FluffyScarf wrote...
Yes, because Uncharted, Lagrim, Crysis 2, Arkham, TW2 and all other AAA titles were extremely 'polished' upon their release too.
Notice that Lagrim was not singled out.
FluffyScarf wrote...
It's not like ME 1 and 2 were highly polished like Portal either. And even though ME 2 is seen as the black sheep, it still received high scores.
Black sheep only in BSN. The original was an average game by 2007 standards and a terrible game by today's standards. ME2 usurped the record for most Game of the Year awards from Uncharted 2 and brought in droves more fans than the original ever did.FluffyScarf wrote...
It's not like ME 1 and 2 were highly polished like Portal either. And even though ME 2 is seen as the black sheep, it still received high scores.
AlphaJarmel wrote...
It is. In that the mechanics are a decade old.
Modifié par FluffyScarf, 25 février 2012 - 09:38 .
JeffZero wrote...
They could probably do quite a bit with it. Give you some genuine vehicle sections, for starters. I know you aren't alone in that desire by any means.
Wonder if they're going the DLC route with that again.
Oblivious wrote...
Uncharted, Skyrim, and Arkham had so much good that it vastly outweighed the bad. Crysis... nah, that game sucked. It's only a matter of time whether ME3's good can outweigh the bad or if it's another Dragon Age 2.
GirlPower23 wrote...
AlphaJarmel wrote...
It is. In that the mechanics are a decade old.
Not quite, Duke Nukem was stuck in a transition phase of Past and Present. It really couldn't decide what it wanted to be, so to speak. If it were "Decades" old mechanics it would of been very well received by the PC Community as a whole. I'd say there is a sufficient market for old school mechanics and not very many people execute it anymore.
habitat 67 wrote...
Oblivious wrote...
I agree, that thing was more a tech demo than anything else. A demo that evidently failed since I have yet to see another CryEngine game anywhere.GirlPower23 wrote...
Crysis 2 was CryTeks sad attempt at making a game and failing. However, they did get to show off their pretty engine with DX11. :innocent:Oblivious wrote...
Uncharted, Skyrim, and Arkham had so much good that it vastly outweighed the bad. Crysis... nah, that game sucked. It's only a matter of time whether ME3's good can outweigh the bad or if it's another Dragon Age 2.
I liked Crysis 2. It was just a bit boring.
AlphaJarmel wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
They could probably do quite a bit with it. Give you some genuine vehicle sections, for starters. I know you aren't alone in that desire by any means.
Wonder if they're going the DLC route with that again.
I mean it's really impossible to state either way as they might have had time to do vehicle sections but maybe the producers just flat out didn't want to go down that route. It's something that only people at Bioware will know in regards to what happened at those design meetings.
It's just this minigame is so barebones. I'm now curious what they did to the other minigames as in did they streamline those to death too?
FluffyScarf wrote...
Complaints about node and memory minigame in ME 2. Removed. Now complaints about lack of minigame.
About 95% of my favorite games are from old pre-2005. The Lost Vikings, Diablo, Starcraft, Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Pokemon. And all of them belonged to either the old PCs that looked like a TV or to the SNES.JeffZero wrote...
Man, Secret of Mana (1993 JRPG example) and I really live in the past, don't we? "By 2007's standards; by today's standards"... I know a lot has changed in four years but it's hard to fathom for me in a lot of ways. My top fifty games list (yeah, I've written it out extensively -- being on GameFAQs a long time wears off on you) is about 80% games from before 2001, so when I read things like that it reminds me how far removed I am from the more normal gamer outlook on industry paradigm shifts.
FluffyScarf wrote...
And speaking of Guardian, why aren't you hiking up some snowy mountain, fighting skeletons and bears?
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
It also looked damn good to me (even on Xbox). Maybe one of these days I'll buy a cheap PC copy too and see what difference the hi-res textures make.
Oblivious wrote...
About 95% of my favorite games are from old pre-2005. The Lost Vikings, Diablo, Starcraft, Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Pokemon. And all of them belonged to either the old PCs that looked like a TV or to the SNES.JeffZero wrote...
Man, Secret of Mana (1993 JRPG example) and I really live in the past, don't we? "By 2007's standards; by today's standards"... I know a lot has changed in four years but it's hard to fathom for me in a lot of ways. My top fifty games list (yeah, I've written it out extensively -- being on GameFAQs a long time wears off on you) is about 80% games from before 2001, so when I read things like that it reminds me how far removed I am from the more normal gamer outlook on industry paradigm shifts.
But fact of the matter is, 95% of the list is based around nostalgia. When I pop in Starcraft the game is literally unplayable. It's just so very bad, especially compared to it's sequal. And I'm sure if I played Diablo or Baldur's Gate today I wouldn't make it pass the intro.
JeffZero wrote...
Well, have you played the demo? Bypass is pretty straightforward now to say the least, but BioWare kept talking about how they wanted to streamline loading times and worked on that with the ME2 DLCs, because fans weren't happy with the loading screens from ME2. It seems like, at least if the demo holds weight for the final product, bypassing is... a loading screen. A several-second, 'interactive' loading screen.
Which sounds lame as hell, but if it masks loading times routinely as well as it did on Sur'kesh, I don't know that I mind.
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Oblivious wrote...
About 95% of my favorite games are from old pre-2005. The Lost Vikings, Diablo, Starcraft, Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Pokemon. And all of them belonged to either the old PCs that looked like a TV or to the SNES.JeffZero wrote...
Man, Secret of Mana (1993 JRPG example) and I really live in the past, don't we? "By 2007's standards; by today's standards"... I know a lot has changed in four years but it's hard to fathom for me in a lot of ways. My top fifty games list (yeah, I've written it out extensively -- being on GameFAQs a long time wears off on you) is about 80% games from before 2001, so when I read things like that it reminds me how far removed I am from the more normal gamer outlook on industry paradigm shifts.
But fact of the matter is, 95% of the list is based around nostalgia. When I pop in Starcraft the game is literally unplayable. It's just so very bad, especially compared to it's sequal. And I'm sure if I played Diablo or Baldur's Gate today I wouldn't make it pass the intro.
FluffyScarf wrote...
There is still a loading 'disc' that spins in the bottom left corner though.
BobSmith101 wrote...
Oblivious wrote...
About 95% of my favorite games are from old pre-2005. The Lost Vikings, Diablo, Starcraft, Sonic, Mario, Megaman, Pokemon. And all of them belonged to either the old PCs that looked like a TV or to the SNES.JeffZero wrote...
Man, Secret of Mana (1993 JRPG example) and I really live in the past, don't we? "By 2007's standards; by today's standards"... I know a lot has changed in four years but it's hard to fathom for me in a lot of ways. My top fifty games list (yeah, I've written it out extensively -- being on GameFAQs a long time wears off on you) is about 80% games from before 2001, so when I read things like that it reminds me how far removed I am from the more normal gamer outlook on industry paradigm shifts.
But fact of the matter is, 95% of the list is based around nostalgia. When I pop in Starcraft the game is literally unplayable. It's just so very bad, especially compared to it's sequal. And I'm sure if I played Diablo or Baldur's Gate today I wouldn't make it pass the intro.
I'm much better with old handheld games. They just look less aged on the small screens. I can't play stuff like SoM on a 50" screen.
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