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[Sentr0]

i dont get how the drell is any good

[Sabresandiego]

Drells are good because of mobility and cluster grenade. Pull isnt that impressive, but reave and charge and both great.

[woah_geez]

best tier list, I agree

[Gaidax]

Sabresandiego wrote...

Alot of people think I over-rated the drells, so I added this short video to show you how effective they can be.

Video

You should try Asari Vanguard, IMO it is a bit better, since they have 400 more shield power to begin with and teleport dodging, which is a nice extra bump in survivability.

[Sabresandiego]

I updated my rankings here, after the latest patch. Quarian Engineers and Turian Soldiers are now tier 5 (from 6), meanwhile the human soldier was moved down to tier 6 due to the falcon nerf. Both krogans are in tier 6 due to their lack of maneuverability.

[Kamuchi]

Stupid question i just have to ask as we survived silver with 3 people with a 72k score i`ve never seen befor

What is better for the asari adept: warp or throw?

Max stasis for the bubble is a life saver, managed to trap almost all phantoms that way
Warp atm at max with 6 points in throw
Exclusively use the M8 assault riffle, so didn`t need the 30% heavy pistol skill as i still have 200% recharge

Any input would be great, mostly doing silver atm and want to try out gold, just not being completely useless

[Firebolt145]

I use 6-6-6-5-3.

[Steven83]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Trakarg wrote...

Note how all the top classes are power spammers rather than weapons-based ones.  Weapons need a buff.  And then perhaps a reduction on infiltrator cloak damage so they don't get too insane.

Uh, no.  See:  Infiltrators.

Rapid fire weapons need buffs, though.  They are both less damaging and less safe to use.

I disagree with this. Infiltrators thrive from power usage - other class can't do what they can. It's ridiculous. On a salarian infiltrator, the ability to pop a cloak, unload a sniper shot..then following it up with a full shield recharge from Energy Drain is something that other classes can't do.

Soldiers would lose shield before unloading that big crucial shot due to lack of stealth. Their adrenaline takes ages to recharge too, so you cannot rely on them.

Infiltrators commence recharge the moment they opened fire and break off cloak. This is a huge difference. This is why I don't play Soldiers anymore since Infiltration > Adrenaline in terms of power effectiveness.

Infiltrators will get nerfed. Farm credits while you can.

Modifié par Steven83, 22 mars 2012 - 08:12 .

[fafnir magnus]

My constant high-score salarian engineer begs to differ with your ideas. also keep in mind that the cobra missile users on the team will skew scores unrealistically. In all honesty for teams in general a salarian engineer is >>> than all other classes when it isn't already present and thus should probably be in its own top tier.

[Steven83]

Well it all hinges on the Energy Drain skill being exclusive to Salarians isn't it?
I find the hassle of staying in cover, waiting for shield recharge disappear once I pick a Salarian class.

[Plakmasta]

Im gonna go ahead and say biosplosions beat out infiltrators. The fact that as you work on the big guys (atlas, prime, banshee) you are also destroying everything around them with properly speced biotic explosions. Also stasis bubbles for the asari adept. Whenever i play either asari adept or human sentinel speced for biosplosions i always end up on top scorewise.
I feel infiltrators have their place in gold runs, being that of a medic/objective doer, but in terms of combat adepts beat out infiltrator in effectiveness, especially if you work with a partner who sets up the explosions. By far the most effective.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Sabresandiego wrote...


Tier 6 
Krogan Soldier 
Krogan Sentinel    
 

These are the worst classes in the game. 

:crying::crying:

Bioware y u no love me? MRAAWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA is now the sound i make when i cry.

Hopefully if the Krogan battlemaster is legit he will be able to preform Splosions and be atleast tier 4. 


Edit:can Krogan sentinel be put up to tier 5? Tech armor detonation is Effective against phantoms...and husk...and swarmers....Here i go again......MRAWHAAAAAAAAA.... 

Modifié par Mysterious Stranger 0.0, 22 mars 2012 - 08:54 .

[Steven83]

Sad truth big guy. I mean those HP & Shield may mean a lot, but you won't be able to melee much in Gold to take advantage of the Krogan Rage. If they could just change Krogan rage triggered from range attacks as well (double the kill requirement), it would make it a little bit more viable.

[Kronner]

I'd move Human Adept down one tier, but other than that my list would be exactly the same.

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Steven83 wrote...

Sad truth big guy. I mean those HP & Shield may mean a lot, but you won't be able to melee much in Gold to take advantage of the Krogan Rage. If they could just change Krogan rage triggered from range attacks as well (double the kill requirement), it would make it a little bit more viable.

I know, i've completed gold on my Krogan enough times to know the class deserves it's tier.

And i don't think those HP and shields mean nearly enough. Only buys us a few extra seconds out of cover on gold and half the enemies 1 hit our shields despite their strength. DR seems hardly noticable, even if i do manage to get rage i still can't go on a melee spree or do decent dps with melee that my Paladin could do from a distance.  And although incinerate/carnage aren't bad they don't stack up anywhere close to the dps potential of other powers. 

I only really play gold with My krogan with friends, because PuGs normally wanna face geth which the krogan is tier 7 at. or i get kicked before the match starts. Or it's just so damn dissapointing to try so damn hard get headshots non stop with no scope at long range, hardly get downed, and  getting all 3 kill streak medals with careful rockets on wave 10 only to get outscored by a damn SI with the black widow by 10k. 

Other than that i stick to silver where i can still feel like a Krogan, and equip weapons that aren't smaller than my fingers. 

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

I find the soldiers position strange. Did you try it with shotgun?

My geth shotgun/adrenaline rush build soldier is almost ALWAYS top in bronze and silver. Sometimes with atleast 25% lead on 2nd place. In silver I often end up with 75 kills.

I havent tried him in Gold yet, I trust you tested this proparly?

[tankarmarx]

When I was looking at this list, as much as I love my Drell Adept and Vanguard I was going meeeeeeeeh but in the end I agreed.

I would personally put Salarian Engineer higher because I'm biased (and also have yet to be outdamaged vs. Geth even by multiple Salarian Infiltrators) but I understand why they're where they are. Decoy is their shining star and with a proper DD team the Salarian Engineer can be the key to winning a match.

Overall, I think this is such a great list, I'm glad to see the Drell get the recognition they deserve. Especially the Drell Vanguard.

[Cerunas]

fafnir magnus wrote...

My constant high-score salarian engineer begs to differ with your ideas. also keep in mind that the cobra missile users on the team will skew scores unrealistically. In all honesty for teams in general a salarian engineer is >>> than all other classes when it isn't already present and thus should probably be in its own top tier.

I honestly don't think decoy is enough to make the Salarian Engineer better than the Salarian infiltrator, which is really the only thing the engineer has going for it over the infiltrator.

[Mieko]

Gaidax wrote...

Sabresandiego wrote...

Alot of people think I over-rated the drells, so I added this short video to show you how effective they can be.

Video

You should try Asari Vanguard, IMO it is a bit better, since they have 400 more shield power to begin with and teleport dodging, which is a nice extra bump in survivability.

That close combat playstyle seems a little bit dangerous. And I'd give the Asari Adept a higher rating than the Drells, because of Bubble Stasis and evenly biotic powers.

Modifié par Mieko, 22 mars 2012 - 10:18 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Sabresandiego wrote...


Tier 6 
Krogan Soldier 
Krogan Sentinel    
 

These are the worst classes in the game. 

:crying::crying:

Bioware y u no love me? MRAAWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA is now the sound i make when i cry.

Hopefully if the Krogan battlemaster is legit he will be able to preform Splosions and be atleast tier 4. 


Edit:can Krogan sentinel be put up to tier 5? Tech armor detonation is Effective against phantoms...and husk...and swarmers....Here i go again......MRAWHAAAAAAAAA.... 

On second thought the Krogan soldier should have his own tier.

Tier 7. He's less useful than the sent and has less mobility/damage than other soldiers. 

[Kamuchi]

Firebolt145 wrote...

I use 6-6-6-5-3.

Thanks, going to give it a try

[Firebolt145]

Mieko wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

Sabresandiego wrote...

Alot of people think I over-rated the drells, so I added this short video to show you how effective they can be.

Video

You should try Asari Vanguard, IMO it is a bit better, since they have 400 more shield power to begin with and teleport dodging, which is a nice extra bump in survivability.

That close combat playstyle seems a little bit dangerous. And I'd give the Asari Adept a higher rating than the Drells, because of Bubble Stasis and evenly biotic powers.

Tbh that video was sort of carried by falcon. Now that falcon has been nerfed this style is much less effective. A shotgun might be able to replace the role but it won't quite be as powerful.

[cuzIMgood]

Good list, almost 100% agree. Might switch up a few classes up or down a notch but still, great list. Hopefully Bioware takes a look at this to see how to better balance a few of these classes.

[Peer of the Empire]

Conclusion: BUFF KROGANS

I enjoy my drell adept greatly, but I'd prefer krogan

[Steven83]

If you want to make Tech Armor viable, make it reflect 25% damage back to its attackers.
Sentinels right now is just a half assed class with 25% DR bonus and slightly higher power output.