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[Kronner]

Vanguard in ME3 is fine, but it is nowhere near ME2's Vanguard for me. In terms of fun, I mean.

Charge/Nova spam is not even risky if you have "the proper" build. Kinda gets boring after few matches.

Modifié par Kronner, 25 février 2012 - 12:07 .

[goofyomnivore]

Vanguard in ME3 is fine, but it is nowhere near ME2's Vanguard for me. In terms of fun, I mean.

Charge/Nova spam is not even risky if you have "the proper" build. Kinda gets boring after few matches.

Exactly how I feel. The class has no challenge at all, nor is it very dynamic. I got bored with mine a few hours after hitting 20 and beating Gold with it a couple times.

Modifié par strive, 25 février 2012 - 12:24 .

[Arppis]

didymos1120 wrote...

Serious business indeed.

[No Snakes Alive]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

Cheating is Cheating. 

>Unnecessary butthurt
>Video game
>Non-competitive

Cry more.

Srsly bro. Vanguard stole muh kills.

Just wait til the Devs tell him it works as intended; he's probably still recovering from the suicide attempt after they said the reload trick wasn't cheating lol. Must be scary to live in a world with no shades of gray, where manually executing an in-game tactic on the class with the single highest need for survivability that buys an extra second of not dying here and there just absolutely ruins the experience for one's teammates in a cooperative environment against the AI with a credit-based random unlock reward system.

And the funny thing is that I bet he wouldn't make it past wave 5 on bronze solo w/ a Vanguard even if he abused the hell out of that horrific, game-breaking exploit.

[Pedro Costa]

Rezources wrote...

No Snakes Alive, who's more "butt-hurt" here. The guy who wants to play the game as intended or the guy who's defending and exploiting a cheat like a 5 year-old and in no way sees how doing so undermines other people's efforts?

The Vanguard isn't hard to play as, While I'll admit to never surviving a full wave on Gold (only got to wave 5 with three other dudes) I did so, without cheating, which means anyone can do so as long as they actually spend time practicing and playing well. Now, doesn't that sound more like what the devs intended than cheating?

You haven't discovered some buried potential of the class that only your leet skillz could master. If you look on someone else's test without being noticed, you cheated, but you can try the whole justifying it with the whole "shades of gray" thing if you'd like.

Let him be, if he thinks perma-invincibility is fun, all the power to him.
If I find another player using such exploits, I'll simply leave the game or vote him to be kicked after the match, and that's all people should do, actually: Don't like someone's playstyle, leave or kick.

For the record, I'm a Vanguard and I can't see how any Vanguard worth their weight can actually defend such a cheap exploit - dev intended or otherwise, but I'm not going to tell someone how to play the bloody game either.
As I said, if I disagree or don't like it, I can always leave the server or vote the player to be kicked.

PS: Kronner, if you can record some of your Gold matches, I'd love to see them =)

[Shadow of Terror]

So, I tested this, and its easy to do, and while your screen shows you being hit by bullets, your shield never goes down.

[EsterCloat]

I tested it as well and I found it kind of hard to do right. My dexterity with my right hand is somewhat lacking so that could explain it. I could do it after a while but I was so focused on it I sometimes didn't take the opportunity to attack. I found it kind of boring to be honest; rolling all invincible was sort of cool but my damage output just dropped real bad. I just eventually decided "screw it" and went back to playing normally which I found much better.

So meh. It's neat but I think I'll just play normally.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 25 février 2012 - 09:11 .

[Chaoswind]

while you do this you aren't doing damage, so this is pretty much the same as dancing naked in front of the enemy while your team mates snipe them in the confusion

[robarcool]

Jestina wrote...

It's a demo. We don't know if this stuff is in the release version, or been fixed yet.

It might not be very good to expect much from the full game. IGN has been reviewing it and they cite the same lip-syncing problems etc. that have been seen in the demo.

[tomcruisejr]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

Cheating is Cheating. 

>Unnecessary butthurt
>Video game
>Non-competitive

Cry more.

Just don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously, and laugh whenever it's mentioned. It will just be another tacked on/half-baked MP additions for quick cash if they don't fix such obvious exploits.

I'd like to see them actually care about this MP, but hey thats asking for too much right?

Modifié par tomcruisejr, 25 février 2012 - 10:18 .

[Shadow of Terror]

Chaoswind wrote...

while you do this you aren't doing damage, so this is pretty much the same as dancing naked in front of the enemy while your team mates snipe them in the confusion

Works great with half Nova. Nova once for main damage, then instead of doing the second nova (which barely does damage anyway), just do the fake/cancel and then charge. Great damage output and almost impossible to kill.

[What a Succulent Ass]

tomcruisejr wrote...

Just don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously,

I don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously, it's a damn game. Someone's exploiting a loophole? JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE CALL THE MOTHERF*CKIN POLICE.

Just take the stick out of your collective anuses and recognise that entertainment is not, in fact, supposed to be srs bsness. There are better things to become outraged over.

I can't see how any Vanguard worth their weight

I must have missed the cult induction.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 25 février 2012 - 11:13 .

[IlluminaZer0]

Random Jerkface wrote...I don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously, it's a damn game. Someone's exploiting a loophole? JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE CALL THE MOTHERF*CKIN POLICE.

So in other words you think balance is irrelevant to good gameplay. Despite supposedly being apathetic, you freak out over nothing. Ok. Makes perfect sense.

Modifié par IlluminaZer0, 25 février 2012 - 11:18 .

[tomcruisejr]

Random Jerkface wrote...

tomcruisejr wrote...

Just don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously,

I don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously, it's a damn game. Someone's exploiting a loophole? JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE CALL THE MOTHERF*CKIN POLICE.

Just take the stick out of your collective anuses and recognise that entertainment is not, in fact, supposed to be srs bsness. There are better things to become outraged over.

I can't see how any Vanguard worth their weight

I must have missed the cult induction.

By not taking it seriously, I mean laughing at bioware's MP attempt and refering to it as a half-baked addition, while continuing to play a multitude of superior MP/COOP games that the devs actually properly care for and balance. You know most devs do this for MP...right?

Also, can you please refrain from posting immaturely or trollishly? Lets just keep it civil.


Why are you so up in arms at the suggestion that Bioware simply take exploits a bit more seriously now that their game is multiplayer? Like every other developer?  Are they that hard to fix? I'm sure we can find some even ground.

Modifié par tomcruisejr, 25 février 2012 - 11:26 .

[EsterCloat]

I don't think any singular exploit is going to cause droves of people to write off the Mass Effect Multiplayer as a joke but maybe I just underestimate multiplayer fans as a whole. Plenty of other multiplayer games, both co-op and competitive, have exploits that people utilize and I don't see people laughing at all those. Even if they do laugh at it, I really don't care. I don't and won't claim to be some kind of skilled multiplayer person, looking for the praise of those online. I rarely play multiplayer anything and I'm probably rather mediocre as a player.

Regarding this exploit: I don't care either way. I already said its not my cup of tea. They patch it, whatever. They don't, whatever. I just don't care.

I just want to have fun.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 25 février 2012 - 11:44 .

[Sharky-chan]

Whoa...I wake up to see these serious business posts. In all seriousness, it's a demo and what everyone is doing is pretty much testing the multiplayer. If something unexpected happened as in this case, then it'll spark a discussion which hopefully will grab the devs attention. We are all pretty much play testers in this sense.

Besides, the ME3 demo is about co-op, a PvE to put it loosely and not a PvP. Because of this, I don't see much harm in it. Also to clarify, the definition of a cheat is someone using an external program to give you an unfair advantage ie Aimbots, wallhacks while exploits are coding flaws in the game that an observant player can take notice and use it.

Think about diablo 2. There was an exploit where you can sidestep to dodge attacks or portal where the exploit was to pretty much shoot portals through walls for speedruns. Those are exploits as in the case of the vid. Whether or not it will remain there is up to the devs.

Besides, me and my team had fun in the vid. More so since the exploit has obvious flaws as with the atlas execution grab (hillarious part for me). The point of playing a game is to have fun and not make it into a serious business sort of thing. I've had enough stress at work and all I want to have is just plain fun which the exploit did not diminish. (in my case)

Also, Hi

Modifié par Sharky-chan, 26 février 2012 - 05:49 .

[Blackfire447]

I imagine it wasn't intended, but its not like you do the damage AND don't lose your shield, so I'd say its fine. It still has its drawbacks. (Since you don't do damage while doing it)

[Fox544]

It would be funny/sad if this bug became a feature.

Funny because it reminds me of the Tribes 1 skiing glitch but was so insanely popular with fans the devs added it to all the sequels and made it a core part of the game.

Sad because I'm sorry, my opinion is Vanguards are OP as is without a God-mode mechanic. Reloading is one thing since it doesn't improve your skill but being untouchable is an entire other conversation.

Then again it doesn't really matter in a PvE co-op game.

[The Spamming Troll]

the satirist wrote...

micromanagement ftw! I wonder how long he can last before getting spasms in his fingers.

Doom Lich wrote...

Seriously... And it looks badass when your doing it. Seems like that needs to be hotpatched.

Why would they. It's not a bug, it's feature. Same for the claymore reload trick.

lol and monkeys fly out of my but.

[Butthead11]

Random Jerkface wrote...

tomcruisejr wrote...

Just don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously,

I don't expect anyone to take the MP seriously, it's a damn game. Someone's exploiting a loophole? JESUS CHRIST SOMEONE CALL THE MOTHERF*CKIN POLICE.

Yes let's just let everyone cheat, it's just a game who cares. 

May the best hacker get the highest n7 rating.
and May the best nova canceler solo gold the most times. 

[Eire Icon]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Please tell me I'm not the only person who thought of another type of faking when I saw this.

You are not. I had several witty comments lined up as I hurried into the thread, only to discover that everyone was getting wound up about "The Rules" - kinda spoiled the mood

[MachineUK]

I would just leave the game if someone just kept spamming it. I play with vanguard a lot, but this game play style would be a cheap move for me, too repetitive also.......