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[Nastrod]

When the CE was announced in june of 2011 it was said to have a extra mission and character so I really do not understand why people are complaining now about it.

[Chuvvy]

nevermind

Modifié par Slidell505, 24 février 2012 - 08:37 .

[Chuvvy]

Nastrod wrote...

When the CE was announced in june of 2011 it was said to have a extra mission and character so I really do not understand why people are complaining now about it.

Allot of people assumed that it was apart of EAs "project ten dollar" not that it would be cut out of every version of the game except the CE.

[BigBody26]

I won't be canceling my collectors edition. I am too excited to see how this ends with the choices I've made. I am concerned about the DLC and what possible story they can tell to explain a 50,000 year old Prothean that will be believable in the ME universe. I fear adding a living Prothean adds the possibility of discrediting much of the universes history. However, I fully intend to play the DLC and give it a fair shot. I am not bashing the Dlc at all. Just expressing concerns.

[loungeshep]

Heeeeeelllllll no, I"m going to sit and enjoy my ME3 CE, and all the DLC that comes out for it.

[JShepard1992]

No I'm gonna enjoy playing my Collectors Edition along with the Prothean squad mate

[mopotter]

IBPROFEN wrote...

The only DLC I had a problem with was the AP packs,one that tick me off was the one with garrus why do I have to pay to fix his armor. IMO that was a waste of money period, but ppl gobbled them up.
I agree that DLC is and should be always optional meaning it isn't needed to complete the game itself.
As for CO-OP in ME3 its going to have DLC know EA it will be 3 to 5 map packs for 15.99 as most multiplayers are now days. So I will not be buying them either(haven't on my FPS games). Its just a waste.
Why not sell a mod tool set for the games instead and let the community mod the games for free it worked very well in early COD and Novalogic games. the example that fits here would be VooDoo Medic(COD/UO) that how the zombies got put in later games by devs.

The DLC with the AP pack was one I liked.  i don't buy all DLC, i do like the options to do so.    I'll never buy DLC that has co-op, mmo options, but I have no problem with people who do.   So far the DLC they have offered in other games has worked out fine for me.  I pick the ones I want, leave the rest.  Same with Fall Out and Elder Scrolls.   

A Mod tool would be a nice addition to DLC.

[NegativelyChrgd]

Yeah I'll still get it, get all the dlc...But it's my last Bioware/EA game more than likely.

[monrapias]

People are being raped and killed, and kids starving? Screw that! I'm not getting what I want!!!! (this is how I see the reaction from alot of people here being)

anyway, I have already bought the game, well payed for it anyway, actually payed for two copies. both collectors edition.

[nevar00]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I won't be canceling my pre-order.

For those who want to boycott, boycott the DLC (if that's your issue). If people don't buy the DLC, but buy the game, it demonstrates to the marketing teams and publisher that people do support the ME games, but do not support the practice of day 1 DLC handled in such a manner. It sends a clearer message.

Except that isn't the entire issue.

A lot of people feel that we are getting an incomplete game.  The Protheans were built up to be a huge part of the lore of the game.  Finding a living one should have been a huge part of the series.  Instead it was brushed off as DLC.  

My problem with people using that phrase is that your not getting an incomplete game, You may get a game that due to factors such as this lowers your enjoyment of it and would have increased enjoyment if present but it is still a complete game. Yes it is mere semantics but it is an extreme case of implication by using that term rather than finding another more appropriate phrase or word which is more inline with how it really is.  

Except it isn't always that easy.  There are a LOT of things that can be removed from Mass Effect, leaving the skeleton of just the single most important characters and missions that revolve around stopping the Reapers.  The Human/Batarian and Quarian/Geth conflicts, the Council, every squadmate from ME2... just because those can be missing doesn't mean we aren't getting the complete game still.

Take Star Wars for example.  You could still have the very basic rebels vs empire story without Han Solo and Darth Vader.  That doesn't mean you aren't still missing two massive pieces of the series. 

The Protheans in the first two games were built up to be extremely important.  As I said finding a living one should be as big if not bigger than Legion in ME 2.  Either the Bioware staff really screwed up, or they tried screwing us (and have succeeded for the most part as I'm still getting the CE despite how I feel about it).

Had the Prothean been in the game or downloadable to all from the start and had generic human male marine companion #3 Vega been the Day 1 DLC, there would have been almost no backlash.

You are getting a complete game, a complete game is one that has been produced and works as intended.

Unfortunately there would still be a backlash as this is BSN after all. The content the Prothean provides as far as lore and aspects might cover are in the game, this was hinted at from Jennifer @ Bioware. Your moaning about having him tag along with you as a squad mate and interacting with the character rather than the lore and exposition he provides. Once again...

Possible Spoiler Content 

>Random Guy (of little importance) There's a theory going around that whatever you could've learned from this Prothean is already part of the core game, you don't need the DLC to get that content. What you do need this DLC for is to bring him along for the ride.
I'm inclined to believe this, to be honest. But we won't know for certain until the game comes out.

>Jessica (Bioware) No spoilers from me, but you may be on the right train of thought with that

I do not consider it a complete game if something of such importance (once again, it doesn't need to impact the main plot just to be important necessarily) was left out solely for DLC.

However if the Prothean IS in the game, I will take back what I said.  Those folks who read the leaked script, though, have said this was not the case.

[nevar00]

Daywalker315 wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I won't be canceling my pre-order.

For those who want to boycott, boycott the DLC (if that's your issue). If people don't buy the DLC, but buy the game, it demonstrates to the marketing teams and publisher that people do support the ME games, but do not support the practice of day 1 DLC handled in such a manner. It sends a clearer message.

Except that isn't the entire issue.

A lot of people feel that we are getting an incomplete game.  The Protheans were built up to be a huge part of the lore of the game.  Finding a living one should have been a huge part of the series.  Instead it was brushed off as DLC.  

My problem with people using that phrase is that your not getting an incomplete game, You may get a game that due to factors such as this lowers your enjoyment of it and would have increased enjoyment if present but it is still a complete game. Yes it is mere semantics but it is an extreme case of implication by using that term rather than finding another more appropriate phrase or word which is more inline with how it really is.  

Except it isn't always that easy.  There are a LOT of things that can be removed from Mass Effect, leaving the skeleton of just the single most important characters and missions that revolve around stopping the Reapers.  The Human/Batarian and Quarian/Geth conflicts, the Council, every squadmate from ME2... just because those can be missing doesn't mean we aren't getting the complete game still.

Take Star Wars for example.  You could still have the very basic rebels vs empire story without Han Solo and Darth Vader.  That doesn't mean you aren't still missing two massive pieces of the series. 

The Protheans in the first two games were built up to be extremely important.  As I said finding a living one should be as big if not bigger than Legion in ME 2.  Either the Bioware staff really screwed up, or they tried screwing us (and have succeeded for the most part as I'm still getting the CE despite how I feel about it).

Had the Prothean been in the game or downloadable to all from the start and had generic human male marine companion #3 Vega been the Day 1 DLC, there would have been almost no backlash.

Correct, there wouldn't have been much backlash. But that was never their plan. Personally, I'm grateful I got such a cool addition to my collector's edition copy. I feel appreciated as a customer for supporting them.

However, just because you feel like a single Prothean will be important doesn't make it so. ME3 is a story about taking down the Reapers. One single Prothean will not play an active role in this. His people already got their asses kicked 50,000 years ago. One of them isn't going to win the war. If it's important to YOU to have him to learn a little more about the Protheans with his crazy African voice, you're more than welcome to buy it and play it. Without it, however, your ability to kick Reaper ass (or let them kick yours) won't change one bit.

I direct you to this most recent tweet from Casey Hudson:
"The Prothean DLC character is really cool, but not at all critical to the main story. #ME3 centers on the Reapers, not the Protheans."

And once again i bring up Han Solo.  A character who, while not imortant to the main plot of the Star Wars movies, is nevertheless considered important.  Now what if he had been left out of Return of the Jedi: he plays almost no important role there, especially concerning the final confrontation between Luke and Vader/Emperor.  Sure we miss out on Jabba and Bobba and the first half hour of the movie as well as a bunch of Ewok scenes, but eh so what?  It had nothing to do with the main storyline.  All his scenes could've just been thrown in as deleted scenes.

[EmeraldJunkie]

No, I won't be boycotting
I do not apporve of what EA and Bioware have done, but I will not be boycotting. I won't be buying on day one, either. I'll wait for a few months, then buy the CE for half price.
Trust me, those things go down fast. I remember the Halo Reach special edition went from £150 to £50 in a few months. Thats a 2/3 price drop.

[Murdario]

i will not pay for any dlc that is not included with my collectors edition, just like i do with every other game also. i will buy full expansions like da:awakening however.

[Dragoonlordz]

nevar00 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You are getting a complete game, a complete game is one that has been produced and works as intended.

Unfortunately there would still be a backlash as this is BSN after all. The content the Prothean provides as far as lore and aspects might cover are in the game, this was hinted at from Jennifer @ Bioware. Your moaning about having him tag along with you as a squad mate and interacting with the character rather than the lore and exposition he provides. Once again...

Possible Spoiler Content 

>Random Guy (of little importance) There's a theory going around that whatever you could've learned from this Prothean is already part of the core game, you don't need the DLC to get that content. What you do need this DLC for is to bring him along for the ride.
I'm inclined to believe this, to be honest. But we won't know for certain until the game comes out.

>Jessica (Bioware) No spoilers from me, but you may be on the right train of thought with that

I do not consider it a complete game if something of such importance (once again, it doesn't need to impact the main plot just to be important necessarily) was left out solely for DLC.

However if the Prothean IS in the game, I will take back what I said.  Those folks who read the leaked script, though, have said this was not the case.

I never said he will be in the SE variation of the game, in fact I said the opposite. Bioware in quote provided you with also never said "the character" is in the game. They implied the context and exposition which he offers even if not present as "part of your squad" is possibly in the game.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 24 février 2012 - 08:57 .

[Matt251287]

No.

I don't think i want 'From Ashes' though - the more i think about it the more i think it's presence in my playthrough will be damaging to the story and immersion.

[droq1352]

 pre-ordered my CE a LONG time ago, didn't even know what was in it, i just wanted the CE...

[Cody211282]

monrapias wrote...

People are being raped and killed, and kids starving? Screw that! I'm not getting what I want!!!! (this is how I see the reaction from alot of people here being)

anyway, I have already bought the game, well payed for it anyway, actually payed for two copies. both collectors edition.

And if anything that was bolded was effecting me or anyone I knew I would be taking care of that rather then on here, but thank it's not so I can complain about practices I find offensive.

[Xenomoose]

Won't be boycotting, but won't be buying Day 1. I'm from the side of the internet that still hopes that one day EA and Valve will reconcile and have make-up sex in the form of releasing a GOTY edition of ME3 with all the DLCs included in it on Steam. If Valve's DLC restrictions REALLY are a problem to EA, that would be the wisest route to go on instead of completely withholding all content from Steam forever and ever and ever. (and if any Bioware Employee reads this, try suggesting this to EA. maybe they might actually consider it.). If that never happens, though, I'll still buy it, but only when the price has gone down significantly enough.

As for the Prothean DLC thing, I was a little angry about it, but if what I've heard afterwords is true, then it's not really as big an issue as I thought.

And that's my two cents.

[eye basher]

What pisses me off is that some people feel entitled to get something for free when i had to pay for it.

[TwistedComplex]

monrapias wrote...

People are being raped and killed, and kids starving? Screw that! I'm not getting what I want!!!! (this is how I see the reaction from alot of people here being)

anyway, I have already bought the game, well payed for it anyway, actually payed for two copies. both collectors edition.

OH OH OH

Let me guess, Bioware should actually charge more and we should be greatful right? Biodrones gonna drone

[hawat333]

Nah, they don't. It'll be the new "Pre-order cancelled", mark my words.

[Aryck the One]

Uhhh... No? I've waited years for Mass Effect 3, I made an account on Gamestop just to make sure I didn't miss out on the best of the pre-order DLC, why would I cancel now? I already missed out on the Collector's Edition because I waited too long to order...

Pre-order maintained. End of story.

[g99]

I'll buy the game when it will drop on the price like 75%, or I will not buy at all. For DLC I will wait for opinions media, reviews and we will see in the future. That's the moral for the day.

[TwistedComplex]

eye basher wrote...

What pisses me off is that some people feel entitled to get something for free when i had to pay for it.

And who's fault is it for paying for it?

[SuddenlyPhoenix]

nope I plan on handing over my hard earned ££ for this game