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[ZombiesNBacon]

Sabresandiego wrote...


Reapers 

1. Drell Adept 
2. Human Sentinel  
3. Asari Adept 
4. Drell Vanguard  
5. Human Vanguard 

To avoid having to dig through this thread can you explain why these classes placed above Infiltrator on Reapers?

Modifié par ZombiesNBacon, 15 mars 2012 - 06:48 .

[TheKillerAngel]

Biotic explosions.

[Sabresandiego]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Biotic explosions.

Exactly, and cluster grenades.

[snfonseka]

What is this "shockwave radius bug"?

[Sabresandiego]

If you take the 4th evolution "radius" on shockwave, the ability stops working mid game.

[ZombiesNBacon]

Sabresandiego wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Biotic explosions.

Exactly, and cluster grenades.

What about them? BE is good against Cerberus/Geth too so what makes them even better against Reapers?

[Sabresandiego]

Infiltrators have a slightly harder time vs reapers, but are still a top tier class.

[ZombiesNBacon]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Infiltrators have a slightly harder time vs reapers, but are still a top tier class.

Why? Because they have more HP or something? w/e I'll take your word for it. Not like I ever play against Gold Reapers anyway. I'll stick with SI for now.

[Sabresandiego]

Because reapers rush your position

[Sabresandiego]

Alot of people think I over-rated the drells, so I added this short video to show you how effective they can be.

Video

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 16 mars 2012 - 02:22 .

[Welder0]

Nicely done - stick and move.

[Sp3c7eR]

Nobody goes for an Infiltrator build that's solely focused on destroying armor, that's why Infiltrators vs reapers on Gold might seem less effective. But think about this: black widow w/ penetration mod, armor piercing ammo on a Quarian infiltrator with maxed incinerate. It would absolutely destroy brutes/ravagers and Banshees once they're down to armor. Pity very few people actually spec properly when playing vs Reapers.

[Sabresandiego]

Sp3c7eR wrote...

Nobody goes for an Infiltrator build that's solely focused on destroying armor, that's why Infiltrators vs reapers on Gold might seem less effective. But think about this: black widow w/ penetration mod, armor piercing ammo on a Quarian infiltrator with maxed incinerate. It would absolutely destroy brutes/ravagers and Banshees once they're down to armor. Pity very few people actually spec properly when playing vs Reapers.

Quarian infiltrators have sticky grenade, not incinerate =). Infiltrators are top notch against anything really. Human infiltrators can do an anti-reaper build like you describe, with cryo blast.

Modifié par Sabresandiego, 16 mars 2012 - 02:41 .

[Trakarg]

Note how all the top classes are power spammers rather than weapons-based ones.  Weapons need a buff.  And then perhaps a reduction on infiltrator cloak damage so they don't get too insane.

[Sabresandiego]

The 3 best classes in the game, are all infiltrators, which are weapon users. The only weapons which need a buff are automatic weapons which not only do less damage then burst weapons, but expose you to return fire.

[Sp3c7eR]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Sp3c7eR wrote...

Nobody goes for an Infiltrator build that's solely focused on destroying armor, that's why Infiltrators vs reapers on Gold might seem less effective. But think about this: black widow w/ penetration mod, armor piercing ammo on a Quarian infiltrator with maxed incinerate. It would absolutely destroy brutes/ravagers and Banshees once they're down to armor. Pity very few people actually spec properly when playing vs Reapers.

Quarian infiltrators have sticky grenade, not incinerate =). Infiltrators are top notch against anything really. Human infiltrators can do an anti-reaper build like you describe, with cryo blast.

Yes, that's what I meant, got it confused with Quarian engineer. Human w/ cryo blast for weakening armor would work pretty well. 

[GodlessPaladin]

Trakarg wrote...

Note how all the top classes are power spammers rather than weapons-based ones.  Weapons need a buff.  And then perhaps a reduction on infiltrator cloak damage so they don't get too insane.

Uh, no.  See:  Infiltrators.

Rapid fire weapons need buffs, though.  They are both less damaging and less safe to use.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 mars 2012 - 07:29 .

[Nocturnalfox]

Quarian has dropped a few against Geth imo with the nerf. However I think it should rise up a few in Reaper. It isn't as bad as most people make out, I regularly get to wave 8 on gold with QI.

[iNikki]

Can someone explain why the Salarian Infiltrator is good? I haven't seen it in action

[Nocturnalfox]

It has tac cloak, enery drain (Which drains enemy shields and gives it to SI) and skills to make sniper rifle lighter- they are accepted as the ultimate sniping class.

[RamsenC]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Alot of people think I over-rated the drells, so I added this short video to show you how effective they can be.

Video

To be fair grenades are most effective on that map since it's so small and you can get to the crates easily. Cramped maps also make the Falcon shine much more. Overall this is more of a why the Falcon is awesome, especially on that small map, video. The ability to insantly recharge shields with charge lets you keep a very fast pace, but every Vanguard can do that.

Not sure where I would rank the drells overall, but Human Sent and Salarian Engineer are definitely better. 

Modifié par RamsenC, 16 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[Sabresandiego]

I greatly improved this list, with explanations and reasons for my rankings.

[jimmyw404]

I kind of liked having them split by enemy, because that makes a lot of sense. I primarily play a QI but I don't think that class is particularly good unless she's fighting geth.

[dabidinashell]

Could you give us an overview of your drell adept build?

[fafnir magnus]

Infiltrators are great until regular enemies start getting bull-****-o-vision and deciding your cloak no longer exists. Most commonly becoming an issue with ravagers. Also getting the lag, 20 foot drag, instakill by banshees with no teammates to stagger her is a pain in the ass.
Oh, and any situation where you just didn't see THAT hunter coming through