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teh_619 wrote...

None of the above were in the series and I don't care about them. Nobody does.


Ahhh... I see the problem. You seem to think that you speak for everyone when you don't speak for anyone but yourself.

Sorry you don't think you like it. Still, I would suggest you wait to actually experience it before you start hating.



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Tazzmission wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

from the video when you do the scan you can see a rescue ops label pop up saying 1 of many


Am I looking at a different video? The one I'm looking at he finds some Javelin missiles.


its the same video. i believe its after the javelin missles because he visits two hot spots in the same system


Nah... the second one is a wrecked fuel depot.

What does the rescue ops label look like? Maybe I just didn't recognize it.

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teh_619 wrote...
They had to do 2 things to make it actually decent:

-Improve those crazy physics. Hammerhead is a nice alternative.
-Add content to the planets surface. Alien trees, caves, lakes, seas, lush environments, wild life, resources guarded by powerful natural hunters and monsters, actual RUINS of civilization!

There's so much potential I don't even know where to stop. You can make the galaxy feel alive.

Right now it's just a quiet empty thing with some stuff here and there. Make the galaxy intereseting and we might actually care if the reapers try to destroy it.

Making open planets that have interesting environments takes time

This took me a good 6 hours and I've just started:
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I wish ME could have both open and interesting environments but it just takes too much time to actually make anything like that.

Modifié par BlahDog, 26 février 2012 - 09:51 .


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Tazzmission wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

You're willingly ignoring the fact that Bioware just removed planet exploration and didn't even try to improve on it.
Just that is a reason to criticize.


We did improve on planet scanning from ME2 to ME3. That was what was being discussed here. That was what I commented on. You can start criticizing the lack of superheroes, ham sandwiches and DDR elements as well if you are going to use this thread to criticize things that are also not included in planet scanning. I just thought we were discussing planet scanning.

Yes yes: "What? No superheroes, ham sandwiches, DDR elements, preorder cancelled". Nothing tired about that yet.




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None of the above were in the series and I don't care about them. Nobody does.
Planet exploration was though.
You didn't improve on it. You removed it.



explain how they removed it? have you played the game yourself? if not shut up and dont make wild assumptions


Where in ME2 did you see planet exploration?


:facepalm:

whats your definition of planet exploration?

you have this whole board telling you your wrong and yet you still believe your opinion is the one that really matters so enlighten me smart guy


Landing on planets and exploring them?

Have you played ME1?

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Modifié par Chris Priestly, 26 février 2012 - 10:00 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

None of the above were in the series and I don't care about them. Nobody does.


Ahhh... I see the problem. You seem to think that you speak for everyone when you don't speak for anyone but yourself.

Sorry you don't think you like it. Still, I would suggest you wait to actually experience it before you start hating.



:devil:


Are you claiming that people want ham in mass effect? I don't get you.

I don't speak for anyone but myself. Good job entirely ignoring my point on ME1 and personally attacking me.

Modifié par teh_619, 26 février 2012 - 09:53 .


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60 times i have yes and also numb nuts we actually landed on planets in me2 so your argument is as flawed as your logic

Yes, but we never explored them. It was just a linear mission that had better environments. I prefer it that to ME1's system though.

Modifié par BlahDog, 26 février 2012 - 09:54 .


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Edit: Postremoved due to nested quotes. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 26 février 2012 - 10:01 .


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Edit: Post removed. Poster banend 24 hours for fighting and insults. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 26 février 2012 - 10:01 .


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Edit: Post removed. Poster banned 24 hours for fighting. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 26 février 2012 - 10:02 .


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teh_619 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

None of the above were in the series and I don't care about them. Nobody does.


Ahhh... I see the problem. You seem to think that you speak for everyone when you don't speak for anyone but yourself.

Sorry you don't think you like it. Still, I would suggest you wait to actually experience it before you start hating.



:devil:


Are you claiming that people want ham in mass effect? I don't get you.

I don't speak for anyone but myself. Good job entirely ignoring my point on ME1 and personally attacking me.

You're delusional. In no way was what Chris said a personal attack.

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teh_619 wrote...

Read my post up there.
And I'd like to add: GAMEPLAY.
If I just wanted to attack things and talk to people I can just do that in DA.

That's the difference between ME and DA.

SPACE.

Do something decent with it for god's sake.


So in the end, you're just saying that you want to have planet exploration in a space game, and you want them to somehow rationalize it any way they can because you just really really want to have planet exploration.

OK. I want my RPGs to have my character doing things that make sense for that character. Exploration isn't in Shepard's job description. So we just want different things from games. End of line.

In retrospect, Bio made a huge mistake when they put planet exploration in ME1. Not so much because it was a bad feature -- though ME1's implementation was bad, making for bad gameplay and worse role-playing -- but because it gave you and people like you the wrong idea of what ME was about.

Modifié par AlanC9, 26 février 2012 - 09:56 .


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Modifié par Chris Priestly, 26 février 2012 - 10:02 .


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So ... is there actually evidence that there is no ME1-style planet exploration,or is everything just speculation?

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AlanC9 wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Read my post up there.
And I'd like to add: GAMEPLAY.
If I just wanted to attack things and talk to people I can just do that in DA.

That's the difference between ME and DA.

SPACE.

Do something decent with it for god's sake.


So in the end, you're just saying that you want to have planet exploration in a space game, and you want them to somehow rationalize it any way they can because you just really really want to have planet exploration.

OK. I want my RPGs to have my character doing things that make sense for that character. Exploration isn't in Shepard's job description. So we just want different things from games. End of line.

In retrospect, Bio made a huge mistake when they put planet exploration in ME1. Not so much because it was a bad feature -- though ME1's implementation was bad, making for bad gameplay and worse role-playing -- but because it gave you and people like you the wrong idea of what ME was about.


What is ME about?

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teh_619 wrote...
Just calm down for a sec. Ask yourself: "What's the difference between ME1 and ME2 resource gathering?"

Do it.

One required an annoying time-based mini-game (planetside anyway)

The other required a tedious scanning procedure.

Neither are very good.

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Oh Christ Priestly, you handsome fool

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BlahDog wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

60 times i have yes and also numb nuts we actually landed on planets in me2 so your argument is as flawed as your logic

Yes, but we never explored them. It was just a linear mission that had better environments. I prefer it that to ME1's system though.


its still technacly exploration though if you think about it

you scan planets and are even emailed about certasin things where you have to go and do.


to me that is exploration

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BlahDog wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

60 times i have yes and also numb nuts we actually landed on planets in me2 so your argument is as flawed as your logic

Yes, but we never explored them. It was just a linear mission that had better environments. I prefer it that to ME1's system though.


Yeah, for purposes of this thread "planet exploration" means actually driving around on a planet, not exploring the planet in the sense of discovering what's on the planet.

If anyone's got a better term we could use that, but this one's OK as long as we all remember that planet scanning doesn't count as "planet exploration."

Modifié par AlanC9, 26 février 2012 - 09:58 .


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teh_619 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

You're willingly ignoring the fact that Bioware just removed planet exploration and didn't even try to improve on it.
Just that is a reason to criticize.


We did improve on planet scanning from ME2 to ME3. That was what was being discussed here. That was what I commented on. You can start criticizing the lack of superheroes, ham sandwiches and DDR elements as well if you are going to use this thread to criticize things that are also not included in planet scanning. I just thought we were discussing planet scanning.

Yes yes: "What? No superheroes, ham sandwiches, DDR elements, preorder cancelled". Nothing tired about that yet.




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None of the above were in the series and I don't care about them. Nobody does.
Planet exploration was though.
You didn't improve on it. You removed it.



explain how they removed it? have you played the game yourself? if not shut up and dont make wild assumptions


Where in ME2 did you see planet exploration?


:facepalm:

whats your definition of planet exploration?

you have this whole board telling you your wrong and yet you still believe your opinion is the one that really matters so enlighten me smart guy


Landing on planets and exploring them?

Have you played ME1?

I was under the impression you could travel to different planets in ME 2, just with a quest.
That single mission with the poison fog and the klixen eclipsed all of the ME1 planets. Planetary exploration for the sake of exploration is great for RPGs with a small emphasis on story or with sandbox games, but with a race against time, the preparation for a suicide mission and an all out war, plantery exploration in that sense destroys all sense of pacing an immersion.

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Holy quote pyramids, Batman!

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teh_619 wrote...



What is ME about?


Stopping the Reapers.

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I think we all know that Mass Effects  (and most of other BW games) Strength lies in Storytelling and Characters (Relationship) and maybe some little stuff, but not about open world exploration (heck there aren't any BW games with open world right).
If it would focuses more about world exploration, which I'd like, than other elements would be shortened, cut or whatever

Modifié par Garrus30, 26 février 2012 - 10:01 .


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The lack of mineral collecting is nice, but the whole "oh no the Reapers found you" mechanic is just dumb, especially since it can prevent you from doing any missions in that system until you go play another mission.

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Tazzmission wrote...

BlahDog wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

60 times i have yes and also numb nuts we actually landed on planets in me2 so your argument is as flawed as your logic

Yes, but we never explored them. It was just a linear mission that had better environments. I prefer it that to ME1's system though.


its still technacly exploration though if you think about it

you scan planets and are even emailed about certasin things where you have to go and do.


to me that is exploration

That is Space Exploration

Planet Exploration is the actual exploration on that planet