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[Rockworm503]

Ivoryhammer wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Ivoryhammer wrote...

What fallout? People are just whining about a companion that they will probably never use, and will have no impact on the story, like Zaeed.

You've met people who've said they'll probably never use the prothean?

Yeah, a few of my friends, myself included said that they won't ever use it even if we do buy the DLC.

Why would you buy it at all?
Especially if you're not going to use it?
Sometime down line when I finally buy this game I ain't touching that DLC unless its free.
As far as I'm conserned it doesn't exist.

[HiroVoid]

android654 wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

android654 wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

That's hilarious, given the harassment of Hepler by so-called fans who, clearly, provoked the woman beyond belief by the time of the Twitter incident. What do you call those people, shining paragons of virtue and civility?

You're right they're just "Jelous they don't have a vagina and a job in the industry"

We're all enveous of Jennifers womanhood and fanfic level writing

No matter what my opinions are of BW or the direction they've chosen to take, it's really f**ked up for anyone to think it's cool or justified to harass someone like Hepler got harassed for having an opinion. She said what she said to the people who were harassin her, and to call her arrogant is disgusting.

It shouldn't happen and it's one of the worst aspects of the internet, but responding to it doesn't help matters.  Especially the way she resonded could have been better.  It would be like the guy with the glasses making a video about how people should stop insulting him because he's popular with his videos or probably plenty of other figures that probably get verbally insulted over the internet and otherwise much more.

Can someone explain to me why she couldn't have just called the police on the people harassing her phone at home though?  It's illegal, so I certainly see why not?

When its one against dozens, I think they're justified to say
something in their defense. You can equate all of the personal, sexist
and racist things they said to her with her one comback.

*You can't equate*.  Thought I'd point this out if you want to edit your sentence.  I'll edit this out right after....unless I misunderstood something.

Calling the poilce wouldn't do much. They would monitor her emails and tap her phones and then what? Visit the individual homes and give them warnings? If one person is harassing you, then it's concentrated and can be dealt with, but when it's dozens of people, what are you really going to do that is also legally realistic?

Sorry, I type fast.

Ah.  Never dealt with this paricular issue.  I thought they would get arrested if they continued.  If not, our legal enforcement can be too lenient at times.

No problem.  I'm not a spelling n*zi, but it kinda contradicted your whole sentence.

[Dansayshi]

Im just wondering what new franchise Bioware will come up with.

After all ME3 is the last of the series, and they killed dragon age themselves with that abysmal sequel.

[Ivoryhammer]

Dansayshi wrote...

Im just wondering what new franchise Bioware will come up with.

After all ME3 is the last of the series, and they killed dragon age themselves with that abysmal sequel.

Dragon Age 2 was pretty good in my opinion, it doesn't deserve the hate it gets.

[HiroVoid]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Can't police the internet no matter how hard you try.
The government is learning that now.

That's why I only mentioned the phone thing.  You can ignore comments, and IP's can be hidden, but calls can constantly annoy a person while I would think most phones can be traced(unless using public ones, but I don't think they'd go through the trouble).

[xHarrison23]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Ivoryhammer wrote...

What fallout? People are just whining about a companion that they will probably never use, and will have no impact on the story, like Zaeed.

You've met people who've said they'll probably never use the prothean?

Honestly I will probaby never use the prothean. I hate the look of the protheans and I don't know if i could standit's ugly ass head at the bottom of my hud for an entire mission, let alone having to have a conversation or fight alongside it. Now if the DLC character was Miranda..........

Modifié par xHarrison23, 26 février 2012 - 08:04 .

[Tazzmission]

op it ISNT just bioware! its the whole gaming industry

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

To be fair, only Fallout 1&2 are considered "cannon." Fallout 3 and New Vegas are both stand alone, so they did create an independent IP, and they are both equally good.

Huh? Fallout 3 was rippling with references and allusions to Fallout 1+2.

No idea about New Vegas.

It's been a bit, but outside of the vault, the overseer and the world, the wanderer in 1&2 is not the same as the wnaderer in 3. New Vegas' character was born in The Wastes, and has always been there.

The wanderer in 2 isn't the same as the wanderer in 1 either, what's your point? The PC in NV is a nameless courier.

The Vault Dweller in 1 has a descendant who takes his place in 2. Essentially its a direct sequel to one since the story and protagonist of 1 directly influences the story 2. Fallout 1 and 2 focused more on it's campaign, the others focused on the wastes. 3 and New Vegas have nothing to do with each other or the original sequels.

Modifié par android654, 26 février 2012 - 08:07 .

[SLPr0]

TwistedComplex wrote...

SLPr0 wrote...

2.15 million reported retail copies. VGChartz only tracks physical media from retail outlets that report numbers to them. They do not track digital distribution. And they won't have full global distribution numbers as there are multiple global retailers that do not report any data to them. And they have none of the numbers from Origin on SWTOR.

2.15 million copies is a lot of boxes retail alone. I would estimate, in the extreme low end scenario, there is probably an additional 1 million digital distributions unaccounted for globally. So in an extremely low end estimate you're looking at 3.15 million box sales. With a potential retention rate of around 50% thats still 1.7 million subscribers/ You must be one of those people that think WoW has had 11 million subscribers since November of 2004 or something.

Anyways you can ignore the upper two paragraphs cause they don't really mean anything cause at the end of the day you'll believe whatever you want to believe and thats all good.

Ray and Greg seem pretty happy with where they are right now, pretty sure they know a lot more about the situation at BioWare than anyone slopping their angst out here on the Social Network.

This week they only manaed to sell 6k copies in the US,

Cataclysm is still selling 5-6k copies every week a year after launch.

And Greg? The guy who said "Forum activity is dropping because people are playing the game"? Ya, he's a PR tool, he stopped making games long ago. He was pretty good at them to. Shame

Six thousand boxes a week post release isn't too shabby. If its keeping competitive with the sales of a major market dominator and its not even released any expansionary content yet, then it has a fair amount of potential.

And Greg was right, I stopped utilizing the TOR forums after release. There just wasn't any reason to be there. Still got both my wife and I's accounts active and we get on and do our PvP dailies every day or so and get back to waiting to see how the game sands off.

And last time I looked at the TOR forums, you couldn't keep a post on the general discussion forums front page what with all the activity.

Now if he was talking about BSN here, he probably said that because its more diplomatic than "Forum activity is dropping because the BSN appears to have attracted the most neurologically imbalanced people on the internet this side of 4chan."

[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

The Vault Dweller in 1 has a descendant who takes his place in 2. Essentially its a direct sequel to one since the story and protagonist of 1 directly influences the story 2. Fallout 1 and 2 focused more on it's campaign, 3 and New Vegas have nothing to do with each other or the original sequels.

It doesn't have to be a direct continuation to be a sequel (See: ME2). Like I pointed out earlier, it makes a LOT of references and points fingers to a lot of the events of 1+2, so it clearly sits somewhere on the timeline.

[xHarrison23]

Dansayshi wrote...

Im just wondering what new franchise Bioware will come up with.

After all ME3 is the last of the series, and they killed dragon age themselves with that abysmal sequel.

I'm hoping they pick up KOTOR 3 as a project. I can only imagine what they can do with a more RPG and combat centered game (much different then a MMO focused game) with modern technology..

[Chromie]

Man TOR really sucked and I was defending the game any chance I had.

xHarrison23 wrote...

Dansayshi wrote...

Im just wondering what new franchise Bioware will come up with.

After all ME3 is the last of the series, and they killed dragon age themselves with that abysmal sequel.

I'm hoping they pick up KOTOR 3 as a project. I can only imagine what they can do with a more RPG and combat centered game (much different then a MMO focused game) with modern technology..

 

I hope Obsidian does. Obsidian did a far better job with Kotor than Bioware.

Modifié par Ringo12, 26 février 2012 - 08:10 .

[xHarrison23]

jreezy wrote...

xHarrison23 wrote...

Dansayshi wrote...

Im just wondering what new franchise Bioware will come up with.

After all ME3 is the last of the series, and they killed dragon age themselves with that abysmal sequel.

I'm hoping they pick up KOTOR 3 as a project. I can only imagine what they can do with a more RPG and combat centered game (much different then a MMO focused game) with modern technology.

*cough*mass effect*cough*

I meant more with light sabers and space battles. Not the ME space battle cut scenes, like legit get in a fighter and blow **** up kinda deal. Not to mention the Jedi Force Powers(Ik very similar to biotics) ME is very shooter focused. I would like to see a melee and force power centric game

Modifié par xHarrison23, 26 février 2012 - 08:14 .

[xHarrison23]

Ringo12 wrote...

Man TOR really sucked and I was defending the game any chance I had.

xHarrison23 wrote...

Dansayshi wrote...

Im just wondering what new franchise Bioware will come up with.

After all ME3 is the last of the series, and they killed dragon age themselves with that abysmal sequel.

I'm hoping they pick up KOTOR 3 as a project. I can only imagine what they can do with a more RPG and combat centered game (much different then a MMO focused game) with modern technology..

 

I hope Obsidian does. Obsidian did a far better job with Kotor than Bioware.

I prefer Bioware's story

[TwistedComplex]

SLPr0 wrote...

Six thousand boxes a week post release isn't too shabby. If its keeping competitive with the sales of a major market dominator and its not even released any expansionary content yet, then it has a fair amount of potential.

And Greg was right, I stopped utilizing the TOR forums after release. There just wasn't any reason to be there. Still got both my wife and I's accounts active and we get on and do our PvP dailies every day or so and get back to waiting to see how the game sands off.

And last time I looked at the TOR forums, you couldn't keep a post on the general discussion forums front page what with all the activity.

Now if he was talking about BSN here, he probably said that because its more diplomatic than "Forum activity is dropping because the BSN appears to have attracted the most neurologically imbalanced people on the internet this side of 4chan."

Uh, ya it is pretty shabby when on it's 8th week, SWTOR sold 6k copies while Rift sold 8k on it's 8th week. Every graph, chart and statistic shows a massive decline in activity across the board

All signs point to dying, jim

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 26 février 2012 - 08:18 .

[Gabey5]

Rockpopple wrote...

What "Mass Effect fallout?"

From what I gather people are jazzed as hell over this game, and it's not even out yet.

there is a large contoversy sourrounding EA and Bioware with regards to dlc,origin, graphics/gameplay

[packardbell]

Rockpopple wrote...

What "Mass Effect fallout?"

From what I gather people are jazzed as hell over this game, and it's not even out yet.

Indeed, I haven't seen much outraged at all. Nothing will ever top their Bazaar which was only open to NA (excluding NY and some other state that I can't recall) in terms of community outrage. But this is a footnote compared to that - I too was a bit miffed off until someone posted a rational explanation to this and now it doesn't seem too bad.

It's like saying all the controversy COD gets but it ends up breaking it's previous sales record each year, in fact most purchases of the game will not venture onto these forums.. so really the only ourage we've seen are a minority in the span of things and will hardly, if anything effect the sales.

Infact, just to refresh peoples memories:

http://social.biowar...3/index/1960445 

Modifié par packardbell, 26 février 2012 - 08:35 .

[SLPr0]

TwistedComplex wrote...

SLPr0 wrote...

Six thousand boxes a week post release isn't too shabby. If its keeping competitive with the sales of a major market dominator and its not even released any expansionary content yet, then it has a fair amount of potential.

And Greg was right, I stopped utilizing the TOR forums after release. There just wasn't any reason to be there. Still got both my wife and I's accounts active and we get on and do our PvP dailies every day or so and get back to waiting to see how the game sands off.

And last time I looked at the TOR forums, you couldn't keep a post on the general discussion forums front page what with all the activity.

Now if he was talking about BSN here, he probably said that because its more diplomatic than "Forum activity is dropping because the BSN appears to have attracted the most neurologically imbalanced people on the internet this side of 4chan."

Uh, ya it is pretty shabby when on it's 8th week, SWTOR sold 6k copies while Rift sold 8k on it's 8th week. Every graph, chart and statistic shows a massive decline in activity across the board

All signs point to dying, jim

Well, whatever you want to believe, its all good. Cause yanno at the end of the day, your paycheck and my paycheck don't depend on TOR not dying.

And suffice it to say the people that do depend on TOR not dying are probably smarter than you and me both so, I'm sure they'll see this "massive decline", just like you do, and do something about it.

Sorta like Blizzard did after the 60 - 90 day honeymoon phase of WoW's release was over. And their initial 650,000 subs slumped back down to around 300k.

I think largely, you're selling a lot of really talented people short. But thats okay there were tons of people that did the same thing to Blizzard in 2005 after the honeymoon was over.

Again, whatever suits you is all good though. Rift selling 8 thousand copies in its 8th week can be explained a lot of different ways. One of them being that Rift was released in the middle of a gigantic game drought where no major titles were being released and there was a huge bored group of MMO players looking for something to do...but I digress.

I don't have to defend BioWare, their portfolio speaks for itself. And even the stuff they did that wasn't so good, was better than most of the stuff that is considered "good" developed by other development houses.

So yeah, its all going down the drain man. You're right. I'm sure EA share holders are throwing themselves out of windows this very minute after having reviewed your extremely well vetted and referenced opinions.

Modifié par SLPr0, 26 février 2012 - 08:47 .

[Moonshadow_Dark]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Ivoryhammer wrote...

What fallout? People are just whining about a companion that they will probably never use, and will have no impact on the story, like Zaeed.

You've met people who've said they'll probably never use the prothean?

No one ever uses the new squad mates. They do the mission, recruit, then proceed to make all their missions with their "Bro Squaddie" and their "Love Squaddie". The Bro Squaddie is usually the guy character they like the most like Garrus, Wrex or Mordin. The Love Squaddie is usually whoever they are boinking in the storyline so it's either Liara, Miranda or (and a small minority do this) Ashley Williams.

xHarrison23 wrote...

Dansayshi wrote...

Im just wondering what new franchise Bioware will come up with.

After all ME3 is the last of the series, and they killed dragon age themselves with that abysmal sequel.

I'm
hoping they pick up KOTOR 3 as a project. I can only imagine what they
can do with a more RPG and combat centered game (much different then a
MMO focused game) with modern technology..

KoTOR 3, 4 and 5 already dropped. It's an MMO now. Not doing as well as they figured. But I blame the Warcraft squatters who show up at new MMO launches for a month then migrate back to Warcraft when it becomes apparent that Warcraft did not die overnight and pretend that they were loyal fans all along.

Now personally, I'd rather they do another Jade Empire game. People are getting hyped over Mists of Pandaria, the new WoW expansion that features heavy basis on Far Eastern cultures. The market is ripe for a new kind of game and martial arts fighting RPG is the one territory no one else has gotten on since Kung Fu Chaos on the original Xbox. If Bioware could take the freeflow combat of the Batman: Arkham series and apply it to a rich storyline, they would own the market and get a head start on everyone before people start copying Blizzard and making Eastern games/expansions to their games.

Modifié par Moonshadow_Dark, 26 février 2012 - 09:06 .

[Bleachrude]

TwistedComplex wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

That's hilarious, given the harassment of Hepler by so-called fans who, clearly, provoked the woman beyond belief by the time of the Twitter incident. What do you call those people, shining paragons of virtue and civility?

You're right they're just "Jelous they don't have a vagina and a job in the industry"

We're all enveous of Jennifers womanhood and fanfic level writing

Um, how should she should respond given the amount of hate directed at her...

[SirDoctorofTARDIS]

SWTOR is nowhere near death. SO far it has only been released in America and EU and is only now coming to the Asia-Pacific region so sales will go up as SWTOR expands into new areas.

[Arppis]

How about you play the game before you start assuming. People hated DA2 also, I actualy liked it quite a bit. Sure it had it's flaws, but they were nothing I couldn't stand.

If you don't like their products, then yeah don't buy them. I still think they are doing a good job.

Modifié par Arppis, 26 février 2012 - 10:35 .