lore sense. He is like introducing a ninja T-rex to the crew.

Really? I haven't read the spoilers or script (and don't spoil anything) but I was hoping there would be some decent background to it.

But rather it's just some random prothean who locked himself in a freezer? Maybe I'll put him out of his misery.

The spoiler is that he is included as a DLC non-essential part of the ME3 experience. That really should say it all.

[Cody211282]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

The Cerberus Network DLC was part of project 10 dollar to stop used game sales, this new DLC is part of project $60+, as in you pay $60 for a game then between $5-$10 3-4 times to get the full story. Basicly it's an easy way to raise the price of the game to around $100 without raising the price of the game.

*rage*

What the f*ck is wrong with you people?

The. Prothean. Is. Not. Im. Por. Tant.

I don't care if he has no impact on the game at all the fact that I have to pay for something that should have been on the damn game to start with. I'm already handing over $60, and for a friken college student that's a ton, there is no reason to bleed me for more money.

[foo man chew]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

The Cerberus Network DLC was part of project 10 dollar to stop used game sales, this new DLC is part of project $60+, as in you pay $60 for a game then between $5-$10 3-4 times to get the full story. Basicly it's an easy way to raise the price of the game to around $100 without raising the price of the game.

*rage*

What the f*ck is wrong with you people?

The. Prothean. Is. Not. Im. Por. Tant.

So if its not important then if they took it out of the ce edition you wouldnt care?And remember people who bought the ce edition are getting it for free so you cant use the i already paid for it argument.

[TheBlackBaron]

CuddilyEvil93 wrote...

I think the DLC was originally meant as an enticement to buy the CE, which I have no problem with. It seems the main issue is that it's being made available to the rest of the fanbase who didn't pony up for the CE. CEs were limited and several who wanted to get one will not be able to. The DLC is the one thing out of that package that can be readily made available to those who for whatever reason would miss out.

I don't see it as shipping an incomplete game. Had it been released in a month or two for those who didn't get the CE there wouldn't be a problem.

Funny thing is, had they chosen to wait a month before releasing it, all this would have been avoided. Or at least the majority of it would. But no, they opted to give people the option of ponying up for it on Day 1, so now it's an example of shady corporations and evil capitalism or some **** like that. Sometimes I wonder if people are just looking for any sort of casus belli, no matter how weak, to pirate the game. 

Actually, the best way to avoid this would to have not made it a frigging Prothean in the first place, considering how gimmicky the whole concept is. Then we wouldn't have people leaping to the conclusion that "HEZ OLD AND UH PROTHEAN, E MUST BE PORTANT" and parroting the words of a Yahtzee Croshaw-wannabe. 

[G3rman]

foo man chew wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

The Cerberus Network DLC was part of project 10 dollar to stop used game sales, this new DLC is part of project $60+, as in you pay $60 for a game then between $5-$10 3-4 times to get the full story. Basicly it's an easy way to raise the price of the game to around $100 without raising the price of the game.

*rage*

What the f*ck is wrong with you people?

The. Prothean. Is. Not. Im. Por. Tant.

So if its not important then if they took it out of the ce edition you wouldnt care?And remember people who bought the ce edition are getting it for free so you cant use the i already paid for it argument.

Important to the plot.  They added it to the CE as another reward to the fans buying the fan package that is the CE.

People who bought the CE are happy because they bought a cool character, those of us who read the script know that he isn't pivotal to the plot though.  You can live without him.

[GuardianAngel470]

foo man chew wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

The Cerberus Network DLC was part of project 10 dollar to stop used game sales, this new DLC is part of project $60+, as in you pay $60 for a game then between $5-$10 3-4 times to get the full story. Basicly it's an easy way to raise the price of the game to around $100 without raising the price of the game.

*rage*

What the f*ck is wrong with you people?

The. Prothean. Is. Not. Im. Por. Tant.

So if its not important then if they took it out of the ce edition you wouldnt care?And remember people who bought the ce edition are getting it for free so you cant use the i already paid for it argument.

That's correct, I wouldn't care. I probably wouldn't buy it at all as I've already voiced my opinion on its inclusion. If Prothy the Prothean didn't exist at all I would not care at all.

Hell, at this point the only reason I'm going to install/enable this thing is because I get the code as part of the CE.

Modifié par GuardianAngel470, 24 février 2012 - 09:58 .

[Moonshadow_Dark]

foo man chew wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

You know I keep seeing this pop up, but I have to ask: Why SHOULD game companies respect you? You never show them any respect.They work hard to give you a great experience and yet the second they do something you don't like, you condemn them and call them monsters. To get respect, you have to give it. And Lord & Master Foamy the Squirrel, the gamers are not giving it at ALL.

Just my 2 credits.

Your opinion is fine but were supposed to respect game companies for trying to make a quick dollar off us.And why do they get put on a pedestal by some gamers.I never here about a teacher,doctor or anybody else that works begging for praise to do their jobs.But thats just my opinion.

We don't put game companies on a pedestal. We just give them credit where credit is due. Bioware made a fantastic game series. They've given us a 4 year long adventure filled with nail biting suspense and heartfelt romance with a side of mind blowing action. So just because they do one thing you don't like, that gives you right to tear them down and ask for thier heads?

[HaloXenon]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

HaloXenon wrote...

But I respect them, I give them money when they give us a well-made product.
I am more than willing to pay artists for their work. That isn't the problem.
The problem is that they do not give us well-made products, yet ask for money, when its a sequel.
Where did the money go we poured them from the first game that was great?

That's one basic problem here.
Bioware is just one of the many falling short on this nowadays.
That needs to change. 

What the h*ll does this have to do with DLC?

• Directly? Nothing.
• In directly? Quite much. Think of Zaeed or Kasumi DLC.

Zaeed was just extra points for the last mission in ME2. Not a well-made dlc.
Kasumi was better made but still, only true fucntion of this extra was to add more points to make sure you survive last mission.  

[TheBlackBaron]

foo man chew wrote...

So if its not important then if they took it out of the ce edition you wouldnt care?And remember people who bought the ce edition are getting it for free so you cant use the i already paid for it argument.

A. I purchased the CE.

B. No, I would not care if they took him out. I pre-ordered it for the tin case, the feelies, and minor in-game content.

C. No, I did not get him for "free". What the hell do you think that $20 upcharge over the SE is going towards? It's not charity to EA and Bioware, that's for sure. 

[Imortalfalcon]

Don't we need to purchase an Evangelical Permit to talk about this kinda' stuff on the forums, or something?

[G3rman]

Imortalfalcon wrote...

Don't we need to purchase an Evangelical Permit to talk about this kinda' stuff on the forums, or something?

Woopsl.

Modifié par G3rman, 24 février 2012 - 10:02 .

[foo man chew]

G3rman wrote...

foo man chew wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

The Cerberus Network DLC was part of project 10 dollar to stop used game sales, this new DLC is part of project $60+, as in you pay $60 for a game then between $5-$10 3-4 times to get the full story. Basicly it's an easy way to raise the price of the game to around $100 without raising the price of the game.

*rage*

What the f*ck is wrong with you people?

The. Prothean. Is. Not. Im. Por. Tant.

So if its not important then if they took it out of the ce edition you wouldnt care?And remember people who bought the ce edition are getting it for free so you cant use the i already paid for it argument.

Important to the plot.  They added it to the CE as another reward to the fans buying the fan package that is the CE.

People who bought the CE are happy because they bought a cool character, those of us who read the script know that he isn't pivotal to the plot though.  You can live without him.

So buying the game isnt enough?To be a fan now you have to pay extra for a limited edition of a game.I guess if i donate 10 dollars to a charity im not really helping if my neighbor donates 20 dollars.

[Cody211282]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

 

Cody211282 wrote...

I don't care if he has no impact on the game at all the fact that I have to pay for something that should have been on the damn game to start with. I'm already handing over $60, and for a friken college student that's a ton, there is no reason to bleed me for more money.

 

I'm in college too, buddy. I know what it's like. But this adds nothing to the game, but extra. That's why it's not there.

I'm mostly going off of what they did with ME2, and DA:O, basicly to get the entire story and really finish the game you had to keep paying them for it and honestly I resent being bled like that. Now if it's a side story that comes out 4 or so months later that they wrote and everything after looking at feed back thats fine, or hell weapon DLC is AOK because it doesnt really add anything except for a new way to watch a health meter go down. But

The point isn't that it's extra, it's that they were working on this beforehand and left it out so they could charge people for it later.