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[Sabresandiego]

Overall Rankings

Tier 1: Best classes
28.5 Salarian Infiltrator 
27 Geth Infiltrator
27 Human Infiltrator 
27 Quarian Infiltrator
27 Human Vanguard  
26.5 Asari Adept 
  
Tier 2: Excellent classes
26 Salarian Engineer 
26 Geth Engineer 
25 Drell Adept 
25 Drell Vanguard 
25 Human Soldier
24.5 Asari Justicar 
24.5 Asari Vanguard 
24.5 Human Sentinel 
24.5 Human Adept 
 
Tier 3: Good classes 
22.5 Human Engineer 
22 Quarian Engineer 
21.5 Turian Sentinel 
21.5 Krogan Battlemaster 
19.5 Turian Soldier 

Tier 4: Decent classes
17.5 Krogan Soldier 
17.5 Batarian Soldier
15 Batarian Sentinel  
15 Krogan Sentinel

Cerberus
10 Salarian Infiltrator 
10 Asari Vanguard
9.5 Asari Adept
9 Geth Infiltrator
9 Human Vanguard
9 Quarian Infiltrator
9 Human Infiltrator
8.5 Salarian Engineer 
8 Geth Engineer
8 Drell Vanguard
8 Human Soldier 
8 Human Adept
8 Drell Adept
8 Asari Justicar 
7.5 Human Engineer 
7.5 Human Sentinel
7 Krogan Battlemaster 
7 Turian Sentinel
6.5 Turian Soldier 
6.5 Quarian Engineer
6 Krogan Soldier
6 Batarian Soldier
5 Batarian Sentinel
5 Krogan Sentinel

Geth
10 Salarian Engineer 
10 Geth Engineer   
9.5 Quarian Infiltrator 
9 Human Vanguard  
9 Salarian Infiltrator 
9 Geth Infiltrator 
9 Human Infiltrator 
8.5 Asari Adept
8.5 Human Sentinel 
8 Human Adept 
8 Drell Vanguard
8 Human Engineer 
8 Human Soldier
7.5 Turian Sentinel
7.5 Quarian Engineer 
7.5 Krogan Battlemaster    
7 Asari Vanguard  
7 Drell Adept
7 Asari Justicar
6.5 Turian Soldier 
5.5 Batarian Soldier
5.5 Krogan Soldier 
5 Batarian Sentinel
5 Krogan Sentinel 

Reaper
10 Drell Adept  
9.5 Asari Justicar
9 Drell Vanguard 
9 Human Infiltrator 
9 Geth Infiltrator 
9 Salarian Infiltrator
9 Human Soldier   
9 Human Vanguard   
8.5 Quarian Infiltrator 
8.5 Human Adept 
8.5 Human Sentinel 
8.5 Asari Adept
8 Geth Engineer    
8 Quarian Engineer 
7.5 Asari Vanguard 
7 Krogan Battlemaster
7 Salarian Engineer 
7 Human Engineer 
7 Turian Sentinel
6.5 Turian Soldier 
6 Krogan Soldier
6 Batarian Soldier
5 Batarian Sentinel
5 Krogan Sentinel 

Infiltrator

Human
Cerberus: 9
Geth: 9
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: Claymore Shotgun, Hurricane Submachine Gun

Salarian
Cerberus: 10
Geth: 9.5 
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: Black Widow Sniper Rifle, Widow Sniper Rifle

Quarian
Cerberus: 9
Geth: 10
Reapers: 8
My Preferred Weapons: Black Widow Sniper Rifle, Valiant Sniper Rifle

Geth (Havent Unlocked This class Yet, Rating Is A Guess)
Cerberus: 9
Geth: 10
Reapers: 8
My Preferred Weapons: Geth Plasma Shotgun, Javelin 

Vanguard

Human
Cerberus: 9
Geth: 10 
Reapers: 8
My Preferred Weapons: Falcon Grenade Launcher, Talon Heavy Pistol

Asari
Cerberus: 10
Geth: 7
Reapers: 7
My Preferred Weapons: Paladin Heavy Pistol, Carnifex Heavy Pistol

Drell
Cerberus: 8
Geth : 8
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: Geth Plasma Shotgun, Falcon Grenade Launcher

Krogan (Havent Unlocked This class Yet, Rating Is A Guess)
Cerberus: 8
Geth: 8
Reapers: 7
My Preferred Weapons: Claymore Shotgun, Wraith Shotgun  

Adept

Human
Cerberus: 8
Geth: 7 
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: Hornet Submachinegun, Carnifex Heavy Pistol

Asari
Cerberus: 10
Geth: 8
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: Paladin Heavy Pistol, Carnifex Heavy Pistol

Drell
Cerberus: 8
Geth: 7
Reapers: 10
My Preferred Weapons: Geth Plasma Shotgun, Falcon Grenade Launcher

Justicar (Havent Unlocked This class Yet, Rating Is A Guess)
Cerberus: 8
Geth: 7
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: ?

Engineer

Human
Cerberus: 7
Geth: 8 
Reapers: 6
My Preferred Weapons: Falcon Grenade Launcher, Scorpion Heavy Pistol

Salarian
Cerberus: 8
Geth: 10 
Reapers: 6
My Preferred Weapons: Widow Sniper Rifle, Scorpion Heavy Pistol

Quarian
Cerberus: 6
Geth: 7 
Reapers: 7
My Preferred Weapons: Hornet Submachine Gun, Hurricane Submachine Gun

Geth (Havent Unlocked This class Yet, Rating Is A Guess)
Cerberus: 9
Geth: 10
Reapers: 8
My Preferred Weapons: Geth Plasma Shotgun, Javelin  

Sentinel

Human
Cerberus: 8
Geth: 8
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: Falcon Grenade Launcher, Scorpion Heavy Pistol

Turian
Cerberus: 6
Geth: 8 
Reapers: 6
My Preferred Weapons: Falcon Grenade Launcher, Scorpion Heavy Pistol

Krogan
Cerberus: 5
Geth: 4 
Reapers: 5
My Preferred Weapons: Striker Assault Rifle, Claymore Shotgun

Batarian
Cerberus: 5
Geth: 4
Reaper: 4
My Preferred Weapons: Saber Assault Rifle, Claymore Shotgun 

Soldier

Human
Cerberus: 7
Geth: 7 
Reapers: 9
My Preferred Weapons: Striker Assault Rifle, Saber Assault Rifle

Turian
Cerberus: 6
Geth: 7 
Reapers: 6
My Preferred Weapons: Revenant Assault Rifle, Hornet Submachine Gun

Krogan
Cerberus: 6
Geth: 5
Reapers: 6
My Preferred Weapons: Striker Assault Rifle, Claymore Shotgun

Batarian
Cerberus: 6
Geth: 5
Reapers: 6
My Preferred Weapons: Geth Plasma Shotgun, Claymore Shotgun

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 18 avril 2012 - 11:10 .

[SNascimento]

I think if Asari adepts are alone in the top. Especially if are considering effectiveness = score.

[Thunderfurby]

I'd give Human vanguard a 10 if you know how to abuse Nova for immortality.

And Drell Vanguard I'd place at 7, he is weak but cluster grenades are godly if you play it defensively, it's not an offensive race.

[Sabresandiego]

Thunderfurby wrote...

I'd give Human vanguard a 10 if you know how to abuse Nova for immortality.

And Drell Vanguard I'd place at 7, he is weak but cluster grenades are godly if you play it defensively, it's not an offensive race.

Nova cannot be abused for immortality because u can be staggered and there are vulnerabilty frames within the chain.

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 15 mars 2012 - 10:21 .

[Shadow of Terror]

The ratings are not too bad actually.

[Luxuis_]

Great rating but i would give the Human Engineer: 9

[Luxuis_]

Double post sorry:blush:

Modifié par Luxuis , 25 février 2012 - 07:52 .

[Kronner]

Human Adept: 6 - not that good in the latter rounds
Asari Adept: 10 - Stasis. Throw. Insane.

Human Soldier: 3 - Useless class on any difficulty IMHO.
Krogan Soldier: 8 - Good against phantoms, good bodyguard for squishy classes.

Human Sentinel: 5 - Mediocre.
Turian Sentinel: 5 - Ditto.

Human Engineer: 8 - Solid CC, but squishy.
Quarian Engineer: 7 - Slightly worse than human.

Human Vanguard: 10 - Almost unkillable due to Charge/Nova spam. (i.e. NOT the ridiculous Nova cancel, normal power spam is good enough thanks to invincibility during animations)
Drell Vanguard: 5 - Significantly worse than human.

Human Infiltrator: 9 - Cloak.
Salarian Infiltrator: 10 - Cloak AND Energy Drain.

Basically, power spam is the way to go. Weapon balance is non-existant. Pistols are OP compared to other weapons. I wish this improves for the final release, but I doubt it. 

Modifié par Kronner, 25 février 2012 - 08:15 .

[Sabresandiego]

Kronner wrote...

Human Adept: 6 - not that good in the latter rounds
Asari Adept: 10 - Stasis. Throw. Insane.

Human Soldier: 3 - Useless class on any difficulty IMHO.
Krogan Soldier: 8 - Good against phantoms, good bodyguard for squishy classes.

Human Sentinel: 5 - Mediocre.
Turian Sentinel: 5 - Ditto.

Human Engineer: 8 - Solid CC, but squishy.
Quarian Engineer: 7 - Slightly worse than human.

Human Vanguard: 10 - Almost unkillable due to Charge/Nova spam. (i.e. NOT the ridiculous Nova cancel, normal power spam is good enough thanks to invincibility during animations)
Drell Vanguard: 5 - Significantly worse than human.

Human Infiltrator: 9 - Cloak.
Salarian Infiltrator: 10 - Cloak AND Energy Drain.

Basically, power spam is the way to go. Weapon balance is non-existant. Pistols are OP compared to other weapons. I wish this improves for the final release, but I doubt it. 

Good ratings, practically the same as mine. Overall your ratings are very good, based on the overall value each class has to a team, however I based my ratings more on score potential. Unfortunately you do not get any score for taking damage or drawing enemy fire, and on gold a vanguard cannot compete with an asari adept or infiltrator for score especially if they are on the same team, because the vanguard takes most of the heat and has to survivate meanwhile the adept and infiltrator are left ignored in the back to rack up monster scores while unthreatened.

[dw99027]

Human Engineer deserves at least a 9. Chain Overload every 2.5 seconds and a Carnifex shot to 2 heads if you're fast enough can clear waves quickly. Squishiness is circumvented by not maxing Incinerate( not as helpful for the human) and getting some Fitness. 700 health and shields is enough unless your teammates allow you to be overrun.

And Vanguard is either a 10 or a 3, not all ME players have CoD trained reflexes. It's definitely a 10 in SP , though, with the ability to turn on a dime using the pause menu.

[Hyunsai]

Kronner wrote...Human Sentinel: 5 - Mediocre.
Turian Sentinel: 5 - Ditto.

I can't agree with Turian sentinel getting the same rating as human. They've got way  more shield and any class with the godlike Overload is at least at 7.

[IlluminaZer0]

dw99027 wrote...
And Vanguard is either a 10 or a 3, not all ME players have CoD trained reflexes. It's definitely a 10 in SP , though, with the ability to turn on a dime using the pause menu.

Using auto-target does not require special reflexes. You can move the camera while using Nova -- Or cancel nova with roll while moving the camera if you do not see a valid target.

I also agree that there is no way that Turian Sentinel = Human Sentinel. Human Sentinel is almost joke class status, Turian Sentinel is one of the better classes.

Human Soldier is underrated IMO. Too many play Soldier as high weight -- Human Soldier is meant to be played with Adrenaline Rush/Concussive Shot spam. Only Krogan Soldier should be played high weight.

Modifié par IlluminaZer0, 25 février 2012 - 10:54 .

[dw99027]

It requires good reflexes, though. A person with good reflexes still screws up from time to time. Screwing up with the Vanguard leads to death on Gold.

[Kronner]

Hyunsai wrote...

Kronner wrote...Human Sentinel: 5 - Mediocre.
Turian Sentinel: 5 - Ditto.

I can't agree with Turian sentinel getting the same rating as human. They've got way  more shield and any class with the godlike Overload is at least at 7.

Turian can't dodge, but has Overload. Human has throw and can dodge. I think they are about the same.

[We Tigers]

Kronner wrote...

Hyunsai wrote...

Kronner wrote...Human Sentinel: 5 - Mediocre.
Turian Sentinel: 5 - Ditto.

I can't agree with Turian sentinel getting the same rating as human. They've got way  more shield and any class with the godlike Overload is at least at 7.

Turian can't dodge, but has Overload. Human has throw and can dodge. I think they are about the same.

Overload is probably the second best support/CC power after stasis.  You can chain to give it a much wider "splash" range than throw, and it can take shields off any non-Atlas enemy in one shot if you upgrade it correctly.  Also, Turian Sentinel has higher health/shields, a larger weight bonus (up to 40 instead of 30), and gets weapon stability to go with all of its weapon damage bonuses.  The dodge is good, but Overload + the superior passive makes it a much better killer than the human sentinel, even though being able to toss a throw every 2 seconds even with tech armor up is really nice.

Overall ranks...I'd say Asari Adept is strongest, and then there's a group of Salarian infiltrator, Turian Sentinel, and Human Vanguard.  Krogan Soldier can get there if you spec it for melee and defense.  The other classes are all fun, but those seem to be the superior versions of each class.

Modifié par We Tigers, 25 février 2012 - 11:44 .

[dw99027]

You mentioned Overload as a superior ability yet forgot to inlude Human Engineer in your top classes list, haha.

[Tangster]

Human Soldier: 5, not an easy class, but can be effective.
Krogan Soldier: 8, tough as titanium plating.

Human Sentinel: 5, damned difficult compared to most, loses a great deal of effectiveness in the step from silver to gold.
Turian Sentinel: 8, overload + better weapon capabilities.

Human Engineer: 8, great for support but delicate. Power spam.
Quarian Engineer: 6, same as human, but lacks overload, cryo explosions not as effective as chain overload on gold.

Human Vanguard: 9, don't make a bad charge and you're golden(no pun intended)
Drell Vanguard: 4, too fragile, relegates a CQC class to support, which is better handled with others.

Didn't touch the adept and infiltrator classes, since everyone knows what they're like(beastly), except human adept, which might prove to be very powerful in the final game with a working final evolution of singularity.

Modifié par Tangster, 26 février 2012 - 12:00 .

[Simbacca]

Kronner wrote...

Human Soldier: 3 - Useless class on any difficulty IMHO.

You know I thought this the whole time this demo been live until I built one today.  Avenger X rifle only and Concussive Shot with radius.  Endless gunfire and staggers every 1.5 seconds.  Only used AR when planning a long run or sometimes when shooting an Atlas.

Playing it feels most like the Turian, just replace Avenger X with Mattock X, Concussive Shot with Overload, and Adrenaline Rush with Tech Armor.

Modifié par Simbacca, 26 février 2012 - 12:12 .

[WarGriffin]

Should there be three scores?

anyway, The Drell classes-well any squishy class in general- are at a huge disadvantage as Gold loves to spam Phantoms, and Atlas.

Soldier classes are as good as thier weapons

[AreleX]

kronner's list is pretty much spot-on.

asari adept is god

salarian infiltrator is his (hers? its?) only begotten son

human infiltrator is the holy spirit.

that's what i'd call the 'big three'. you could make a case for vanguard since it's basically immortal so long as it can charge, nova cancel or no nova cancel (i do it on occasion to amuse myself because it looks and is ridiculous)

that's really all that matters, as far as gold goes. if you want to be thorough, i agree with kronner's list up until the placement of turian sentinel.

[TexasToast712]

Asari gets a 8. Yes she has stasis but she is very squishy and without another to race to draw aggro she goes down fast.

Modifié par TexasToast712, 26 février 2012 - 12:39 .

[SNascimento]

TexasToast712 wrote...

Asari gets a 8. Yes she has stasis but she is very squishy and without another to race to draw aggro she goes down fast.

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No she does not. A good adept can handle pretty much anything by himself... the only problem is being overwhelmed. 
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that is why I don't think any other class can match an Asari adept... I don't see an infiltrator handling any enemy as effortless as an Asari does. 

Modifié par SNascimento, 26 février 2012 - 12:43 .

[TexasToast712]

SNascimento wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Asari gets a 8. Yes she has stasis but she is very squishy and without another to race to draw aggro she goes down fast.

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No she does not. A good adept can handle pretty much anything by himself... the only problem is being overwhelmed. 

After being gold several times I can confidently call your statement absurd. Asari need someone to get shot at so they can cast their powers without fear of getting overrun.

[No Snakes Alive]

Top tier: Asari Adept, Human Engineer, Turian Sentinel, Salarian Infiltrator

Not quite top tier: Krogan Soldier, Human Vanguard, Human Infiltrator

The rest tier: The rest of the classes

Absolute crap tier: Drell Vanguard

[SNascimento]

TexasToast712 wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Asari gets a 8. Yes she has stasis but she is very squishy and without another to race to draw aggro she goes down fast.

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No she does not. A good adept can handle pretty much anything by himself... the only problem is being overwhelmed. 

After being gold several times I can confidently call your statement absurd. Asari need someone to get shot at so they can cast their powers without fear of getting overrun.

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I will have to disagree with you on that.
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One time I was playing gold, lost in wave 8. I scored 25k and was second. 
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An asari adept scored 140k, that was pretty much twice the amount of points the other three of us had combined. That was more than one time she was the only one left standing and pretty much won the round by herself. 

Modifié par SNascimento, 26 février 2012 - 12:55 .