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I liked him. He was cool and professional and well aware that his personal crap should in no way supersede the mission. His suspicions were reasonable (not trusting the space ninja & and wanting to space the T-1000 that seemed to have been hunting Shep), his requests were honorable (putting the remains of his dad to rest, even though he was a dead beat and volunteering for the suicide mission on the suicide mission, because that's what special operators really do), and his motivation actually made sense. Dude is a hero soldier. Of course he's on board.

All the hate he gets? Call it what you want, but ain't because 'he's boring'. 'I like to shoot stuff' Grunt is boring. This is something else.

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HiddenKING wrote...

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Jacob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaidan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tali


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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I said I was paraphrasing, no need to be an ass. "Not even he could screw up what he taught me." There, you happy?

And tone of voice goes a long way in describing personality, and nuances thereof. Jacob was MORE than willing to let his father rot on that planet, and did nothing but ridicule and lecture him the entire time they were there. So yes, I still believe he did resent his father.

You think he's great, I can't stand him, and thankfully won't have to because I'm getting Kaidan back. Someone with more personality than an Ymir mech.


Calm down, I didn't insult you, or call you names. No one's being an @ss.

I think you're forgetting that Jacob's father killed off the other officers, and set up his own private harem of mentally deficient women. Can you really call it "resenting his father" when he is willing to let him rot for that?


And, no I don't think Jacob is just great. I don't really care for any character in the ME series. But it's absurd to say he has daddy issues.


Never said I wasn't calm, its difficult to judge tone  online.

I didn't forget anything; and I still think resentment was there, his complete lack of emotion talking about his father prior to the mission, and then his complete lack of wanting to actually resolve anything when he was there, all say "I have a problem with you." In other words, issues with his father; daddy issues. I never said it was a driving force behind his character like with Miranda.

So its "Absurd," depending on your  opinion; which is what this thread's about; opinions.

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C9316 wrote...

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Everyone Else>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TIM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tali/Jacob


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Nah I don't hate him. He's a good dude at heart. Like him better than Ashley and Miranda.

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I like Jacob.
Not my favorite character but it's hard to dislike him.

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Seker666 wrote...

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HiddenKING wrote...

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Everyone Else>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jacob>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Miranda/Kaidan/Liara


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BentOrgy wrote...

Never said I wasn't calm, its difficult to judge tone  online.

I didn't forget anything; and I still think resentment was there, his complete lack of emotion talking about his father prior to the mission, and then his complete lack of wanting to actually resolve anything when he was there, all say "I have a problem with you." In other words, issues with his father; daddy issues. I never said it was a driving force behind his character like with Miranda.

So its "Absurd," depending on your  opinion; which is what this thread's about; opinions.


It seemed to me less like he didn't want to resolve it, than he put it in Shepard's hands.

But, since we're arguing opinions now, we'll get nowhere.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

jamiekas wrote...

Jacob is just boring. Could there have been a worse sole human male romance option for FemShep in ME2?

Even if he isn't your boyfriend, I still don't like Jacob. He's uninteresting and unoriginal. And his body shape looks weird in that outfit...


The relationship with Jacob requires you to push past your own petty insecurities. I admit, I was a little put off when he basically told my femshep to GTFO in the beginning... BUT, when I tried again and gave him a chance, he proved to be a deep and feeling person, with a great deal of sensitivity and insight. He offered honest love and care, and was within his right to demand the same. He was the ONLY LI in ME2 that asked femshep how she was dealing with things and allowed her a chance to vent.

Jacob gets beaten over the head with the same label of "boring" that Kaidan gets. Yet, it is my assertion that both characters have much to offer for those who dare to dig deeper, and do indeed discover the prize of romancing these lovely humans.


The problem with Jacob's romance seems to be Shepard, not Jacob himself.


I agree. Shepards's tone of voice when speaking to Jacob was...:pinched: Yet, if you can get past that, there is so much goodness to be found.

@C9 Why, thank you for fixing my quotes. :P

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

It seemed to me less like he didn't want to resolve it, than he put it in Shepard's hands.


Or he put it in Shepard's hands just because it is RPG where PC is Shepard?Image IPB

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Flashflame58 wrote...

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Refund. Guy.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ghandi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone Else>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jacob>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Miranda/Kaidan/Liara


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Never said I wasn't calm, its difficult to judge tone  online.

I didn't forget anything; and I still think resentment was there, his complete lack of emotion talking about his father prior to the mission, and then his complete lack of wanting to actually resolve anything when he was there, all say "I have a problem with you." In other words, issues with his father; daddy issues. I never said it was a driving force behind his character like with Miranda.

So its "Absurd," depending on your  opinion; which is what this thread's about; opinions.


It seemed to me less like he didn't want to resolve it, than he put it in Shepard's hands.

But, since we're arguing opinions now, we'll get nowhere.


You're right; arguing about opinions never goes anywhere, yet you started this by stepping on mine. :huh:

I don't *hate* Jacob, I just think its fitting they put him in the armory; because to me, he's just another gun.

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I like Jacob alright. Just not quite as compelling as a number of the other characters. The femshep "lets get it on" attitude was striking. And he pretty much tells her to back the hell off which was novel. But I basically blew him off after that. The fact that his game stats are so useless means you're gimping yourself to travel with him and I think that hurts his overall popularity. I actually got a lot of humanity out of odd statements characters made when traveling with you. Zaeed makes a comment in Jack's loyalty mission that makes it sound like he has a piece of soul left. It totally made him more 3 dimensional for me and he was already one of my favorite ME2 characters. Maybe Jacob has some great one-liners but I'd never hear them because I'd never take him planetside.

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Stop abusing my comment!

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BentOrgy wrote...

You're right; arguing about opinions never goes anywhere, yet you started this by stepping on mine. :huh:

I don't *hate* Jacob, I just think its fitting they put him in the armory; because to me, he's just another gun.


I don't think "daddy issues" is an opinion, either someone has them or not. But you seem insistent that it is, so I won't argue with you any more.


And, you DID say you "couldn't stand him." But whatev.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Many lols were had over that.

I actually think I like him more because of just how unbelievably awesome awful it is.

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Fortlowe wrote...

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Seker666 wrote...

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Refund.Guy.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ghandi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone

Else>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dirt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Modifié par Seker666, 25 février 2012 - 06:15 .


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Enough with the quote "art", please.

This thread is moving to the character forum, where it belongs.

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Maj.Pain007 wrote...

Not very interesting. At least Kaiden talked about his days in a Biotic school and complained about the implants.


And Jacob can speak with Shepard about her. Kaidan talked about himself most of the time.
I really like Jacob :) He replaced Kaidan in my Shep's life.

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Would you like Jacob if he had blonde hair, blue eyes and a fake Arnold accent?

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MacDuffin wrote...

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You humans are all racist!

Surprised it took this long for racist to pop up.


Relax, it's a BSN meme.


Bekkael wrote...
The relationship with Jacob requires you to push past your own petty insecurities. I admit, I was a little put off when he basically told my femshep to GTFO in the beginning... BUT, when I tried again and gave him a chance, he proved to be a deep and feeling person, with a great deal of sensitivity and insight. He offered honest love and care, and was within his right to demand the same. He was the ONLY LI in ME2 that asked femshep how she
was dealing with things and allowed her a chance to vent.


Omg, I like you.



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Cthulhu42 wrote...
Many lols were had over that.

I actually think I like him more because of just how unbelievably awesome awful it is.


God damn it, really hating you two right now. I'm assuming this is from the leaked script? Never mind, don't want to know. :(


FluffyScarf wrote...
Would you like Jacob if he had blonde hair, blue eyes and a fake Arnold accent?


Lagrim. Bethesduh. Bethtard. Did I get them all?

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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Jacob is just.... meh... wallpaper paste.....

Nothing to hate or love him for, he just fills space.

Doesn't really give you any new background lore which is something that helps Kaidan's case with him giving you codex info on how biotics work and the early days of human biotics.

So basically just mehhhhhhhhh


So your view of characters is based on how much they sound like a codex?

*scratches head*

okay...

This is another classic BSN thing people do. If a character doesn't provide lots of lore and information, they become "pointless" and "contribute nothing to the in-game universe"; if they do, they're a "walking codex". It's another no-win situation.


Not quite, it's more that Jacob really has nothing else really going for him.

He seems more like a normal soldier on the line, which could have been an opportunity for further exploring the alliance military and more about the cerberus military.

And Jacob is rather pointless, you can take just about any average joe "Sergeant" and replace him and he would be about the same, he really doesn't have anything that makes him Jacob.

*edit* Just saw this got moved to this forum, I'm getting the hell out of dodge.

Modifié par Ellkol1138, 25 février 2012 - 06:31 .


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 Why are threads like this still allowed how silly are you to say-
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I don't like Jack but am I making a thread about it ............no