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[Davidicus]

squee365 wrote...

Who needs manuals when you got shiny artbooks? oh. and trains.

He won't be able to figure out how to play the game without a manual, or he won't have anything to read while the game installs (though as previously suggested, BSN!)

[Guesswhotoo]

i dont care, i want a damn manual. i dont care what you think. no manual = sucks.

[LiquidLogic2020]

N00blet666 wrote...

All the crap I get in my CE will weigh my box down.

Im sure it's not all crap.

[Colintastic]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Likely not, the Kingdoms of Amular was the same.

In the box was the usual online pass, bonus stuff and the booklet that contains all the health warnings. No manual.

KOA was EA published too maybe it's a new policy.

KOA also had the "moves" section in the menu which was far more illustrative than any no video manual could be. Describing each atack with a couple sentences is far inferior to just showing me what it does. The game itself is not exactly what one would call complicated. Press each button once and you'll figure it out. Hell the first mission is a tutorial! 

[AxisEvolve]

Who cares.

[Femlob]

No manual, huh? That's disappointing.

On the bright side, it's one less thing to lose forever when I move.

[cachx]

You need a small book to teach you to press 'Space' ?
I admit loving flipping through the manuals of my old nes/snes games. But they serve little purpose now (specially the last few pages in blank, labeled "Notes", who the hell ever used that?) every bit of info is online or in a decent tutorial in the game itself.
If you want pretty pictures, buy an artbook.

[Guesswhotoo]

really id ont know what to do now, i am so pissed about this and the holster thing. right now i have 2 copies of this game pre ordered :the CE edition and the regular just to get all the damn extras(and thats a whole other story too i shouldnt have to buy 2 damn games to get all the cool stuff that everybody wants anyway- way to treat your customers like crap bioware)and i am so disappointed in what i have seen firsthand and what i have learned over the past few weeks that i think i may cancel my order. i really think bioware is done.

[Davidicus]

This guy HAS to be trolling. That, or I truly fear for the gaming community/humanity.

[Wodyme]

Let's see, this is Mass Effect 3. Not 1, not 2, but 3. If you don't know how to play Mass Effect by now, then sorry, it's too late for you.

[Thermetro]

So wait, you are complaining about the game manual?
Unbelievable honestly, the over dramatic cries I keep hearing these days from BSN.

A lot of the games that have come out in the past year have been cutting back on manuals, EA's games specifically, whilst I agree I loved the manuals, it isn't something to be upset about at all.

It saves videogame manufacturers money and saves costs for waste/using up resources when it isn't needed. Every game has a in game tutorial that does a much better job than any manual, and with the CODEX you won't miss out on any story information that could be written in a manual.

[FKA_Servo]

Guesswhotoo wrote...

really id ont know what to do now, i am so pissed about this and the holster thing. right now i have 2 copies of this game pre ordered :the CE edition and the regular just to get all the damn extras(and thats a whole other story too i shouldnt have to buy 2 damn games to get all the cool stuff that everybody wants anyway- way to treat your customers like crap bioware)and i am so disappointed in what i have seen firsthand and what i have learned over the past few weeks that i think i may cancel my order. i really think bioware is done.

I think you trollin' but I'll bite all the same.

What's in the standard game that isn't available to the CE?

[Guesswhotoo]

no actually i am not trolling. really - is everything just one damn giant troll for you? Is it that strange that I actually like Manuals? Is it that strange that I find it just plain disrespectful of game companies not only releasing on the first day half finished shoddy buggy mess games with the thinking that it doesnt matter cuz they can just patch it later and that customers wont care? you call it trolling when someone like me looks back to the past and misses when game companies actually respected the medium enough to put hard work into their games to make sure they worked and without six tons of gamebreaking bugs and even gave you a decent manual with it? Nowadays game companies want YOU to cry for them while they rip you off with 73 million loads of DLC that they most likely cut outta the game only to charge back to you while they cry foul over used game sales? (and in all reality- they make back all that money and then some by ripping you off with DLC so their used game argument is now moot anyway.) No i am no troll. i just miss when dev's used to care about making games. when they used to like playing games. and now i heard about a bioware employee who went on the record even saying she dont like playing games it makes me sick and yearn for the old days.

[FKA_Servo]

It's a ridiculous reason.

[Fiery Phoenix]

IIRC both Assassin's Creed II and Brotherhood had no manuals in them. It was an in-game manual. So meh.

[james1976]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Likely not, the Kingdoms of Amular was the same.

In the box was the usual online pass, bonus stuff and the booklet that contains all the health warnings. No manual.

KOA was EA published too maybe it's a new policy.

It is their new policy.  All manuals are now digital.  I think EA gets a tax write off or something for doing something green.

I'd rather have my paper manual.

Modifié par james1976, 24 février 2012 - 06:35 .

[Guesswhotoo]

think about it- game developers want us to cry for them all the time now and boo hoo hoo them all day long and what do we get out of it? I'll tell you what we get for it. We get to pay more money via Online passes, overcharged DLC, etc etc and we are even getting less than before now too. they are slowly taking away more and more stuff from us that used to be standard. We used to get manuals in our games. Slowly thats disappearing. Now we are lucky to get the infamous Assassins creed brotherhood folded piece of paper manual. We gotta pay twice to play games online now- once for xbox live gold, and then again for an online pass. we get crazy DRM that only allows us to only install X amount of times. face it we are getting less and less. slowly we are gonna lose the physical disc too and it will all be DD. And you think they will pass those savings on to us? HA! nope think again. wheres the cheaper price for all the savings on paper for not including a manual then? where is it cuz i dont see it- still $60.

[FKA_Servo]

I'm really not that broken up about no manuals and day one DLC.

[Yakko77]

The intro is basically a demo that walks you through the game play. I rarely read the manual. I just start playing and hit buttons to figure out what does what.

[hangmans tree]

Guesswhotoo wrote...

think about it- game developers want us to cry for them all the time now and boo hoo hoo them all day long and what do we get out of it? I'll tell you what we get for it. We get to pay more money via Online passes, overcharged DLC, etc etc and we are even getting less than before now too. they are slowly taking away more and more stuff from us that used to be standard. We used to get manuals in our games. Slowly thats disappearing. Now we are lucky to get the infamous Assassins creed brotherhood folded piece of paper manual. We gotta pay twice to play games online now- once for xbox live gold, and then again for an online pass. we get crazy DRM that only allows us to only install X amount of times. face it we are getting less and less. slowly we are gonna lose the physical disc too and it will all be DD. And you think they will pass those savings on to us? HA! nope think again. wheres the cheaper price for all the savings on paper for not including a manual then? where is it cuz i dont see it- still $60.

Buy The Witcher 2, I assure you, you wont find it dissapointing.
I agree on the account that the games they charge for give us less and less but still, the price goes up. I wont eventstart on t he subject wheras DIGITAL copy of ME3 (Origin) is more expensive than RETAIL copy from online store/market in my country <_<

And gamers stil will just 'bend over Junior'...

[Davidicus]

He's just upset at what he sees as a decline in overall quality and "bang for your buck" amongst games. It's not about the manual, guys.

[Chris Priestly]

The manual is included in game for all players for ease of use. This allows players to find the manual if they wish at any point that they need this.

I fail to see how this is a bad thing?

[Guesswhotoo]

one of my biggest fears is that game companies like bioware and others will actually listen to the forums and the small but vocal minority and that it will somehow influence their decisions regarding game development. i see lots of people claiming "Oh i dont care manuals suck anyway". well yeah you darn right they suck NOWADAYS! they used to be good. i like manuals they used to contain great information and background story and lore. it made the whole package that much more worth it.and i fear that bioware will read these forums and actually think "see? they don't like manuals anyway!" and that would be a big mistake cuz its only the small vocal minority that actually signs up for a forum account to actually talk here anyways and not representative of the much larger fanbase as a whole.And i am here to tell you I Like Manuals, I miss them, and I do not like the way the industry is headed lately and i am scared of where it might be in the next few years. /rant. whew.

[Techo Angel]

Its called making the Manual part of the Game Data and reading it IN the Game...

I know it is kinda sad since no long able to go read the manual on the John any more >.>

[Guesswhotoo]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The manual is included in game for all players for ease of use. This allows players to find the manual if they wish at any point that they need this.

I fail to see how this is a bad thing?

^for everything i have said thus far.

Modifié par Guesswhotoo, 24 février 2012 - 06:46 .