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[LCD Dave N7]

Just wondering how many people still consider Bioware one of their 'safe' developers in light of all this ME3 fallout and how that is going to impact sales on future projects away from their typical genre?

Guess I'm a little worried about what happens if C&C bombs. Bioware gets re-branded EA North?

[deadshame]

The bioware making the C&C game isn't the same bioware. And no amount of ****y people will sway my opinion on Bioware as a company. If ME3 some how turns out to be completely horrible then i'll lose some respect for them. But I don't see that happening.

Edit: From what i've seen of Mass Effect 3, its shaping up to be a hell of a game and I can't wait to start playing it. Naysayers be damned.

Modifié par deadshame, 26 février 2012 - 07:01 .

[Zanallen]

Nothing about ME3 has bothered me so far.

[Nathan Redgrave]

LCD Dave N7 wrote...

Just wondering how many people still consider Bioware one of their 'safe' developers in light of all this ME3 fallout

 
If Internet fan-whinging were worth that sort of opinion shift, there would BE no "safe" developers.

It's the GAMES that decide those things. And this just in: I don't have the game yet.

Modifié par Nathan Redgrave, 26 février 2012 - 06:58 .

[az350z]

Fallout? Sales?

Lol. Bring this up again in a month when EA reveals its earnings.

Modifié par az350z, 26 février 2012 - 07:00 .

[LCD Dave N7]

deadshame wrote...

The bioware making the C&C game isn't the same bioware. And no amount of ****y people will sway my opinion on Bioware as a company. If ME3 some how turns out to be completely horrible then i'll lose some respect for them. But I don't see that happening.

So, how am I supposed to know WHICH Bioware makes a game? I didn't see any 'not the real Bioware' disclaimer on the C&C announcement.

[Icinix]

I think they've seen the backlash that can happen if they're not careful with their direction (DA2) - so I think they're still safe.

I love that they're trying to reboot the C&C genre under the BioWare label, I love how ME3 is shaping (from leaks and MP).

They're the goldenboy at EA right now - I think EA has learnt that too much involvement in their studios IP's is damaging - and I think BioWare has a lot more Freedom than what Westwood and Origin had.

[deadshame]

LCD Dave N7 wrote...

deadshame wrote...

The bioware making the C&C game isn't the same bioware. And no amount of ****y people will sway my opinion on Bioware as a company. If ME3 some how turns out to be completely horrible then i'll lose some respect for them. But I don't see that happening.

So, how am I supposed to know WHICH Bioware makes a game? I didn't see any 'not the real Bioware' disclaimer on the C&C announcement.

C&C is being developed by Bioware Victory. This link can tell you some about the game:

pc.ign.com/articles/121/1214474p1.html

[Moonshadow_Dark]

az350z wrote...

Fallout? Sales?

FALLOUT'S GOING ON SALE?

[TwistedComplex]

Day -5 facebook DLC for Mass Effect Online and Dragon Age 19

/thread

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 26 février 2012 - 07:05 .

[TwistedComplex]

aLucidMind wrote...

So far, I still consider BioWare a safe developer to go with. I don't judge them when it comes to DA2 because my friend gave it (and a ton of other games) as payment for a loan he couldn't pay back.

So now he owes you even more, huh?

[Sith Reaper]

LCD Dave N7 wrote...

Just wondering how many people still consider Bioware one of their 'safe' developers in light of all this ME3 fallout and how that is going to impact sales on future projects away from their typical genre?

Guess I'm a little worried about what happens if C&C bombs. Bioware gets re-branded EA North?

Well, instead of buying into what you read on the forums, you may want to do some research. Pre-orders for ME3 are already several hundred thousand more than ME2, and the first review of ME3 released today is rated higher than ME1 and 2 (Gamestar: http://social.biowar...-9459637-1.html).

[TonyTitan]

You mean 'fallout' from those people who are griping over a demo? The ones that are complaining about a 'Day 1' DLC, that in reality, *IF* Mass Effect 3 would have been released on its ORIGINAL planned date.....that particular DLC wouldn't even be considered relevant now, and probably more praised for some cool bonus squaddie and mission???

I like Zanallen's post.....Nothing about ME3 has bothered me so far.

[android654]

I'm not pleased with the direction they took with this project, so I'm waiting on reviews before I commit to buying. If DA3 captures my attention, I'll still wait for extensive reviews. Bioware as a whole is not a developer I'm too pleased with any longer. Valve, Bethesda, Obsidiain, CDPR are developers that warrant attention when they develop a new game, and have earned it.

[Cody211282]

They stopped being a "safe" company after DA2.

Only reason I preordered ME3 was because of the demo.

Modifié par Cody211282, 26 février 2012 - 07:10 .

[TwistedComplex]

Sith Reaper wrote...

LCD Dave N7 wrote...

Just wondering how many people still consider Bioware one of their 'safe' developers in light of all this ME3 fallout and how that is going to impact sales on future projects away from their typical genre?

Guess I'm a little worried about what happens if C&C bombs. Bioware gets re-branded EA North?

Well, instead of buying into what you read on the forums, you may want to do some research. Pre-orders for ME3 are already several hundred thousand more than ME2, and the first review of ME3 released today is rated higher than ME1 and 2 (Gamestar: http://social.biowar...-9459637-1.html).

In other news, Pre-orders for DA2 were higher than DA:O and it was named RPG of the decade by PCgamer.

Get your copy today

[LCD Dave N7]

Sith Reaper wrote...

LCD Dave N7 wrote...

Just wondering how many people still consider Bioware one of their 'safe' developers in light of all this ME3 fallout and how that is going to impact sales on future projects away from their typical genre?

Guess I'm a little worried about what happens if C&C bombs. Bioware gets re-branded EA North?

Well, instead of buying into what you read on the forums, you may want to do some research. Pre-orders for ME3 are already several hundred thousand more than ME2, and the first review of ME3 released today is rated higher than ME1 and 2 (Gamestar: http://social.biowar...-9459637-1.html).

No need to get snooty mate, I am doing research! I didn't follow your link, but unless it tells me how people feel about Bioware as a company and their confidence in the company's direction, I'm afraid it won't help.

[xHarrison23]

In terms of sales it's safe to say Bioware is fine. They are launching in a time period were it has been several months since a blockbuster game. KoA was the last good game to launch but with little hype so less sales. The EA marketing team is pooring in millions for Me3. Everytime I see an advertisement on the internet or on tv it is Me3. The dashboard is all Me3 for 360. Not to mention the CE is sold out everywhere and that rarely happens for games.

From what I have seen in terms of a potential disappointing game, no way. There hasn't been any significant changes that are game changing and the addition of a multiplayer mode will attract far more people then those who are disappointed.

Me3 in no way will be a downfall of Bioware,

[xHarrison23]

android654 wrote...

I'm not pleased with the direction they took with this project, so I'm waiting on reviews before I commit to buying. If DA3 captures my attention, I'll still wait for extensive reviews. Bioware as a whole is not a developer I'm too pleased with any longer. Valve, Bethesda, Obsidiain, CDPR are developers that warrant attention when they develop a new game, and have earned it.

I wouldn't consider Obsidian a trusted studio IMO. They only leech on to sequels of successful titles and their own IP such as Alpha Protocal have tanked badly.

[magnuskn]

LCD Dave N7 wrote...

Just wondering how many people still consider Bioware one of their 'safe' developers in light of all this ME3 fallout and how that is going to impact sales on future projects away from their typical genre?

Guess I'm a little worried about what happens if C&C bombs. Bioware gets re-branded EA North?

Are you kidding me? ME3 looks on every level to be the game which puts BioWare back on top, after they somewhat stumbled with Dragon Age 2 and ( IMO ) Star Wars: The Old Republic. Although they still can pull out SWTOR, it's an MMO with constant updates after all.

[TwistedComplex]

magnuskn wrote...

 Although they still can pull out SWTOR, it's an MMO with constant updates after all.

Because updating an MMO after having a bad first 2 months has worked SO WELL for other MMOs right?

[SLPr0]

Uh there are a million console versions of this came pre-ordered right now and an uncountable amount of PC physical media and digital distribution pre-orders as well. Its likely there are two million copies of this game pre-ordered as of this time.

As I said somewhere else, the problems people seem to have with games and game developers don't generally stem from games being bad or game developers being bad, but from Western society, as a whole, being raised on disposable culture, and thus, having no valid reference in regards to true value, no experience that a game can provide you with will be valuable.

In short the Western market is unsatisfiable because its never had to even contemplate a situation where they might have to entertain themselves by drawing pictures in the dirt with a stick. So everyone is a critic, and everyone has an opinion and all of the opinions are, well, invalid, because they're all based in a lack of comprehension of true value.

What BioWare does is magic. Plain and simple. And an estimated two million pre-orders for ME3 isn't too shabby, especially with the RD push back and all.

[ArkkAngel007]

Depends on the development team. But the EA part of it and the auxiliary teams attached to BioWare using their name I am wary of until Origin issues are addressed further and quality games are produced, respectively.

The core teams though? Yes. I'm pretty much over DAII (which after I calmed down, I found it to be an enjoyable, yet distinctly flawed, title. Average game quality, not BioWare quality), and loved BG, DA:O, and the ME games.

ME3 multiplayer was excellent, combat is great (though that space bar...FFUUU), and the atmosphere from the Mars footage from IGN gave me a ME1 vibe, which pretty much sold it. I don't agree with how the DLC was handled, but hell, it's DLC. Don't have to purchase it or download it.

As long as future titles aren't rushed like DAII and have a better overall marketing and PR than ME3 (c'mon the same demo 10 times???), I'll stick around.

[Rockpopple]

What "Mass Effect fallout?"

From what I gather people are jazzed as hell over this game, and it's not even out yet.