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#251
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All Dead wrote...

Abisco wrote...
Mars Combat


STFU Ashley

I couldn't even hear what she was saying...

At least it wasn't as stupid as what I heard Vega say, "HOLY ****! THEY'RE EXECUTING THEM!"
... I cringed. No **** sherlock.

When BW said that they were really excited about the VA for Vega, I was expecting a reveal on par with Liam Neeson as your dad in Fallout. Not Mr. Sarah Michelle Gellar who plays Fred in the Scooby Doo movies...

BaneForever wrote...

 After reading several post I feel as
a PS3 player that I am not welcomed to be apart of this franchise. Not
because of the games technical issuse, but because of the negativity of
other posters towards the PS3. I think everyone should be able to enjoy
the game equally regardless of their platform of choice. 


No, I don't hate you or your fellow PS3 players. I just don't think that they should use the PS3 version to review since its not AS full as the Xbox version (by that I mean the actions in ME1 won't effect the playthrough. The smaller ones anyway). Though judging from how he is reviewing the game anyway, on a default shepard playthrough, it won't matter as much in that regard. The Xbox version is probably the most popular by a ****load though. Someone needs to come up with an actual value for a ****load.

Modifié par nickkcin11, 25 février 2012 - 05:09 .


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A neutral isn't going to review a game any fairly. They could just as easily tear the game down for minor issues.

And Liam was the only decent VA in the entire game. Liam was also voicing a main character.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 05:07 .


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Tazzmission wrote...
that isnt true
as a fan myself i can honestly point out some flaws from the last 2 mass effect games if you like


You can point them out if you like. However, if you told me you worked for a rolling stone, and you're a huge Jack White fan and you were asked to review his album. I wouldn't take your assessment seriously, and before I could you'd have to convince me you can review music objectively before I took you seriously. See why this is unethical?

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android654 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
that isnt true
as a fan myself i can honestly point out some flaws from the last 2 mass effect games if you like


You can point them out if you like. However, if you told me you worked for a rolling stone, and you're a huge Jack White fan and you were asked to review his album. I wouldn't take your assessment seriously, and before I could you'd have to convince me you can review music objectively before I took you seriously. See why this is unethical?



see the issue is though the way you came out as non fanboys shouldnt review the games. thats just how i saw it as

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Im disappointed with the damn animations they didn't fix it at all its still trash.


The animations are not trash.

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I wonder if those lip syncing issues are on the 360 as well.

Also ugh at that scanning video. Seriously wtf Bioware.

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AlphaJarmel wrote...

I wonder if those lip syncing issues are on the 360 as well.

Also ugh at that scanning video. Seriously wtf Bioware.


believe it or not i still get some audio cuts from me2 on 360


im not to worried about it though. things like this happen and should be expected.

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android654 wrote...

They shouldn't have fans of games reviewing those games.


Uh....what? Yes they should. It's virtually impossible to get a completely unbiased opinion nowadays anyway....and I'd rather hear the opinion of someone who knows what he's talking about, and is a fan of the series, as opposed to some random IGN employee that has no interest in it. People seem to forget that it's a two way street....fanboys might over rate a game but people who have no interest in it will under rate it for reasons that have nothing to do with the game itself. Imagine if they had a "Street Fighter" fanatic review this game, or a hard core "Skyrim" fan review "Call of Duty". How accurate would those scores really be?

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Fans are often more critical. Take a look at these forums.

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as a fan I can pick out things that are bad and just plain awful, but I am a fan and those flaws do not effect my view of the game, because I am a fan. A review from a fan can be good or bad. It can be way to lenient or way too harsh depending on the person's expectations. I hope that his final review is much better. For instance, he gives details of some issues on the ps3 version of the game but then he goes on to give excuses for these flaws instead of recognizing them for what they are and moving on.

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Just ignore android and squally. They both have their heads far up Bethesduh's crack. To them, Bethesduh can do no wrong.

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Tazzmission wrote...

android654 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
that isnt true
as a fan myself i can honestly point out some flaws from the last 2 mass effect games if you like


You can point them out if you like. However, if you told me you worked for a rolling stone, and you're a huge Jack White fan and you were asked to review his album. I wouldn't take your assessment seriously, and before I could you'd have to convince me you can review music objectively before I took you seriously. See why this is unethical?



see the issue is though the way you came out as non fanboys shouldnt review the games. thats just how i saw it as


I think fanboys shouldn't professionally review games they are big fans of, it clouds their judgement. Of course if he's a fan of games then he's perfect for this field of work, but there are other games he should be reviewing and those are the ones he's not dying to buy for himself.

piemanz wrote...

android654 wrote...

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android654 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i think itll get a 9.5


after knowing some stuff it might get 8 as it best. 


mmmm i dont know. i know greg is a big mass effect fan i still say 9 or 9.5 the most




They shouldn't have fans of games reviewing those games.


If he deserves his job at all, it shouldn't matter.


One has nothing to do with the other. He's a fan, therefore his impartiality towards the quality of the game is impared. He's unable to view it's flaws without trying to overlook them because he views the game wholly different. If they have someone on staff who doesn't care one way or another, they could judge it more fairly.


I think it depends really, it could go both ways. What if he plays it and is hugely dissapointed?, thats not going to happen if he wasn't a fan in the first place.


If you have an investment, whether in interest or time, then you're more likely to be disappointed than someone who hasn't been eagerly anticipating it for months. If you aren't a follower of the series you can review it objectively, which is what Journalism is about, even faux-journalism like game reviewing.

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Sounds kinda underwhelming :/

I dunno, perhaps I was expecting to be blown away, this guys reaction doesn't seem to mirror that. He just seems to be thinking it's "good" so far...

I was hoping for more.. Perhaps I set my expectations too high

Modifié par Alex Arterius, 25 février 2012 - 05:12 .


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android654 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
that isnt true
as a fan myself i can honestly point out some flaws from the last 2 mass effect games if you like


You can point them out if you like. However, if you told me you worked for a rolling stone, and you're a huge Jack White fan and you were asked to review his album. I wouldn't take your assessment seriously, and before I could you'd have to convince me you can review music objectively before I took you seriously. See why this is unethical?


Then you read the review and take it for what it is with the knowledge he was already a fan. I see what your saying, but personelly I would rather a fan of the game review it than a non fan because he at least has some perspective and expectations of what he wants out of the game going in.

You have to remeber this is the third part of a series, wiith decision carried over, would you rather have a reviewer that hasnt played the previous two games and can't make a judgemnt regarding them decisions?

Modifié par piemanz, 25 février 2012 - 05:14 .


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What is he supposed to say then? 24 sized font with a page full of OMG?

It's hilarious how argh-pee-gee nuts expect a reviewer to gush over a game, while another nut expects a unenthusiastic review instead.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 05:15 .


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hex23 wrote...

android654 wrote...

They shouldn't have fans of games reviewing those games.


Uh....what? Yes they should. It's virtually impossible to get a completely unbiased opinion nowadays anyway....and I'd rather hear the opinion of someone who knows what he's talking about, and is a fan of the series, as opposed to some random IGN employee that has no interest in it. People seem to forget that it's a two way street....fanboys might over rate a game but people who have no interest in it will under rate it for reasons that have nothing to do with the game itself. Imagine if they had a "Street Fighter" fanatic review this game, or a hard core "Skyrim" fan review "Call of Duty". How accurate would those scores really be?


You  can have fans review a favorite game , as long as their reviewing for a new buyer standpoint.Ign tends to becuase they like a certain or they believe the game will be great.The will give a bad/ok game a high score instead of what the game is suppose to get.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 25 février 2012 - 05:14 .


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Somehow I doubt IGN, with ME3 plastered all over it and it's commercials running on every video, will allow it's reviewer to give it a low score even if he wants to.

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And a new buyer isn't going to examine the game with a microscope, picking out every flaw and saying the game blows because of them. Something many argh-pee-gee tards here love to do.

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Holoe4 wrote...

The Normandy looks so dark, but cool!


I love those colors. The blues and reds look great, very ME1-ish as well.

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[quote]LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

[quote]hex23 wrote...

[quote]android654 wrote...

They shouldn't have fans of games reviewing those games.

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Uh....what? Yes they should. It's virtually impossible to get a completely unbiased opinion nowadays anyway....and I'd rather hear the opinion of someone who knows what he's talking about, and is a fan of the series, as opposed to some random IGN employee that has no interest in it. People seem to forget that it's a two way street....fanboys might over rate a game but people who have no interest in it will under rate it for reasons that have nothing to do with the game itself. Imagine if they had a "Street Fighter" fanatic review this game, or a hard core "Skyrim" fan review "Call of Duty". How accurate would those scores really be?

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You  can have fans review a favorite game , as long as their reviewing for a new buyer standpoint.Ign tends to becuase they like a certain or they believe the game will be great.The will give a bad/ok game a high score instead of what the game is suppose to get.

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Examples? I've seen them give pretty good games bad scores but rarely bad games good scores. If you say Skyrim, you're just unfairly biased against Bethesda. They make great games. I've never had a problem with Skyrim or New Vegas glitches. I don't know, maybe that's just because I don't do weird **** like resurrect a dragon skeleton.
[quote]Holoe4 wrote...

The Normandy looks so dark, but cool![/quote]

I love those colors. The blues and reds look great, very ME1-ish as well.

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Yeah, I got the ME1 vibe too.

Modifié par nickkcin11, 25 février 2012 - 05:18 .


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piemanz wrote...

android654 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
that isnt true
as a fan myself i can honestly point out some flaws from the last 2 mass effect games if you like


You can point them out if you like. However, if you told me you worked for a rolling stone, and you're a huge Jack White fan and you were asked to review his album. I wouldn't take your assessment seriously, and before I could you'd have to convince me you can review music objectively before I took you seriously. See why this is unethical?


Then you read the rreview and take it for what it is with the knowledge he was already a fan. I see what your saying, but personelly I would rather a fan of the game review it than a non fan because he at least has some perspective and expectations of what he wants out of the game going in.

You have to remeber this is the third part of a series, wiith decision carried over, would you rather have a reviewer that hasnt played the previous two games and can't make a judgemnt regarding them decisions?


Very true, it is the third act in a trilogy and familiarity with the series is important to understand the dynamic between characters and the overall plot. This doesn't mean that only a fan can know the central plot of the story thus far or even research enough on the main characters to understand what has changed and what hasn't.

I just feel that if a fan reviews it, a lot of the flaws will be overlooked since they can live with them because they are fans.

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LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

hex23 wrote...

android654 wrote...

They shouldn't have fans of games reviewing those games.


Uh....what? Yes they should. It's virtually impossible to get a completely unbiased opinion nowadays anyway....and I'd rather hear the opinion of someone who knows what he's talking about, and is a fan of the series, as opposed to some random IGN employee that has no interest in it. People seem to forget that it's a two way street....fanboys might over rate a game but people who have no interest in it will under rate it for reasons that have nothing to do with the game itself. Imagine if they had a "Street Fighter" fanatic review this game, or a hard core "Skyrim" fan review "Call of Duty". How accurate would those scores really be?


You  can have fans review a favorite game , as long as their reviewing for a new buyer standpoint.Ign tends to becuase they like a certain or they believe the game will be great.The will give a bad/ok game a high score instead of what the game is suppose to get.


Hell, sometime fans can be even more harsh when reviewing a game than a non-fan. They'd make issues out of things that a non-fan never would have noticed. 

As for IGN, frankly, I don't think their review can be trusted regardless. They've done many questionable reviews in the past, and Chobot being in the game doesn't help matters either.

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Alex Arterius wrote...

Sounds kinda underwhelming :/

I dunno, perhaps I was expecting to be blown away, this guys reaction doesn't seem to mirror that. He just seems to be thinking it's "good" so far...

I was hoping for more.. Perhaps I set my expectations too high


Really? He seems to actually be enjoying his time quite a lot. His only complaint was that of "a little finicky" cover control scheme and PS3 technical problems (which he then writes off as not interfering at all with the game). 

This is really, really good so far.

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They seriously couldn't put the Normandy together in one piece? Really? They had to put a door on the front?

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nickkcin11 wrote...
Examples? I've seen them give pretty good games bad scores but rarely bad games good scores. If you say Skyrim, you're just unfairly biased against Bethesda. They make great games. I've never had a problem with Skyrim or New Vegas glitches. I don't know, maybe that's just because I don't do weird **** like resurrect a dragon skeleton.


I can't answer that since I'd have to know all of the reviewers favorite games and what they've reviewed, since that's what I'm talking about.