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[Spectre-61]

I remember the days when manuals were so big that you can flatten hamster.
With the todays manuals you can't even hit a fly.

With some exceptions, of course.

[blueruin]

Wait, I don't care about the manual. But you can't holster weapons?

[Mahrac]

There's no manuel? preorder cancele... WHAT AM I SAYING!?!

[SealKudos]

I remember some games having books - honest to God tree-killing paperbacks - as their manuals. Made me shed gamer tears of awesome joy as I ripped through that while waiting for the installation to complete. Hell, I could reach over and grab one right now.

With today's generation of games, I'll be lucky to get a flimsy sheet that probably won't even be held down well because it's too thin, and it'll just flop around until I get tired of it and rip it out. Oh yeah, and some "We made this out of recycled-paper so you can feel good about killing the environment!" slips as well, which advertise totally irrelevant and unrelated products, usually games by the same publisher. Can't forget those nuggets of greatness.

[DiebytheSword]

Yeah, steam kind of killed the instruction booklet a million years ago. But what the hell, no holstering! Pre-cancellation of pre-order cancelled!

[Mendelevosa]

Wow. This complaint is almost as bad as that other complaint about action mode being above RPG mode on the menu screen. We aren't in the 20th century anymore. We are within the early digital age. One day, digital sources such as books, manuals, newspapers, ect., will completely replace many paper sources. GET WITH THE PROGRAM OP!!!

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 24 février 2012 - 10:15 .

[kongenial]

Manual? - Too expensive. Prolonged support? - Too expensive.

If it continues at this rate you will not be able to buy a physical copy rather than an empty box with just a code in it to be activated and downloaded through various tools. Gotta love it. 

[WizenSlinky0]

Manuals have been going out the door slowly over time anyway. This is nothing new.

Most manuals these days are a few pages telling you the buttons and then referring you to a website or ingame manual.

[BounceDK]

Bioware ran out of memory so no manual (or at least, that's what they want you to believe).

Modifié par BounceDK, 24 février 2012 - 10:21 .

[Rudy Lis]

kongenial wrote...

Manual? - Too expensive. Prolonged support? - Too expensive.

If it continues at this rate you will not be able to buy a physical copy rather than an empty box with just a code in it to be activated and downloaded through various tools. Gotta love it. 

Box? Box too expensive. Just code.

[AtreiyaN7]

Maybe you've completely missed out on the fact that most games don't include manuals in the boxes anymore. Even if you get manuals, they're likely to be extremely dinky ones. Your idiotic complaint is also rendered moot by the fact that there's usually a PDF manual or something of that sort included on the disc. Learn to use Adobe Reader?

P.S. Isn't this guy just trolling? He can't be serious.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 24 février 2012 - 10:45 .

[Guesswhotoo]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Maybe you've completely missed out on the fact that most games don't include manuals in the boxes anymore. Even if you get manuals, they're likely to be extremely dinky ones. Your idiotic complaint is also rendered moot by the fact that there's usually a PDF manual or something of that sort included on the disc. Learn to use Adobe Reader?

P.S. Isn't this guy just trolling? He can't be serious.

No, you see the things is, you are far too unintelligent to even begin to make any kind of comment in this thread so just stop now. If you can't even read any of the points I made earlier then you have no right to even comment on my complaints simply for the fact that you do not even know why this bothers myself and the MANY others in this very thread. So your comment about PDF manuals and all that is now "moot".

[mcneil_1]

If its anything like the Syndicate manual, it is in the game menu (and the pamphlet that comes with it has a quite few bits of outdated info on it as well), and the game manual that you can get from origin is just jpeg health warnings in 12 or so different languages (but no actual proper pdf game manual anywhere).

But if the game doesnt come with a hardcopy of the manual why dont they lower the price by a few bucks (since I believe that was one of the major factors involved with the game price )

Modifié par mcneil_1, 24 février 2012 - 11:00 .

[kongenial]

Rudy Lis wrote...

kongenial wrote...

Manual? - Too expensive. Prolonged support? - Too expensive.

If it continues at this rate you will not be able to buy a physical copy rather than an empty box with just a code in it to be activated and downloaded through various tools. Gotta love it. 

Box? Box too expensive. Just code.

An even better idea. Codes on scratch cards. If your lucky enough you will have won a code for the game 

[nickkcin11]

Are people seriously complaining over the lack of a manual? This better be a joke. Unless you've never played a game before, the tutorials nowadays are so dumbly in-depth that they (manuals) have been rendered useless. When tutorials tell you how to look around... you know that even the stupidest, youngest children could play the game.

No holstering and Action mode being above the default RPG is a problem. If someone assumes that the way the game is intended to play is first (the natural assumption) and clicks too fast, they just started the worst game ever. Mass Effect without the story and choices. The names need to be a bit more leading.

And for people saying "If they want to save money by eliminating the manual, shouldn't the game price go down?"
No and no. If they are trying to save money, wouldn't it be extremely counter-productive to lower the game price too? Then there would have been no reason to get rid of the manual. And it only saves the publisher money since they are making millions of these games. It would only save the consumer a fraction of a dollar.

Modifié par nickkcin11, 24 février 2012 - 11:09 .

[Rudy Lis]

kongenial wrote...

An even better idea. Codes on scratch cards. If your lucky enough you will have won a code for the game 

And if you not lucky, you got 60 buckazoid worth almost complete game, only without optional mandatory story-wise costume pack...

nickkcin11 wrote...

Are people seriously complaining over the lack of a manual?

Manuals could be different. I still remember Fallout 1 manual, IMHO very "immersive".
And you can put them in PDF form and save the trees, bees, snales, whales for future annihilation hunt cuisine research program.

[United_Strafes]

Oh great so on top of the other moronic topics, there is also this one now.

[AlanC9]

Rudy Lis wrote...

kongenial wrote...

Manual? - Too expensive. Prolonged support? - Too expensive.

If it continues at this rate you will not be able to buy a physical copy rather than an empty box with just a code in it to be activated and downloaded through various tools. Gotta love it. 

Box? Box too expensive. Just code.

Sure. The future of the industry is direct download.

And eventually, no download. Just a thin client with the game off in the cloud somewhere. Or rather, off in the cloud nowhere.

[SovereignWillReturn]

Ea said no more manuals in their games every since early 2011 or something like that.

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[AlanC9]

Guesswhotoo wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Maybe you've completely missed out on the fact that most games don't include manuals in the boxes anymore. Even if you get manuals, they're likely to be extremely dinky ones. Your idiotic complaint is also rendered moot by the fact that there's usually a PDF manual or something of that sort included on the disc. Learn to use Adobe Reader?

P.S. Isn't this guy just trolling? He can't be serious.

No, you see the things is, you are far too unintelligent to even begin to make any kind of comment in this thread so just stop now. If you can't even read any of the points I made earlier then you have no right to even comment on my complaints simply for the fact that you do not even know why this bothers myself and the MANY others in this very thread. So your comment about PDF manuals and all that is now "moot".

Combining arrogance and cluelessness is no way to go through life, kid.

[AtreiyaN7]

Guesswhotoo wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Maybe you've completely missed out on the fact that most games don't include manuals in the boxes anymore. Even if you get manuals, they're likely to be extremely dinky ones. Your idiotic complaint is also rendered moot by the fact that there's usually a PDF manual or something of that sort included on the disc. Learn to use Adobe Reader?

P.S. Isn't this guy just trolling? He can't be serious.

No, you see the things is, you are far too unintelligent to even begin to make any kind of comment in this thread so just stop now. If you can't even read any of the points I made earlier then you have no right to even comment on my complaints simply for the fact that you do not even know why this bothers myself and the MANY others in this very thread. So your comment about PDF manuals and all that is now "moot".

I read your original post, which I found so inane that I wasn't going to bother with anything else you wrote. Here, let me quote it:

Guesswhotoo wrote...

why else would there be a freakin' Manual tab in the game? God bioware, what the hell happened to you?this is just trash. I happen to love manuals, especially in my RPG's.

I love manuals too, having actually played computer games for a long, long time. Yet I'm not going around ranting and trying to single BW out for including an in-game manual. What was clear to me from your initial post is that you're already ticked off at them about the holstering issue (vis-a-vis your thread title) and that you're portraying BW's failure to include a manual heavy enough to kill someone with as some sort of additional evidence of their supposed decline. Thus, I consider your first post to be idiotic and haven't changed my position on that (never mind your bad typing - although you at least seem to have improved while trying to to insult my intelligence).

Since you made such a bad first impression with that post, I have zero interest in reading anything else you wrote after the first page (besides that sad attempt to insult me that is) because, as I pointed out, manuals are often included as PDFs. You get the same information that you otherwise would if you had it on paper. Furthermore, the olden days when we got tons of lore and details in our extremely large manuals are gone forever. It's not just BW, it's everyone. Skyrim didn't exactly have a scintillating lore-filled manual suffused with wonder and mystery. it was approximately 20 pages with only the game mechanics detailed. So, are you going to go the Bethesda forums and moan about how pathetic their manuals are? I might at least take you seriously if you're equal-opportunity when it comes to b----ing about everyone's manuals.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 24 février 2012 - 11:28 .

[TheJiveDJ]

Plus it saves trees, is more readily accessible, and reduces their
Manufacturing costs. Win/win for both company and consumer in my
Books.

[Rudy Lis]

AlanC9 wrote...

Sure. The future of the industry is direct download.

And eventually, no download. Just a thin client with the game off in the cloud somewhere. Or rather, off in the cloud nowhere.

I agree. but I guess little humour never hurts.

[AlanC9]

Honestly, I prefer having the lore presented in-game if you can do it. Sure, Dragon Age could have had a manual as big as an Ultima, but I prefer game the way it is.

[AlanC9]

Rudy Lis wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Sure. The future of the industry is direct download.

And eventually, no download. Just a thin client with the game off in the cloud somewhere. Or rather, off in the cloud nowhere.

I agree. but I guess little humour never hurts.

Actually, boxes would be nice, even if there's nothing in them. Much more fun to find a box under the Christmas tree than a card in your stocking.

Modifié par AlanC9, 24 février 2012 - 11:24 .