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Who's betting bioware is going to screw over us proud few renegade players?


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It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.

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Being a pure Renegade and pure Paragon isn't smart to begin with.

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Oh I'm sure it will always work out for the pure paragon. Both the rachni and geth will be 100% trustworthy and would never go back on their word...

But while pure paragon Shepard hides under his bed and cries himself to sleep, renegades can deal with the extra challenge and will have the stories to brag about afterwards.

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This isnt PS:T or "the Pitt". This is a game where the pew pew crowd will likely get their cookie cutter "black and white" moralities catered to. Because thats where the money is.

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Of course the renegade players will get screwed. Biowares data from ME2 indicates that more than 80% of people prefer to be paragon. It's only basic economics of bioware corporation that you renegades are not worth more than some token fan service.

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XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.



Another chest thumping renegade talking crap.

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XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.


Well since renegades usually lean towards 'Humans should stand alone', and ME3 is about collecting alien allies to help fight the Reapers, you guys kinda screwed yourselves.

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Farbautisonn wrote...
This isnt PS:T or "the Pitt". This is a game where the pew pew crowd will likely get their cookie cutter "black and white" moralities catered to. Because thats where the money is.


And I had thought ME2, TIM, Cerberus, the collector base, and all of that good stuff was going to lead up to a lot of "shades of grey" sort of choices.

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ReconTeam wrote...

And I had thought ME2, TIM, Cerberus, the collector base, and all of that good stuff was going to lead up to a lot of "shades of grey" sort of choices.


-Shades of gray is highly subjective. I have a degree in politics behind me and I have studied the history and realpolitik of the world rather intensively. My definition of "Gray" would likely be "pitch black" for alot of people.

Mostly because people lead swaddled lives. We are so used to the "white" that when we see gray we think its "black". Most people havent got a bastard clue how "black" the world can be.

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I would argue that there are OCCASIONALLY good "grey" areas in ME games.



It's just they're never on the main plot.

Though I think the Collector Base is close. Heck, Cerberus as an organization isn't evil. One could argue that the goal of humanity is an admirable one.

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Weit and See.

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letting that asari commando sister live in samara's recruitment mission turned out to be a mistake, and killing her in cold blood is the right call
I have some hope
unless she comes back and helps you in me3. That will just take the ,,,

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G3rman wrote...

Being a pure Renegade and pure Paragon isn't smart to begin with.



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Drake-Shepard wrote...

letting that asari commando sister live in samara's recruitment mission turned out to be a mistake, and killing her in cold blood is the right call
I have some hope
unless she comes back and helps you in me3. That will just take the ,,,


I dont see how killing her was the right call. Last I checked eye for an eye wasnt the way crimes were handled in modern societies.

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 Well you guys have screwed over more than your fair share so I guess you had it coming.

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XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.

hey,now.  do you want to start a flame war?  

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XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2

No they didn't.

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2

No they didn't.


Can you cite an example?

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byne wrote...

Drake-Shepard wrote...

letting that asari commando sister live in samara's recruitment mission turned out to be a mistake, and killing her in cold blood is the right call
I have some hope
unless she comes back and helps you in me3. That will just take the ,,,


I dont see how killing her was the right call. Last I checked eye for an eye wasnt the way crimes were handled in modern societies.

Killing her is the safest route, yes.  However she still 'surrenered' and for that well she should have been arrested, or let go if disarmed at the extreme(which is what ended up happening). You can't execute criminals when they surrender, it is up to the courts to decide their fates.

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The Heretic choice in ME2 on Legion's loyalty? The Paragon one turns out to be the bad choice for instance. Getting Tali exiled is also bad. Killing Vido on Zaeed's loyalty? Good choice I'd wager.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 février 2012 - 10:10 .


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I giggle at the incessant paragon = puppies and teddy bears, renegade = badass no-nonsense tough guy idiocy.

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I thought Renegades were the guys who do what they please and don't give a crap what happens.

Guess you are not a true Renegade....

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

I giggle at the incessant paragon = puppies and teddy bears, renegade = badass no-nonsense tough guy idiocy.


As do I. As we all know, the paragon interrupt in Zaeed's loyalty mission causes you to give him a hug and talk about your feelings, instead of punching him right?

And the renegade way of getting a discount at the souvenir shop on the citadel is to threaten to blow the clerk's head off, instead of whining like a **** about classism.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...
I giggle at the incessant paragon = puppies and teddy bears, renegade = badass no-nonsense tough guy idiocy.


Cause that's the way it works. Renegades are the cool guys who don't look at explosions because they've don't got the time.

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XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.


That's why many people choose the renagon path, you became a badass, but make the "right" calls.

But I think that the pure renegade guy it's more likely to gain allies via-intimidation or so. You can force Quarians to join you by saying you'll sneeze on their ships if they don't join to your army. maybe even harbinger will run when the hardass shepard starts to bark a lot of curses and so. xD