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[tetrisblock4x1]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

I giggle at the incessant paragon = puppies and teddy bears, renegade = badass no-nonsense tough guy idiocy.

Save some for Bioware... they are the ones who write these stereotypes.

[thepiebaker]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I thought Renegades were the guys who do what they please and don't give a crap what happens.

Guess you are not a true Renegade....

this

and hey here is one renegade choice that has absolutely no room for having anything but a 100% positive impact on your ME3 game:

letting tali die in the suicide missionB)

[SirEtchwart]

ReconTeam wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
I giggle at the incessant paragon = puppies and teddy bears, renegade = badass no-nonsense tough guy idiocy.

Cause that's the way it works. Renegades are the cool guys who don't look at explosions because they've don't got the time.

...while Paragons spent the time the Renegades wasted adjusting their popped collars actually causing the explosion.








(just kidding )

[byne]

Merengues 1945 wrote...

XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.

That's why many people choose the renagon path, you became a badass, but make the "right" calls.

But I think that the pure renegade guy it's more likely to gain allies via-intimidation or so. You can force Quarians to join you by saying you'll sneeze on their ships if they don't join to your army. maybe even harbinger will run when the hardass shepard starts to bark a lot of curses and so. xD

But sadly, due to ME2's crappy charm/intimidate system, renagons/paragades get screwed over by not picking a side and sticking to it.

[Drake-Shepard]

S Atomeha wrote...

byne wrote...

Drake-Shepard wrote...

letting that asari commando sister live in samara's recruitment mission turned out to be a mistake, and killing her in cold blood is the right call
I have some hope
unless she comes back and helps you in me3. That will just take the ,,,

I dont see how killing her was the right call. Last I checked eye for an eye wasnt the way crimes were handled in modern societies.

Killing her is the safest route, yes.  However she still 'surrenered' and for that well she should have been arrested, or let go if disarmed at the extreme(which is what ended up happening). You can't execute criminals when they surrender, it is up to the courts to decide their fates.

sorry let me clarify,
By right call i didnt mean morally the right call

I meant it doesn't backfire. If you believe her 'i have never killed anyone' lie and choose the paragon route and let her go she runs away never to be found (atleast remainder of me2) and you find out she lied and are like 'doh!'

i could argue she could go kill again but thats not the point

If you choose not to beleive her based on evidence you collected you draw your gun and she gives you confirmation...and you find confirmation of her being the murderer later. And you are like oh...killing her was the right option.

Not like the garrus loyalty mission where killing sidonus was definately a bad call b'cos etc etc ect

And in response for your eye for an eye comment...i understand...but your basically judge dredd, judge, jury and executuiner (excuse the spelling), and some modern societies still kill murderers

[Moonshadow_Dark]

thepiebaker wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I thought Renegades were the guys who do what they please and don't give a crap what happens.

Guess you are not a true Renegade....

this

and hey here is one renegade choice that has absolutely no room for having anything but a 100% positive impact on your ME3 game:

letting tali die in the suicide missionB)

If she dies, who fixes the Normandy Engines?

[psychocandy]

byne wrote...

Drake-Shepard wrote...

letting that asari commando sister live in samara's recruitment mission turned out to be a mistake, and killing her in cold blood is the right call
I have some hope
unless she comes back and helps you in me3. That will just take the ,,,

I dont see how killing her was the right call. Last I checked eye for an eye wasnt the way crimes were handled in modern societies.

she doesnt surrender, she pleads innocence to save her tentacles when the 3 heavies who butchered her m8's enter her hidey hole, she does die with bravado tho

[Farbautisonn]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

thepiebaker wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I thought Renegades were the guys who do what they please and don't give a crap what happens.

Guess you are not a true Renegade....

this

and hey here is one renegade choice that has absolutely no room for having anything but a 100% positive impact on your ME3 game:

letting tali die in the suicide missionB)

If she dies, who fixes the Normandy Engines?

-The reason I rush to save the crew from the collectors is that if I am late there is noone left to take care of my friggen fish. I need my psychologist to do that.

[Dr Griner]

Farbautisonn wrote...

We are so used to the "white" that when we see gray we think its "black". Most people havent got a bastard clue how "black" the world can be.

That is so true, well said.

[byne]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

thepiebaker wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I thought Renegades were the guys who do what they please and don't give a crap what happens.

Guess you are not a true Renegade....

this

and hey here is one renegade choice that has absolutely no room for having anything but a 100% positive impact on your ME3 game:

letting tali die in the suicide missionB)

If she dies, who fixes the Normandy Engines?

-The reason I rush to save the crew from the collectors is that if I am late there is noone left to take care of my friggen fish. I need my psychologist to do that.

In theory, EDI should be able to feed the fish too, since you feed them by pushing a button that causes food to be released. I dont see why EDI cant just remotely activate the button.

Also, if you save your crew, who does the baby reaper get to eat? Fish arent the only creatures in need of feeding, you know.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Baby reaper gets to eat a Cain blast.

That sh*t is fortified to deliver all the energy a young reaper needs.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 24 février 2012 - 10:32 .

[Dr Griner]

thepiebaker wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

I thought Renegades were the guys who do what they please and don't give a crap what happens.

Guess you are not a true Renegade....

this

and hey here is one renegade choice that has absolutely no room for having anything but a 100% positive impact on your ME3 game:

letting tali die in the suicide missionB)

But, but ... we made out before the last mission. Ah well guess this is easier than breaking up.

[SirEtchwart]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Baby reaper gets to eat a Cain blast.

EXACTLY what I was going to say.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

They should, you're a bunch of douchebags!

I kid, I kid...

I really hope they don't screw up the import bonuses...

[AgitatedLemon]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

I giggle at the incessant paragon = puppies and teddy bears, renegade = badass no-nonsense tough guy idiocy.

Save some for Bioware... they are the ones who write these stereotypes.

That's why every single situation in-game that can be resolved via paragon/renegade choice (Or damn near every single one, only a small handful are exclusive to one another), are available to both moralities?

[Merengues 1945]

byne wrote...

Merengues 1945 wrote...

XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.

That's why many people choose the renagon path, you became a badass, but make the "right" calls.

But I think that the pure renegade guy it's more likely to gain allies via-intimidation or so. You can force Quarians to join you by saying you'll sneeze on their ships if they don't join to your army. maybe even harbinger will run when the hardass shepard starts to bark a lot of curses and so. xD

But sadly, due to ME2's crappy charm/intimidate system, renagons/paragades get screwed over by not picking a side and sticking to it.

I don't know, I always get to fill the renegade bar and sometimes half or even more of the paragon bar... just by following the renagon path and thinking the order of the missions in order to don't get caught with not enoug P/R points.

[Farbautisonn]

byne wrote...

In theory, EDI should be able to feed the fish too, since you feed them by pushing a button that causes food to be released. I dont see why EDI cant just remotely activate the button.

Also, if you save your crew, who does the baby reaper get to eat? Fish arent the only creatures in need of feeding, you know.

-It can its own fish. There are some in the citadel reservoirs.

[byne]

Merengues 1945 wrote...

byne wrote...

Merengues 1945 wrote...

XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.

That's why many people choose the renagon path, you became a badass, but make the "right" calls.

But I think that the pure renegade guy it's more likely to gain allies via-intimidation or so. You can force Quarians to join you by saying you'll sneeze on their ships if they don't join to your army. maybe even harbinger will run when the hardass shepard starts to bark a lot of curses and so. xD

But sadly, due to ME2's crappy charm/intimidate system, renagons/paragades get screwed over by not picking a side and sticking to it.

I don't know, I always get to fill the renegade bar and sometimes half or even more of the paragon bar... just by following the renagon path and thinking the order of the missions in order to don't get caught with not enoug P/R points.

I've had many cases where I had a full renegade bar and still wasnt renegade enough to intimidate. I dont really understand how the charm/intimidate thing calculates if you are paragon/renegade enough, and I dont think anyone else does either.

[thepiebaker]

byne wrote...

Merengues 1945 wrote...

byne wrote...

Merengues 1945 wrote...

XxXSarenXxX wrote...

It seems like every Renegade choice in ME1 negativly impacted ME2 and every paragon choice positivly effected ME2 its really kind of irritating, im hopeing they throw a few curve balls like the rachni or the reprogramed geth betray you or something, instead of constantly handing Snuggly carebear Shepards blue ribbons and no nonscense hardass shepards live grenades.

That's why many people choose the renagon path, you became a badass, but make the "right" calls.

But I think that the pure renegade guy it's more likely to gain allies via-intimidation or so. You can force Quarians to join you by saying you'll sneeze on their ships if they don't join to your army. maybe even harbinger will run when the hardass shepard starts to bark a lot of curses and so. xD

But sadly, due to ME2's crappy charm/intimidate system, renagons/paragades get screwed over by not picking a side and sticking to it.

I don't know, I always get to fill the renegade bar and sometimes half or even more of the paragon bar... just by following the renagon path and thinking the order of the missions in order to don't get caught with not enoug P/R points.

I've had many cases where I had a full renegade bar and still wasnt renegade enough to intimidate. I dont really understand how the charm/intimidate thing calculates if you are paragon/renegade enough, and I dont think anyone else does either.

simple math:

percentage of paragon or renegade points you have out of the maximum amount of points you can possibly have has to be greater than or equal to the percentage required to make the persuasion/intimidation choice

i can go in greater detail if you needB)

[CuddilyEvil93]

It's called karma. Act like an ass all the time and she'll bite you in yours.

[Farbautisonn]

CuddilyEvil93 wrote...

It's called karma. Act like an ass all the time and she'll bite you in yours.

-And yet strangely, somehow, most of the famous of politics, statebuilding and finance have been more or less rat bastards that died peacefully in their beds. Go figure.

[N00blet666]

I don't really care if I get screwed for being Renegade. As long as my actions have consequences I'll be happy.

[N00blet666]

Farbautisonn wrote...

CuddilyEvil93 wrote...

It's called karma. Act like an ass all the time and she'll bite you in yours.

-And yet strangely, somehow, most of the famous of politics, statebuilding and finance have been more or less rat bastards that died peacefully in their beds. Go figure.

I agree, most of the time being an ass and stepping over people gets you a lot more in this world than being a nive guy does. 

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Being a renegade means being a **** people usually don't respond well to ****s