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[FluffyScarf]

AlphaJarmel. Perfect example why fans should never review games. Also an example why fans should never be involved in the making of a game.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 05:24 .

[Alex Arterius]

Sith Reaper wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

Sounds kinda underwhelming :/

I dunno, perhaps I was expecting to be blown away, this guys reaction doesn't seem to mirror that. He just seems to be thinking it's "good" so far...

I was hoping for more.. Perhaps I set my expectations too high

Really? He seems to actually be enjoying his time quite a lot. His only complaint was that of "a little finicky" cover control scheme and PS3 technical problems (which he then writes off as not interfering at all with the game). 

This is really, really good so far.

I didn't get that vibe from his writing tone. I mean he's not saying it's bad by any means, but he's not saying he's really bowled over by it either. It just sort of seems... standard? At the moment

[hex23]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

You  can have fans review a favorite game , as long as their reviewing for a new buyer standpoint.Ign tends to becuase they like a certain or they believe the game will be great.The will give a bad/ok game a high score instead of what the game is suppose to get.

"What the game is supposed to get?"

Huh?

We went through this same thing with "ME2". A few sites leaked their reviews....and it was pretty much nonstop praise. "Oh, they're just fans, wait unil the REAL reviews start to roll out!".

Then the game received almost unanimous critical acclaim. It's one of the most critically acclaimed titles, ever.

People on BSN (not you specifically, I mean in general) need to realize what they think of this game isn't necessarily in tune with reality.  And let's be 100% honest here, BSN is going to complain either way....if he gives it a low score "I told you it sucked!"....if he gives it a high score "oh well, he's a fan boy".

[AlphaJarmel]

FluffyScarf wrote...

AlphaJarmel. Perfect example why fans should never review games.

I wouldn't have noted that  in a review but thanks for trying.  It's just underwhelming what Bioware's done with the Unreal Engine compared to their colleagues.  It seems they never were able to get the hang of spacial issues and loading.

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 25 février 2012 - 05:26 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

I think Skyrim way over-rated for it's own good , but I in general don't have a problem with what it was given.

[android654]

someguy1231 wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

hex23 wrote...

android654 wrote...

They shouldn't have fans of games reviewing those games.

Uh....what? Yes they should. It's virtually impossible to get a completely unbiased opinion nowadays anyway....and I'd rather hear the opinion of someone who knows what he's talking about, and is a fan of the series, as opposed to some random IGN employee that has no interest in it. People seem to forget that it's a two way street....fanboys might over rate a game but people who have no interest in it will under rate it for reasons that have nothing to do with the game itself. Imagine if they had a "Street Fighter" fanatic review this game, or a hard core "Skyrim" fan review "Call of Duty". How accurate would those scores really be?

You  can have fans review a favorite game , as long as their reviewing for a new buyer standpoint.Ign tends to becuase they like a certain or they believe the game will be great.The will give a bad/ok game a high score instead of what the game is suppose to get.

Hell, sometime fans can be even more harsh when reviewing a game than a non-fan. They'd make issues out of things that a non-fan never would have noticed. 

As for IGN, frankly, I don't think their review can be trusted regardless. They've done many questionable reviews in the past, and Chobot being in the game doesn't help matters either.

My point exactly. The job of the reviewer is to know what makes a good game, album, product, but are ingorant of the specifics of the item they are reviewing until they get their hands on it.

[FluffyScarf]

I can't think of a single BW game where they raised the graphics 'bar'.

And the PS3 reviewer was ignorant of the game before his playthrough. He didn't play the demo, or follow the marketing closely.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 05:28 .

[Alex Arterius]

FluffyScarf wrote...

I can't think of a single BW game where they raised the graphics 'bar'.

There aint a ton of difference between ME and Kotor hehe

[FluffyScarf]

KotOR was more memorable. HK!

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 05:30 .

[macrocarl]

Oh BSN community! I'm glad they spruced up scanning systems and any time we get to see new locals they consistently look pretty awesome to me. Can't wait!

[hex23]

BaronIveagh wrote...

Somehow I doubt IGN, with ME3 plastered all over it and it's commercials running on every video, will allow it's reviewer to give it a low score even if he wants to.

So if this game receives near unanimous critical acclaim like "ME2" what will the excuse be then? I'm seriously having de ja vu here.

Sometimes a duck is just a duck. If a game is receiving high scores across the board, from virtually every critic, maybe....just maybe, we need to set aside the wild conspiracy theories and consider it might just be a great game.

Now, I dunno if "ME3" will be that praised, I'm saying if it is the excuses have to stop eventually.

[FluffyScarf]

IGN had Lagrim ads plastered over it. Where were all the accusations of Bethesduh paying out the reviewers?

[Alex Arterius]

FluffyScarf wrote...

KotOR was more memorable. HK!

Oh please, I totally agree with you!

ME3 (squad wise) seems to have a lot less memorable characters in it than Kotor this time round... hmm

[Alex Arterius]

hex23 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

Somehow I doubt IGN, with ME3 plastered all over it and it's commercials running on every video, will allow it's reviewer to give it a low score even if he wants to.

So if this game receives near unanimous critical acclaim like "ME2" what will the excuse be then? I'm seriously having de ja vu here.

Sometimes a duck is just a duck. If a game is receiving high scores across the board, from virtually every critic, maybe....just maybe, we need to set aside the wild conspiracy theories and consider it might just be a great game.

Now, I dunno if "ME3" will be that praised, I'm saying if it is the excuses have to stop eventually.

Do you think ME3 will get more or less acclaim then ME2?

[FluffyScarf]

It's basically rounding up the old gang. Oh, and here's a new soldier grunt for you.

Me thinks 3 will get slightly lower scores on Metacritic. At least a 90. Not as high as 96.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 05:35 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

hex23 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

Somehow I doubt IGN, with ME3 plastered all over it and it's commercials running on every video, will allow it's reviewer to give it a low score even if he wants to.

So if this game receives near unanimous critical acclaim like "ME2" what will the excuse be then? I'm seriously having de ja vu here.

Sometimes a duck is just a duck. If a game is receiving high scores across the board, from virtually every critic, maybe....just maybe, we need to set aside the wild conspiracy theories and consider it might just be a great game.

Now, I dunno if "ME3" will be that praised, I'm saying if it is the excuses have to stop eventually.

I think most are saying you can't trust ign and some other big known review sites sometimes.That's not to say all reviews are high , but sometimes your better judgeing the game yourself/friend/smaller site.Where the reviewers will usually tell it like it is , and not give a game something high just because their fans.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Alex Arterius wrote...

hex23 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

Somehow I doubt IGN, with ME3 plastered all over it and it's commercials running on every video, will allow it's reviewer to give it a low score even if he wants to.

So if this game receives near unanimous critical acclaim like "ME2" what will the excuse be then? I'm seriously having de ja vu here.

Sometimes a duck is just a duck. If a game is receiving high scores across the board, from virtually every critic, maybe....just maybe, we need to set aside the wild conspiracy theories and consider it might just be a great game.

Now, I dunno if "ME3" will be that praised, I'm saying if it is the excuses have to stop eventually.

Do you think ME3 will get more or less acclaim then ME2?

ME3 will get more simply for being the end of a trilogy.The game would have to have muitple game killings bugs , not to be.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 25 février 2012 - 05:37 .

[android654]

Alex Arterius wrote...

hex23 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

Somehow I doubt IGN, with ME3 plastered all over it and it's commercials running on every video, will allow it's reviewer to give it a low score even if he wants to.

So if this game receives near unanimous critical acclaim like "ME2" what will the excuse be then? I'm seriously having de ja vu here.

Sometimes a duck is just a duck. If a game is receiving high scores across the board, from virtually every critic, maybe....just maybe, we need to set aside the wild conspiracy theories and consider it might just be a great game.

Now, I dunno if "ME3" will be that praised, I'm saying if it is the excuses have to stop eventually.

Do you think ME3 will get more or less acclaim then ME2?

Well, we're a week away from release and marketing is way down in comparison to ME2, which keeps expectations and hype lower. With that in mind, it might be the same or slightly less. But don't be surprised to hear scores beneath 9 or90, because I'm pretty confident we'll see a lot of 8's.

[AlphaJarmel]

FluffyScarf wrote...

It's basically rounding up the old gang. Oh, and here's a new soldier grunt for you.

Me thinks 3 will get slightly lower scores on Metacritic. At least a 90. Not as high as 96.

Yea it's definitely going to get docked due to multiplayer so I can't see it reaching 96.

[razgriz21]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Nobody cares about what those pro-sopa a**holes have to say.

The only thing IGN is good at is classic articles and there Babeology (even that is lacking at times)

[Alex Arterius]

Yeah I agree... I reckon it will be slightly down on ME2, I think a lot of people will take issue with Kinect + Multiplayer additions. I think a lot of critics might also be slightly annoyed with the overall direction the game has taken.

[FluffyScarf]

MP has been well received. At least on these boards.
And ME2 is considered to have a weak story with watered down gameplay, and it still got 10's and 9's from reviewers.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 05:45 .

[Sith Reaper]

Alex Arterius wrote...

hex23 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

Somehow I doubt IGN, with ME3 plastered all over it and it's commercials running on every video, will allow it's reviewer to give it a low score even if he wants to.

So if this game receives near unanimous critical acclaim like "ME2" what will the excuse be then? I'm seriously having de ja vu here.

Sometimes a duck is just a duck. If a game is receiving high scores across the board, from virtually every critic, maybe....just maybe, we need to set aside the wild conspiracy theories and consider it might just be a great game.

Now, I dunno if "ME3" will be that praised, I'm saying if it is the excuses have to stop eventually.

Do you think ME3 will get more or less acclaim then ME2?

Considering pre-orders are much higher than for ME2, and that most of the systems complained about have been improved (scanning re-worked, combat and mobility improved further, expanded story elements, and well-received multiplayer), I would say it will do well. If the screenshots from the "From Ashes" DLC are any indication, my only personal complaint of textures being lower will not be an issue in the game. 

Modifié par Sith Reaper, 25 février 2012 - 05:46 .

[FluffyScarf]

ME 3 already looks like a stronger game overall than ME 2, which got near universal praise from 'critics'. No reason why ME 3 won't have similar, or only very slightly lower scores. (Due to MP, Kinect, frame issues).

[Alex Arterius]

FluffyScarf wrote...

MP has been well received. At least on these boards.
And ME2 is considered to have a weak story with watered down gameplay, and it still got 10's and 9's from reviewers.

I think a lot of the reasoning behind the high scores critics gave it for story was due to the ME2 characters rather than the indeed weak main plot.

I think charcters will be a lot weaker in this one overall and I think this will effect the scores