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Maria Caliban

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This thread has NO STORY INFO. It is merely about Shale's combat role.

class: Warrior

Role: Main Tank or DPS: The burly Shale can step in for other tanks such as Alistair if you prefer stone to steel. As a warrior, Shale has full access to the standard Warrior school talents, but doesn’t know any of the weapon talents, which means it’ll be without Weapon and Shield. Instead, Shale comes with its own set of 16 individual talents that can help the golem play defense as a tank or crush opponents with DPS.

Available Talents: 

Warrior Talents:
Powerful, Threaten, Bravery, Death Blow, Precise Striking, Taunt, Disengage, Perfect Striking

Shale Specific Talents: 
Pulverizing Blows -> Slam -> Quake -> Killing Blow
Stoneheart ->Bellow -> Stone Roar -> Regenerating Burst
Rock Mastery -> Hurl Rock-> Earthen Grasp ->Rock Barrage
Stone Aura -> Inner Reserves -> Renewed Assault -> Supernatural Resilience


Shale serves dual purposes: the party’s main tank or a heavy melee damage-dealer. If you want Shale to take over as your main tank, concentrate on the Stoneheart chain first. Stoneheart activates Shale’s defensive talents and increases the golem’s threat. Bellow increases Shale’s threat and has a chance to stun nearby enemies if they fail a mental resistance check. Stone Roar gains a health regeneration bonus for Shale and attracts the attention of a single targeted enemy, who will veer toward Shale immediately (great for pulling foes off allies). Regenerating Burst damages and possibly stuns nearby enemies, plus it increases stamina regeneration and threat generation.

The Stone Aura chain supports a Shale tank strategy. Stone Aura imbues nearby party members with bonuses to attack, defense, and health regeneration. It provides excellent party buffs; however, the sustained ability paralyzes Shale and imposes a personal penalty to defense as well as draining stamina. Inner Reserves beefs up Shale’s armor, and party members within Stone Aura receive additional bonuses to armor, health regeneration, stamina regeneration, and spellpower. Renewed Assault further increases Shale’s armor and ability to resist hostile spells, and party members within the aura gain bonuses to attack, stamina regeneration, critical chance, and armor penetration. Plus, enemies within the aura suffer penalties to movement speed, attack, and defense. Supernatural Resilience gives more bonuses to armor and the ability to resist hostile spells. Party members within the aura gain additional bonuses to health regeneration, spellpower, damage, and to resist hostile spells.

If you’d rather have Shale deal damage than suck up damage, first concentrate on the golem’s Pulverizing Blows chain. Pulverizing Blows activates Shale’s offensive talents, taking a penalty to defense in exchange for a bonus to damage. Slam swings at a nearby enemy and, if it connects, automatically generates a critical hit and knocks the target back. Quake hits nearby enemies with an AoE that damages and knocks them back. Killing Blow smashes a target with a critical hit (if it connects) and extra damage equal to Shale’s remaining stamina, which drains away after the blow.

Shale’s final chain beginning with Rock Mastery supports a DPS orientation and gives Shale more ranged options. Rock Mastery activates the golem’s ranged talents and gains a large bonus against incoming ranged attacks, though at a penalty to defense, armor, and melee critical chance. Nearby party members also gain bonuses to ranged critical chance and ranged attack speed. Hurl Rock throws a stone projectile at a targeted area and all enemies near the point of impact take physical damage and may be knocked down. Earthen Grasp immobilizes enemies unless they pass a physical resistance check. Rock Barrage throws multiple rocks into the air, which rain down on a targeted area and inflict movement penalties and knock down anyone within if they fail a physical resistance check.

Source: PRIMA Guide.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 02 novembre 2009 - 05:15 .


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aragfore03

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So wait.... he is a warrior. Not something special. We've been tricked! ;)



*glares*

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gangly369

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thanks for this, i really appreciate it. if you could post one about dog, or direct me to the place, could you please do so? Thanks again :)

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gangly369

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nvm, i found a place :)

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sifusal2000

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how far into the game before you should try to get Shale

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Oooh, that was useful. I avoided delving into any of the character pages for fear of being spoiled. It looks like I'll be able to turn Shale into the brick wall o' doom I hoped for. :D

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mrmoneda

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sifusal2000 wrote...

how far into the game before you should try to get Shale

I was watching a stream of a 360 player as he acquired Shale. Shale's quest is completely separate from the main story, so it really doesn't matter when you try to acquire him. What I noticed during this playthrough, however, is that you will face many enemies while completing the quest line to awaken Shale. These encounters will be easier, I imagine, the more talents, skills or spells you have, the better the gear you have, etc.

If you've happened to have read "The Stolen Throne" there's also a nice story tie-in with Shale's history. I appreciated it very much (thanks Mr. Gaider!).

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IRICHARDI

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Thank you for this info, Maria.

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AviramG

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shale is a girl right?


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mrmoneda

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AviramG wrote...

shale is a girl right?

Riiiiiiight. :?

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minamber

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AviramG wrote...

shale is a girl right?


Shale is a golem, why would you assign a gender to a huge pile of rocks, even if it has a personality? Gender is meaningless considering that Shale is  probalby the only golem around.

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AviramG wrote...

shale is a girl right?


Shale is a golem, why would you assign a gender to a huge pile of rocks, even if it has a personality? Gender is meaningless considering that Shale is  probably the only golem around.

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sparker7572

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In the game Shale is said to have been a dwarf girl.

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JessicaGlenn

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She's a dwarf girl. Her real name is Shayle. Go figure.

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DrekorSilverfang

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Shale holds aggro better than any other companion, it's the best tank around if you don't have any lures... Although I prefer my 3 arcane warriors + shale in stone aura mode. Makes nightmare into easy mode.

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personally i haven't seen much use in using shale in defensive mode :<

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Boeresmurf

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shale is epixx tank....

used him second playthrough .. straight after ostagar i went to pick him up, and gives me very easy epic heavy loot for sten and oghren :)

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one of my big negatives for him - like dog is you can't really equip him well, for example the best anti-fire crystal doesn't really compare to the best armor like the juggernaut set

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Necroe- wrote...

one of my big negatives for him - like dog is you can't really equip him well, for example the best anti-fire crystal doesn't really compare to the best armor like the juggernaut set






Not exactlly true im looking at a piece for Shale that offers a 50% resist...it seems that Garin the forgetfull merchant in Ozammar, ooffers new gear for Shale every few levels or so.

Also are theese small brilliant and large brilliant crystal the final gear items for Shale? I dont really wanna waste 23 gold if new ones will appear in Garins inventory.

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minamber wrote...

AviramG wrote...

shale is a girl right?


Shale is a golem, why would you assign a gender to a huge pile of rocks, even if it has a personality? Gender is meaningless considering that Shale is  probably the only golem around.



As Caridan explains in A Paragon of Her Kind at the anvil of the void, no smith can create life. They bind the lives of others to golems.

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Shale crystal progression goes: Chipped < Flawed < Clear < Flawless < Brilliant

Edit: Whoops, I did swap Brilliant/Flawless. My bad :)

Modifié par crackseed, 26 novembre 2009 - 01:57 .


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crackseed wrote...
Shale crystal progression goes: Chipped < Flawed < Clear < Brilliant < Flawless

You switched Brilliant and Flawless.  Brilliant is better than Flawless.  Interestingly, on my first playthrough, I didn't see a siingle Brilliant crystal, while on my second, in which I used Shale, I had almost a complete set of both large and small brilliant crystals.

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Before being used to make a homonculi the spirit was bound to a body which gender was female. As above the smiths cannot create life, only bind the life to the vessel, in this case the Golem but does make the entity now called Shale female, male? Neither. Homonculi don't have a gender unless you live in a world where you only recognise pretty veneers. This could turn into a very nice philosophical debate on the nature of our 'soul' and how we define masculinity and such.

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The Angry One

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Shale's personality remains female even when she doesn't know it; her apprectiation of gems is distinctly feminine.

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How so? How does liking gems make someone feminine? so if a man likes gems he's a female trapped in a mans body?