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[twisty77]

I doubt they get a 10. Very likely a 9.5, though. 10's should be saved for when a reviewer can find LITERALLY nothing wrong with the game. As it is, technical glitches, texture pop-ins, frame rate issues.

I CAN'T FREAKING WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5 MORE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rurik948]

In fact the message delivered to us by reviewer, is quite clear. This game is GREAT only as a story continuation, but inferior to Mass Effect 2 in many ways.

"Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high...........This change only made itself clear 15 or 20 hours into the game, when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious how intricately woven the sum parts of the Mass Effect series are. I found myself continually shaking my head in awe as things came together, not only from Mass Effect 2, but from Mass Effect itself"

[Mendelevosa]

Squallypo wrote...

LazyAssassin15 asks... When the Reaper Awareness bar fills up and they start to come for you, you evade them, correct? Well, my question is this: what would happen if you let them come into contact with you without evading them?

Colin answers... When you scan systems for hidden assets, such as planet-side objects to collect or derelict ships to harvest for fuel, there's a chance that your electronic pulses will catch the ire of nearby Reaper scouts. Once the Reapers sense you're in an area, continued scanning will eventually and inevitably draw them into the system, where they will relentlessly chase you.

Getting away requires you to skip out of the system, whether it's via Mass Relay or by going into interstellar space en route to a new system in the same Mass Relay radius. If you don't get away, the Reaper ships catch up to the Normandy and you're greeted with a Game Over screen. Nothing spectacular. In fact, it's disappointing how unspectacular getting captured is.


thats Very Dissapointing, couldnt they just make something like kotor1 turrets fighting thing and destroy them? i found that mini game fun..

And exactly how is the Normandy going to destroy the Reapers all by itself?

[Fat Headed Wolf]

"Mass Effect 3 marks the culmination of the most engrossing, engaging and entertaining story ever told in gaming's winding history."

Oh, boy... Talk about hyperbole, huh? Sure it's great, but best ever?

I think we can all agree that the greatest ever video game story is in the Super Mario series (not Yoshi's Island... totally not canon).

A large Koopa/ turtle dude steals a princess? Can you say doomed love?

Stomping Goombas? Clearly a take on our social commentary...

The racoon suit thingy? No doubt a vision of youth reaching for their dreams...

Without thought, Mario is more deserving of this comment. Right?

[CerberusSoldier]

wow IGN you already sound like the same Skyrim style apologist on Mass Effect 3

[AlphaJarmel]

 

hex23 wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

The complexity of Deus Ex is easily on par with anything the ME series has ever done.  Alpha Protocol also puts the entire ME trilogy to shame in regards to choice and consequence.

"Alpha Protocol" is a terrible game. If they wanted to tell an amazing story and not worry about creating a good game they should've wrote a novel. I can't give a game credit for it's story if the game itself sucks.

Alpha Protocol handled the dialogue wheel better than anything Bioware has done.  The dialogue was also leagues and I do mean leagues better.  Just because the gameplay in of itself sucked, doesn't mean the game didn't have great ideas. 

Sofia Lamb wrote...

Alpha Protocol was also a single game. It had much more room to spread it's legs in regard to choices. Also, it had to sacrifice a lot of resources for it to have those branching paths.

And being an Obsidian game it was unplayable until several months after release.

So?  Give me a reason as to why there's difference between a mediocre consequence system between three games and a great one in one game.  It's the complexity that matters.

[The Last Guardian]

Rurik948 wrote...

In fact the message delivered to us by reviewer, is quite clear. This game is GREAT only as a story continuation, but inferior to Mass Effect 2 in many ways.

"Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high...........This change only made itself clear 15 or 20 hours into the game, when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious how intricately woven the sum parts of the Mass Effect series are. I found myself continually shaking my head in awe as things came together, not only from Mass Effect 2, but from Mass Effect itself"

I don't see it that way at all. I think it's a culmination of a few things;

1. The ps3 version he tested has some graphical and performance issues in the first few hours (apperantly that dissappeared as he continued)

2. He was upset about the timed side quests (which ME2 didn't feature), and was upset about the fact that not every single side mission deals with the reaper invasion...he also didn't like feeling overwhelmed with the mass amount of side missions given at the Citidel. 

3. As he was playing he didn't see anything new offered that Mass effect 2, or 1 touched upon. 

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I think in this case the narrative began to pick up, he learned his lesson about the timed side quests/dealing with the fact that not every side mission needs to be about the reaper invasion, and the performance issues cleared away. 

[MaleQuariansFTW]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 marks the culmination of the most engrossing, engaging and entertaining story ever told in gaming's winding history."

Oh, boy... Talk about hyperbole, huh? Sure it's great, but best ever?

I think we can all agree that the greatest ever video game story is in the Super Mario series (not Yoshi's Island... totally not canon).

A large Koopa/ turtle dude steals a princess? Can you say doomed love?

Stomping Goombas? Clearly a take on our social commentary...

The racoon suit thingy? No doubt a vision of youth reaching for their dreams...

Without thought, Mario is more deserving of this comment. Right?

Not sure if serious...

[Fat Headed Wolf]

MaleQuariansFTW wrote...

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 marks the culmination of the most engrossing, engaging and entertaining story ever told in gaming's winding history."

Oh, boy... Talk about hyperbole, huh? Sure it's great, but best ever?

I think we can all agree that the greatest ever video game story is in the Super Mario series (not Yoshi's Island... totally not canon).

A large Koopa/ turtle dude steals a princess? Can you say doomed love?

Stomping Goombas? Clearly a take on our social commentary...

The racoon suit thingy? No doubt a vision of youth reaching for their dreams...

Without thought, Mario is more deserving of this comment. Right?

Not sure if serious...

I am super serial...

[MaleQuariansFTW]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

MaleQuariansFTW wrote...

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 marks the culmination of the most engrossing, engaging and entertaining story ever told in gaming's winding history."

Oh, boy... Talk about hyperbole, huh? Sure it's great, but best ever?

I think we can all agree that the greatest ever video game story is in the Super Mario series (not Yoshi's Island... totally not canon).

A large Koopa/ turtle dude steals a princess? Can you say doomed love?

Stomping Goombas? Clearly a take on our social commentary...

The racoon suit thingy? No doubt a vision of youth reaching for their dreams...

Without thought, Mario is more deserving of this comment. Right?

Not sure if serious...

I am super serial...

Oh okay Kai Leng.

[GuardianAngel470]

Rurik948 wrote...

In fact the message delivered to us by reviewer, is quite clear. This game is GREAT only as a story continuation, but inferior to Mass Effect 2 in many ways.

"Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high...........This change only made itself clear 15 or 20 hours into the game, when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious how intricately woven the sum parts of the Mass Effect series are. I found myself continually shaking my head in awe as things came together, not only from Mass Effect 2, but from Mass Effect itself"

Way to intentionally misquote Colin there bub. The sentiment he was conveying was that in the first 15 to 20 hours ME3 seemed to feel weaker than ME2 but then it rose to a whole new height and surpassed ME2.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

 looks really good

[hangmans tree]

He lost me at

Mass Effect 2 in many ways represents the sheer potential of gaming, a force to be reckoned with that easily falls into the short list of best games of all-time. Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high.

I know every opinion is just this, an opinion, right? But can we do that trying at journalism? This seems highly opinionated

[Il Divo]

Daywalker315 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Backup Magus wrote...

So aside from Planescape:  Torment, name a work that is unambiguously and inarguably superior?  I'm not even saying ME necessarily tops my list, but the series has done enough to push the enevelope of narrative in video game to warrant that sort of consideration, and my tolerance for this nitpicky ingrate crap that permeates these boards is tipping towards E.

For myself:

Legacy of Kain, Heavy Rain, Assassin's Creed 1, KotOR 2, Bioshock, Planescape: Torment (already listed), Shadows of the Colossus, Dark Souls.

Of course, I don't think any of this is unambiguous or inarguable. It all depends on the angle you take in the argument. I'm sure ME3 is going to be great, but in those are just some examples of narratives I consider superior.

The reviewer was referring to a series of games and tying the stories together though, not ME3 as a standalone. The ME series carried player choice and consequence through 3 games and if he's telling the truth, weaves it all together amazingly in ME3. Those other games you mentioned didn't do that (which is more what he was referring to I believe). Nothing against those games because they are quality titles and some of them might be better narratives 1 game versus any 1 ME game. But the ME series tied together did something very unique.

Fair enough. I tend to jump the gun sometimes when given the opportunity to post my favorite stories in gaming.

[SirEtchwart]

hangmans tree wrote...

He lost me at

Mass Effect 2 in many ways represents the sheer potential of gaming, a force to be reckoned with that easily falls into the short list of best games of all-time. Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high.

I know every opinion is just this, an opinion, right? But can we do that trying at journalism? This seems highly opinionated

I would assume that, in a review, opinions are going to be prevelant. 

As far as I can tell, that's the point.

[DaJe]

hangmans tree wrote...

He lost me at

Mass Effect 2 in many ways represents the sheer potential of gaming, a force to be reckoned with that easily falls into the short list of best games of all-time. Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high.

I know every opinion is just this, an opinion, right? But can we do that trying at journalism? This seems highly opinionated

Indeed. ME2 was good, or even great but in no way did it show the potential in gaming as some aspects fell short in comparision to ME1 or games with similar features. Neither the action and specially not the roleplaying were close to the best of their kind so I can't really see what this guy is talking about.

[hangmans tree]

SirEtchwart wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

He lost me at

Mass Effect 2 in many ways represents the sheer potential of gaming, a force to be reckoned with that easily falls into the short list of best games of all-time. Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high.

I know every opinion is just this, an opinion, right? But can we do that trying at journalism? This seems highly opinionated

I would assume that, in a review, opinions are going to be prevelant. 

As far as I can tell, that's the point.

You cant judge by your tastes but study pros and cons. I'd prefer heuristic approach.
Too many a times I see reviews as another marketing tool - get this game. Review should point out strong and weak points, suggest and draw attention to some of the features - overall help to draw the final conclusion by yourself (the reader). In another words provide sufficient information... not to build vague or relative statements.

Modifié par hangmans tree, 02 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Sith Reaper]

Rurik948 wrote...

In fact the message delivered to us by reviewer, is quite clear. This game is GREAT only as a story continuation, but inferior to Mass Effect 2 in many ways.

"Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high...........This change only made itself clear 15 or 20 hours into the game, when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious how intricately woven the sum parts of the Mass Effect series are. I found myself continually shaking my head in awe as things came together, not only from Mass Effect 2, but from Mass Effect itself"

You cut out the part that contradicts your statement: 

"Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high. But now, my feelings have markedly changed."

[Koju737]

Rurik948 wrote...

In fact the message delivered to us by reviewer, is quite clear. This game is GREAT only as a story continuation, but inferior to Mass Effect 2 in many ways.

"Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high...........This change only made itself clear 15 or 20 hours into the game, when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious how intricately woven the sum parts of the Mass Effect series are. I found myself continually shaking my head in awe as things came together, not only from Mass Effect 2, but from Mass Effect itself"

Yea I think you misread that. In fact you left a whole sentence out. One that is important to what hes saying. Essentially that ME3 is a better game than ME2 in that it ties up everything that has been setup over the years.

"Mass Effect 2 in many ways represents the sheer potential of gaming, a
force to be reckoned with that easily falls into the short list of best
games of all-time. Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3
actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just
because it set the bar so high. But now, my feelings have markedly
changed.
This change only made itself clear 15 or 20 hours into the game, when it
becomes overwhelmingly obvious how intricately woven the sum parts of
the Mass Effect series are. I found myself continually shaking my head
in awe as things came together, not only from Mass Effect 2, but from
Mass Effect itself."

[Ginkasa]

hangmans tree wrote...

He lost me at

Mass Effect 2 in many ways represents the sheer potential of gaming, a force to be reckoned with that easily falls into the short list of best games of all-time. Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high.

I know every opinion is just this, an opinion, right? But can we do that trying at journalism? This seems highly opinionated

Reviews aren't journalism.  I definitely think a little bit of restraint should be used.  "Best game ever" accolades should really be reserved until well after the game has been released and absorbed into the general conscious and thus can be judged on a more subjective level.

However, reviews are still, in the end, opinions.  You're not going to agree with every one.

[CerberusSoldier]

Shifty Assassin wrote...

I hope ign gives Mass Effect 3 a 10 =).

   


I would disagree based on the ending

[Machazareel]

hangmans tree wrote...

SirEtchwart wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

He lost me at

Mass Effect 2 in many ways represents the sheer potential of gaming, a force to be reckoned with that easily falls into the short list of best games of all-time. Indeed, for some of the experience, Mass Effect 3 actually felt weaker in many ways when compared to Mass Effect 2 just because it set the bar so high.

I know every opinion is just this, an opinion, right? But can we do that trying at journalism? This seems highly opinionated

I would assume that, in a review, opinions are going to be prevelant. 

As far as I can tell, that's the point.

You cant judge by your tastes but study pros and cons. I'd prefer heuristic approach.
Too many a times I see reviews as another marketing tool - get this game. Review should point out strong and weak points, suggest and draw attention to some of the features - overall help to draw the final conclusion by yourself (the reader). In another words provide sufficient information... not to build vague or relative statements.

Which points are strong and which are weak can often be entirely subjective as well. Anybody expecting anything other than the personal opinion of the person reviewing the game is setting themeselves up for disappointment. Unless of course the reviewers subjective opinions coincide with their own. Regardless, ME2 was the subject of near universal acclaim, and even though some people like to trash the writing, plot etc within that game, doesn't detract from what appears to have been the majority opinion. A few armchair writers, who shockingly have absolutely nothing published, giving their decrees on good and bad writing doesn't detract from that.

[Lucy Glitter]

I never follow IGN. Their reviews are always biased.

Doesn't mean I think they are right or wrong about ME3, but their track record is as shady as a 50s Vice Squad.

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 02 mars 2012 - 11:49 .

[Chala]

Do you know when will be available the full review?

[FlyingWalrus]

Can't spell ignorance without I-G-N.