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[Sabresandiego]

Even the krogans can be very effective on gold when played well, and using great weapons like the GPS.

[We Tigers]

I didn't realize this was a "who can deal the most damage/score most points in a vacuum" list. Good for that purpose, but doesn't really speak to the synergies that certain classes can achieve in the actual game.

[zhk3r]

Infiltrator

> Human // Cerberus: 9 // Reaper: 9 // Geth 8
> Salarian // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper: 9 // Geth 9
> Quarian // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 8 // Geth 10
> Weapons // Black Widow // M-98 Widow // Claymore

Vanguard 

> Human // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper: 9 // Geth: 10
> Asari // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper 7 // Geth: 6 
> Drell // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 9 // Geth: 7
> Weapons // Claymore // Falcon // Scimitar

Adept

> Human // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 10 // Geth: 9
> Asari // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper: 10 // Geth: 9
> Drell // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 10 // Geth: 8
> Weapons //  Geth Plasma Shotgun // Carnifex // Hornet

Engineer

> Human // Cerberus: 7 // Reaper: 5 // Geth: 10
> Salarian // Cerberus: 9 // Reaper: 7 // Geth: 10
> Quarian // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 7 // Geth: 6
> Weapons // Hornet // Carnifex // Geth Plasma Shotgun

Sentinel

> Human // Cerberus: 7 // Reaper: 9 // Geth: 6
> Turian // Cerberus: 7 // Reaper: 7 // Geth: 7
> Krogan // Cerberus 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 5
> Weapons // Claymore // Geth Plasma Shotgun // Carnifex

Soldier

> Human // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 5
> Turian // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 5
> Krogan // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 4
> Weapons // Claymore // Revenant // Mattock

Modifié par zhk3r, 09 avril 2012 - 03:29 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

zhk3r wrote...

Infiltrator

> Human // Cerberus: 9 // Reaper: 9 // Geth 8
> Salarian // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper: 9 // Geth 9
> Quarian // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 8 // Geth 10
> Weapons // Black Widow // M-98 Widow // Claymore

Vanguard 

> Human // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper: 9 // Geth: 10
> Asari // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper 7 // Geth: 6 
> Drell // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 9 // Geth: 7
> Weapons // Claymore // Falcon // Scimitar

Adept

> Human // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 10 // Geth: 9
> Asari // Cerberus: 10 // Reaper: 10 // Geth: 9
> Drell // Cerberus: 8 // Reaper: 10 // Geth: 8
> Weapons //  Geth Plasma Shotgun // Carnifex // Hornet

Engineer

> Human // Cerberus: 7 // Reaper: 5 // Geth: 10
> Salarian // Cerberus: 9 // Reaper: 7 // Geth: 10
> Quarian // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 7 // Geth: 6
> Weapons // Hornet // Carnifex // Geth Plasma Shotgun

Sentinel

> Human // Cerberus: 7 // Reaper: 9 // Geth: 6
> Turian // Cerberus: 7 // Reaper: 7 // Geth: 7
> Krogan // Cerberus 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 5
> Weapons // Claymore // Geth Plasma Shotgun // Carnifex

Soldier

> Human // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 5
> Turian // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 5
> Krogan // Cerberus: 5 // Reaper: 4 // Geth: 4
> Weapons // Claymore // Revenant // Mattock

Again geth are by far the hardest enemy to face as a krogan. Their reaper/cerebrus score should always be higher than the geth score. No matter what weapon/Build you use. 

[AnthonyF27]

Human Sentinel and Asari Adept are virtually the same except against Cerberus (Stasis for Phantoms is huge). Warp + Throw all day. Human Sentinel also seems to take longer to die. When I'm Asari Adept I tend to die much quicker.

With my Human Sentinel I don't upgrade the Tech Armor at all (I actually used a stat reset card to put it to 0) and filled up the rest of the powers.

I don't find Stasis to be all that useful against other enemies.  I use it a decent amount, but it's not like it works on any boss enemies except Phantoms.

Modifié par AnthonyF27, 09 avril 2012 - 03:40 .

[zhk3r]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Again geth are by far the hardest enemy to face as a krogan. Their reaper/cerebrus score should always be higher than the geth score. No matter what weapon/Build you use. 

Just my opinion. I thought I'd love Krogan, but personally I can't seem to master them at all.

[We Tigers]

AnthonyF27 wrote...
Human Sentinel also seems to take longer to die. When I'm Asari Adept I tend to die much quicker.

That's probably because, as you said, you max the Sentinel's fitness.  I expect you're doing the standard 6/6/6/5/3 build on the Asari, which is awesome, but leaves you at 625/625.  You probably also get the +15% to shield recharge speed bonus at rank 5 fitness.  Finally, the human sentinel's dodges and rolls don't drain barrier like the Asari's do.

So, yes.  Your sentinel does take longer to die!  If you're not going to use stasis much, then the Human Sentinel is actually a slightly more survivable bomber as a result.

[We Tigers]

Hey, I just noticed something else a little silly here in the expanded rankings.  You're giving massive weapons to your engineers!  Of course an engineer is going to be garbage if it's carrying a Claymore or Widow that actually drops it into negative cooldown.   Power spam is a huge part of an engineer's role, and one overload or energy drain every 8 seconds isn't nearly enough to really unleash those classes.

[Sabresandiego]

Updated the ratings, and added the 2 batarians. I do not have the other 3 new characters yet. This weeks balance changes improved human soldiers quite a bit, as did the addition of the striker.

[Ben Gadura]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Updated the ratings, and added the 2 batarians. I do not have the other 3 new characters yet. This weeks balance changes improved human soldiers quite a bit, as did the addition of the striker.

So why do you think batarians are so bad? I don't have any of the new characters and i'm quite curious about their strenghts/weakenesses.

[Sabresandiego]

Its too early to give a solid rating to batarians. But my initial impression is that they are worse then krogans for gold, and are some of the worst characters in the game. I could be wrong, but need more playtime to be sure.

[screamin_jesus]

I've found batarian soldier to be amazing vs reapers due to the blade attack. It takes down banshees and brutes super easily.

[Sabresandiego]

My blade attacks never seem to do much damage, probably need to test it more.

[Sabresandiego]

Added in preliminary ratings for new classes.

[PaperAlien]

This thread (along with the one rating weapons) just shows how bad the balance in this game is.

[Sabresandiego]

Balance isn't horrible, but it could be better. They improve balance every week with balance changes.

[PaperAlien]

I agree. Hopefully they're at least working on fixing infiltrators, the game's AI is simply not designed to combat tactical cloak.

[Sabresandiego]

Well they made enemies, especially geth, better able to see through cloak. Right now the game balance is quite good, except for the classes which cannot dodge/roll

[Skittls]

Do you think you might be able to put a note for updates? I just checked again and it says you updated it about a minute ago, but I can't for the life of me figure out what changed. There is just too much information to be able to pick out small changes

[cuzIMgood]

Yup new classes look pretty well added.  I think we all knew the batarians were going to be horrible when we heard they had no dodge ability.  I don't know if I would consider the geth infiltrator quite as good as the quarian against geth though.

[Elecbender]

I've played the Geth Infiltrator quite a bit on Gold so here's what I would rank it effective against:

Cerberus: 8
Geth: 9
Reaper: 10

Since EVERYONE in Cerberus can shoot with precision and lethality, you have to be extra careful.

Its much more lenient against Reapers.

[Diablerist666]

Ok, with the update I can finally agree on Human Adepts rating.

[Sabresandiego]

Moved geth engineer into best classes category.

[Sabresandiego]

Got the krogan battlemaster vanguard, hes much better than I expected. Definitely the best krogan. Updated list

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 12 avril 2012 - 03:43 .

[Skittls]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Moved geth engineer into best classes category.

Thank you for giving the Geth Engineer the credit it deserves. It isn't the best out there, but personally, I love it.