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[gorgogorn]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I won't be canceling my pre-order.

For those who want to boycott, boycott the DLC (if that's your issue). If people don't buy the DLC, but buy the game, it demonstrates to the marketing teams and publisher that people do support the ME games, but do not support the practice of day 1 DLC handled in such a manner. It sends a clearer message.

This!

[FlashedMyDrive]

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

No, most people won't. People have no self-control. Even when games are $100 with ten, $50 DLC packs just to enjoy the full game, people will still happily buy it. What can you expect from idiots?

Choice, my friend...isn't it wonderful

People love supporting bad business practices.

Couldnt give a ****, as long as I can afford it and I enjoy myself

That's good. If I was EA, I would raise the price of the Standard edition of Mass Effect by 15 bucks, because clearly people like you would buy it.

I'd sure they could get away with 20 bucks too. Maybe even 30. Possibly even make origin require a monthy fee! I'm sure you could afford it and would still enjoy yourself.

Im a console gamer, but yes you're right, as long as they didnt make it so much I couldnt afford it, I will buy the games I like, with my money, which I earn.

And people like you are ruining the world. Never striving for things to change, only excepting things as they are with a smile on their face. My god, kids these days are ******.

Modifié par FlashedMyDrive, 24 février 2012 - 07:41 .

[packardbell]

 I won't be boycotting anything, just won't be paying for the DLC.

[mopotter]

Hatire wrote...

The Enforcer OS wrote...

Personally, No, I intend to buy the game, and any Single player DLC.

I will not be buying any MP DLC or playing the mode until local support is added. Otherwise I'll buy everything I can.

Since I started in the Shepard Trilogy I'll see it through, but I imagine this will be the last Bioware game I purchase, unfortunately.

Pretty much this. I'm too invested in my Shepard to say no despite how much this practice is downright wrong IMO. I feel quite sad, since I used to love BioWare, but this is probably the end of my relationship with them as a consumer.

Me too.  But I'm hoping that there will be parts of the game I enjoy, as well as some I may dislike, and that the enjoyment outweighs the dislike so I'll decide about future games after I see how this ends, and how the story plays out.    I will not purchase any DLC that involves mp becuase I'm not interested in that, but other DLC - maybe depending on what it is.

[Exia001]

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

No, most people won't. People have no self-control. Even when games are $100 with ten, $50 DLC packs just to enjoy the full game, people will still happily buy it. What can you expect from idiots?

Choice, my friend...isn't it wonderful

People love supporting bad business practices.

Couldnt give a ****, as long as I can afford it and I enjoy myself

That's good. If I was EA, I would raise the price of the Standard edition of Mass Effect by 15 bucks, because clearly people like you would buy it.

I'd sure they could get away with 20 bucks too. Maybe even 30. Possibly even make origin require a monthy fee! I'm sure you could afford it and would still enjoy yourself.

Im a console gamer, but yes you're right, as long as they didnt make it so much I couldnt afford it, I will buy the games I like, with my money, which I earn.

And people like you are ruining the world. Never striving for things to change, only excepting things as they are with a smile on their face. My god, kids these days are ******.

Im 22

And dont talk about people as if you know them, I want the world to change, but im more focused on, helping the disabled, the elderly, the sick. you know, big things...Video games, small thing

[Candidate 88766]

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

No, most people won't. People have no self-control. Even when games are $100 with ten, $50 DLC packs just to enjoy the full game, people will still happily buy it. What can you expect from idiots?

Choice, my friend...isn't it wonderful

People love supporting bad business practices.

Couldnt give a ****, as long as I can afford it and I enjoy myself

That's good. If I was EA, I would raise the price of the Standard edition of Mass Effect by 15 bucks, because clearly people like you would buy it.

I'd sure they could get away with 20 bucks too. Maybe even 30. Possibly even make origin require a monthy fee! I'm sure you could afford it and would still enjoy yourself.

Im a console gamer, but yes you're right, as long as they didnt make it so much I couldnt afford it, I will buy the games I like, with my money, which I earn.

And people like you are ruining the world. Never striving for things to change, only excepting things as they are with a smile on their face. My god, kids these days are ******.

Or maybe its because, in the grand scheme of things, games getting a little more expensive isn't all that important.

Prices rise over time. As gamers demand games with better graphics and physics and AI, they're going to take more time and money to make. Combine that with inflation, and suddenly an addition to ME3 costing £8 isn't so bad, especially seeing as you can buy the game for like £35.

If you really think things like day 1 DLC are 'ruining the world', you need to get some perspective. For starters, you have access to the internet and either a console or PC capable of playing ME3. Hardly a ruined world.

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 24 février 2012 - 07:46 .

[Dragoonlordz]

gorgogorn wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I won't be canceling my pre-order.

For those who want to boycott, boycott the DLC (if that's your issue). If people don't buy the DLC, but buy the game, it demonstrates to the marketing teams and publisher that people do support the ME games, but do not support the practice of day 1 DLC handled in such a manner. It sends a clearer message.

This!

That rational approach on BSN tends to bounce off people like rubber vs glue.

I have no personal intention of boycotting anything as this does not offend me in the slightest, I consider it their right to distribute their products how they wish, people have the right to choose to accept and buy the product on offer or not. I hate entitlement and principle of "they owe us", I detest that approach in fact. 

The product on offer is the complete product, the only factual way it would not be complete is if physically impossible to reach the end without something or glitch in coding. This is not the case here. A persons enjoyment does not actually in fact define a complete or incomplete product.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 24 février 2012 - 07:48 .

[Hell OX77]

Justicar wrote...

No. I'll be gladly playing with Prothy on my Collectors Edition on the day of launch.

they done this before so why **** now? and im with justicar here. 

[Exia001]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

FlashedMyDrive wrote...

No, most people won't. People have no self-control. Even when games are $100 with ten, $50 DLC packs just to enjoy the full game, people will still happily buy it. What can you expect from idiots?

Choice, my friend...isn't it wonderful

People love supporting bad business practices.

Couldnt give a ****, as long as I can afford it and I enjoy myself

That's good. If I was EA, I would raise the price of the Standard edition of Mass Effect by 15 bucks, because clearly people like you would buy it.

I'd sure they could get away with 20 bucks too. Maybe even 30. Possibly even make origin require a monthy fee! I'm sure you could afford it and would still enjoy yourself.

Im a console gamer, but yes you're right, as long as they didnt make it so much I couldnt afford it, I will buy the games I like, with my money, which I earn.

And people like you are ruining the world. Never striving for things to change, only excepting things as they are with a smile on their face. My god, kids these days are ******.

Or maybe its because, in the grand scheme of things, games getting a little more expensive isn't all that important.

Prices rise over time. As gamers demand games with better graphics and physics and AI, they're going to take more time and money to make. Combine that with inflation, and suddenly an addition to ME3 costing £8 isn't so bad, especially seeing as you can buy the game for like £35.

If you really think things like day 1 DLC are 'ruining the world', you need to get some perspective. For starters, you have access to the internet and either a console or PC capable of playing ME3. Hardly a ruined world.

You put that much more elequently than I could, cheers

[nevar00]

I will. Partly because I do want to see the trilogy to the end, and partly because I payed over the Best Buy website with a prepaid gift card that I don't even think I have anymore, so getting a refund would be a real pain, if not impossible.

However I do not think for one moment that the Bioware team truly believed a living Prothean was insignificant enough on the overall Mass Effect universe to warrant its position as DLC. Therefore I can only see this as a significant oversight (which I have a hard time believing) or was planned as a slimy business plan a long time ago - which is more likely the case given how long ago we could preorder the product - and will therefore not be buying another Bioware product again.

[TheStoner]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

gorgogorn wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I won't be canceling my pre-order.

For those who want to boycott, boycott the DLC (if that's your issue). If people don't buy the DLC, but buy the game, it demonstrates to the marketing teams and publisher that people do support the ME games, but do not support the practice of day 1 DLC handled in such a manner. It sends a clearer message.

This!

That rational approach on BSN tends to bounce off people like rubber vs glue.

I have no personal intention of boycotting anything as this does not offend me in the slightest, I consider it their right to distribute their products how they wish, people have the right to choose to accept and buy the product on offer or not. I hate entitlement and principle of "they owe us", I detest that approach in fact. 

The product on offer is the complete product, the only factual way it would not be complete is if physically impossible to reach the end without something or glitch in coding. This is not the case here.

Do you even know what entitlement is? Someone who actually thought they were entitled to the dlc they would literally demand the dlc. Not complain not try to boycott but demand. An entitlement is something people try to get laws passed to obtain this is nothing like that.

[Soundsystem]

Not boycotting. I have my CE nearly paid off and I can't wait to start playing!

[nevar00]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I won't be canceling my pre-order.

For those who want to boycott, boycott the DLC (if that's your issue). If people don't buy the DLC, but buy the game, it demonstrates to the marketing teams and publisher that people do support the ME games, but do not support the practice of day 1 DLC handled in such a manner. It sends a clearer message.

Except that isn't the entire issue.

A lot of people feel that we are getting an incomplete game.  The Protheans were built up to be a huge part of the lore of the game.  Finding a living one should have been a huge part of the series.  Instead it was brushed off as DLC.  

[Anaraky]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Jmalk wrote...

I really liked Mass Effect 2 however I will probably not buy ME3 before some time or get it for free.

And you would become a hypocrite if do the last thing you imply.

If you boycott something on principle then just stick with it by not buying or playing an illegal "copy", that principle if resort to theft of a "copy" becomes null and void if break an even bigger principle of respecting the hard work and effort of the developers put in hours and dedication that took to create the product.

Now I assume you respect the team who sat down for years making the product itself and should have principle towards not pissing all over the effort and dedication they have endured in creating it. If not then you would be the kind of fan they could do without in first place.  

No, if you boycott something due to decisions regarding distribution, DLC, pricing and so forth you aren't a hypocrite if you play an illegal copy. If you are boycotting the game because of content in the game I would agree, but that isn't the case. As long as Bioware or EA doesn't profit from you playing you are in the clear.

Also if the developers aren't respecting me as a customer why should I respect them? I've been buying Bioware games a long time (BG2, NWN1+2+Expansion, Jade Empire, KotOR1&2 etc) and the difference back then compared to now when it comes to respect is huge. In none of the mentioned games did they pull a day one DLC or something equally moneygrubbing. Now it is the norm, not to mention releasing rushed games and refraining to patch stuff that has a relatively large negative impact. So quite frankly, **** Bioware. I'd rather give money to game developers that aren't strongarming their fanbase, the group of people making it possible for them to make a living making games, into paying more for less.

Careful there we arn't allowed to discuss that.

You seem like a nice person and I appreciate you taking time out of your life to warn me. But quite honestly, what is the worst they can do? Ban me? Delete the content on my account? Let them.

[AllThatJazz]

I have some issues with dlc in general (not just EA, and not just day 1 dlc) - namely that dlc isn't anywhere near as good in terms of value for money as the more traditional expansion packs. You end up paying more for less, which is irksome. That said, I don't feel strongly enough to boycott ME3 (I want to play this story out), and I'll make decisions about dlc as and when it's announced. Same goes for future bioware titles - just because they often make games I enjoy doesn't mean I'm a guaranteed customer.

Also, to anyone who says they're going to 'boycott' the game, and then in the next breath says they're going to pirate it - that's not boycotting, that's stealing; attempting to attach some kind of principled stand to that is futile. If you boycott the game, you don't play it. Period.

[Zkyire]

Nubian Princess wrote...

I mean really Is anyone seriously going to deprive themself of some entertainment over something as petty as arguably poor videogame marketing?

I'm just curious as to weather anyone plans on it.

BTW Pre-Order Cancled:p

While whatever few people boycotting it are boycotting; I'll be happily playing my CE ME3.

[mopotter]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

No. I still plan to buy the game, because the team behind it is ( presumably ) mostly the same who created the other two games, which I loved. If I'm disappointed, well, I won't go on wondering whether I would've liked it or not. But it will likely be the last Bioware title I buy. Not interested in DA anymore or how they plan to milk the ME series.

^ This i rather they end the ME franchise with 3 and make a new IP as i don't intend to buy anything related to ME after i get all the ME3 dlc and as for DA i also don't care for it anymore either DA2 ruined it for me and i couldn't care less what happens to that IP anymore it can crash and burn for all i care.

Aye and Star Wars The Old Republic is frankly boring. Bioware needs to step their game up. Studios like Arena Net, CDProjekt and Obsidian do what they do better

I stopped paying attention to anything related to TOR once the words "MMO" was muttered.

I play TOR by myself.  Don't like MMO's.  So far I'm having fun and enjoy the stories.  i just have to level up a bit higher before doing some of the fights, but I usually have to do that in most games I play.   

[Namevah]

Not boycotting. Never planned on boycotting.

nevar00 wrote...
I do not think for one moment that the Bioware team truly believed a living Prothean was insignificant enough on the overall Mass Effect universe to warrant its position as DLC.

Agreed in that I'm sure the BioWare team believed that a Prothean squad member would be a really cool thing to offer as DLC, much more so than Zaeed or Sabastion.

[Dragoonlordz]

TheStoner wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

gorgogorn wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I won't be canceling my pre-order.

For those who want to boycott, boycott the DLC (if that's your issue). If people don't buy the DLC, but buy the game, it demonstrates to the marketing teams and publisher that people do support the ME games, but do not support the practice of day 1 DLC handled in such a manner. It sends a clearer message.

This!

That rational approach on BSN tends to bounce off people like rubber vs glue.

I have no personal intention of boycotting anything as this does not offend me in the slightest, I consider it their right to distribute their products how they wish, people have the right to choose to accept and buy the product on offer or not. I hate entitlement and principle of "they owe us", I detest that approach in fact. 

The product on offer is the complete product, the only factual way it would not be complete is if physically impossible to reach the end without something or glitch in coding. This is not the case here.

Do you even know what entitlement is? Someone who actually thought they were entitled to the dlc they would literally demand the dlc. Not complain not try to boycott but demand. An entitlement is something people try to get laws passed to obtain this is nothing like that.

And if I was talking about something other than a video game or something where you did not already have free choice you may have a point. You are not entitled to all or any additional content they create just because you want it. You may desire to have it, of get less enjoyment without it, leave feedback or state your preference but not they are not wrong to reject supplying it with one of the products offered or choosing to supply it via different means even not supply it at all. In this case entitlement is is demanding that they are wrong to not supply you with it for free with all their products because you do not wish to spend any more money or your personal preference is a belief would improve enjoyment in the game. The game itself is already complete, the content is not essential and enjoyment is subjective and personal.

[mrbauxjangles]

yup i am and for me i am not depriving myself of entertainment because if i dont get mass effect ill just biy some indie games on steam or something

[Almostfaceman]

AgentWhale wrote...

I won't be buying it. I don't know if that constitutes a boycott.

Seems a lot of you don;t care about these issues, and this will affect me, because if you guys keep spending money on all this **** gaming will get more and more expensive, with more and more nickel and dime tactics by EA;s marketeers.

*sigh*

I feel so helpless.

Video game melodrama, will you survive it? 

I'm buying the DLC and I'm not boycotting anything.