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[Wurm65]

I am playing a Dwarven Noble.

After leaving the get your feet wet starting village of Lothering, I first went to the Warden's Tower DLC and then straight back home to Orzammar.

And while I am enjoying it, I'm starting to think it was a mistake to tackle it first.

Anyone have any recommendations?

[chiliztri]

From a tactical viewpoint, I'd hit the Circle of Magi first. You get Wynne and you get a bunch of permanent attribute increases.



Orzammar is brutal, but since you're already there you can do the first part of the quest(ie, proving your loyalty to either side), and the sidequests.



The beauty of DA:O is that most of the time you can leave and come back later.

[interesting03]

Circle tower and redcliffe are the easiest. You should probably tackle them first.

[soteria]

I would do: Lothering, Redcliffe, Mage Tower, Brecilian Forest, Denerim, Urn of Sacred Ashes, and then Orzammar. As far as I can tell that's about the most efficient method in terms of travel time and close to the easiest as far as level scaling.

[StuartMarshall]

I would recommend...



Brecilian Forest -> Mage's Tower -> Orzammar -> Denerim -> Urn of Sacred Ashes



I personally think that Denerim ties in more to the Landsmeet than the other three "recruitment" areas so think leaving it (and the subsequent Urn of Sacred Ashes quest) last is the best way to do it.

[ruleonecardio]

In terms of the plot, it makes sense to go to Lothering, then Redcliffe.(Next I do the Urn of Sacred Ashes bit). It makes sense as Arl Eamon is the one guy you really need to start garnering support, and really give organization to your efforts to stop Loghain and start fighting the Blight. I mean otherwise he is lying deathly ill for the majority of the game lol. But you can do it however you want.

[soteria]

/shrug



I don't know why you would do Brecilian Forest before Mage Tower, and your way you miss out on the dragonbone armor until right before the Landsmeet, and you aren't picking up any of the job board quests from Denerim that take you all over the world until you've already been everywhere. Each to his own, though.

[Lughsan35]

I meander based on what seems most important based on the NPCs reactions.. last playthrough I ended up in Denerim almost immediately after Lothering because of Leiliana and her side quest.. I only did that and then went to the mage tower, ozrammar and redcliffe last..



The first time I went to redcliffe because that's what dippy the doogooder recommended..and my girl was trying to decide if she like him or leiliana more..



She ended up alone but well liked by both

[StuartMarshall]

StuartMarshall wrote...

I would recommend...

Brecilian Forest -> Mage's Tower -> Orzammar -> Denerim -> Urn of Sacred Ashes

I personally think that Denerim ties in more to the Landsmeet than the other three "recruitment" areas so think leaving it (and the subsequent Urn of Sacred Ashes quest) last is the best way to do it.

Oops... I meant Redcliffe, not Denerim there. I leave Denerim till last usual.

[jinx01313]

I start in on denerim board (side) quests before the urn of ashes and sometimes before completing red-cliff castle. It is also handy for getting companion quests completed without feeling like the last third of the game is in Denerim.

Basically tower, first half of Oz, redcliffe, elves, deep roads, back to redcliffe, start search of Urn, which takes you to denerim, finish job board quests, avoid the pearl until after haven/temple, campanion quests, then the Urn, no landsmeet, back to denerim, finish rogue time quests (if playing a rogue), head to the pearl, then start the landsmeet without any distractions. 

Modifié par jinx01313, 25 novembre 2009 - 08:26 .

[MartinJHolm]

Actually there is a description in the missing manual project, it shows what "base-level" the different areas are



http://dragonage.gul...allenge_scaling

[HoLyEmperor]

Everyone is wrong.



Lothering -> [Get Shale if you want her] -> Circle Tower -> Redcliffe -> [Circle Tower, if you want the "good" option] -> Denerim -> Haven -> Redcliffe -> Denerim -> [Other stuff].



Why? Get Wynne and stat bonuses. Get drake and dragon scale armor. Move on. The High Dragon off Haven can be done at level 12, even on Nightmare, and that's about the level you'll be if you go in this order. (You may have to apply some cheese though, such as turning off your tank's AI so he doesn't do melee attacks...).

[Mesecina]

My problem with doing Orzammar late in the game is you get Oghren late and it's kinda hard to raise approval with him with only Landsmeet left (actually I've yet to figure what the guy likes apart from booze since he never really comments on any of PC's actions for me) but I guess that's no biggie, however I did it like that in first playthrough and really felt I missed a lot of his interactions and stuff.



But Broken Circle is probably the best to start with as you get Wynne and stats boost (which is great especially if you're a warrior and would love to max coercion but don't want to invest in cunning)

[KalosCast]

Definitely get the stat bonuses as soon as possible, therefore that +2 will make a more appreciable difference.

[HoLyEmperor]

Mesecina wrote...

My problem with doing Orzammar late in the game is you get Oghren late and it's kinda hard to raise approval with him with only Landsmeet left (actually I've yet to figure what the guy likes apart from booze since he never really comments on any of PC's actions for me) but I guess that's no biggie, however I did it like that in first playthrough and really felt I missed a lot of his interactions and stuff.

He likes...booze.  And sex.  Especially with Wynne. 

And if you make a pit stop on the way to wherever and go back to camp, he likes every other gift too, up to a few.

[therealmikeg]

Do Denerim first. There are a lot of easy quests that can be knocked out there. Then do the Mage Tower. From there, hit the Elves up. After the Elves, do Redcliffe. Finally, hit Orzammar.



This is what I've found to be the optimum order. You can actually complete Haven before visiting Redcliffe if you do things in Denerim correctly.

[Boeresmurf]

feel free to do anything u want in different orders to get different experiences. just keep 2 things in mind

1: orzammar has some hard deep road encounter same as denerim patrols en back alley's

2: denerim and redcliffe both give quests for all over the map, so u need to revisist places more often.



i prefer shale part - tower - orzammar untill deep roads - redcliff - sacred ashes - denerim - deep road - bresilican forest. but that was only with my last playthrough

[Wurm65]

MartinJHolm wrote...

Actually there is a description in the missing manual project, it shows what "base-level" the different areas are

http://dragonage.gul...allenge_scaling

Thanks for that, I did the boss fight in the proving at level 8... he conned red to me and at the end it was just him and me and a ton of healing pots

I finished off the Carta and Jarvia last night and started on the deep roads before logging out. I'm thinking of reloading my save right before going back to Lord Harrowmont and going to the Mage Tower for the Dwarven Teenager who wants to join them, finishing the mage tower quests and then going back to Oraz.

Sound like a plan?

[Saurel]

I got characters fairly late so far. Went Red Cliffe- Circle of Magi- Dalish- then Orzammar.



Circle and Orzammar seem like they would be good priority if you want to get your squad mates sooner rather than later.

[Forsakerr]

i always start with some quests in Denerim >WK>Shale> Orzammar>circle of magi>redcliff>ashes>brecilian forest and do all the side quests possible , first playtrough i had went to Orzammar the last but since Ohgren is so funny and hard to rise his approval if you get him last i decided to start getting him first instead in the others

[menasure]

i know one thing: i'm going to take the bracilian forest sooner in my next play through. lots of herbs for those much needed health potions. it is hard doing stuff like the deep roads without enough of them.

Modifié par menasure, 25 novembre 2009 - 10:07 .

[asaiasai]

That depends entirely on the class i am running. If i need heals because i am a warrior or melee class i do the tower first, if i play a mage then i do redcliffe first. I have completed 3 playthroughs 2 warriors and a mage (heals), this play through is another mage (dps) b/u heals so healers are not an issue. Mostly though i do what i need to to avoid any and all reliance on Morrigan. She is as far as i am concerned the only character in the game i would love to remove from play early. It seems the developers have a sado masochistic bent and have decided to strap you with the annoying, never trust worthy, useless, thats right i said it and i meant it, usless Morrigan.



Asai

[Wurm65]

I like her, the interplay between her and Alistair makes me chuckle.

[BanditGR]

You definitely want to hit Honnleath as soon as you are done with Lothering, especially if you are a melee class. There are just some (basically "free") items there (Helmet, ring, dagger etc) that will make you life significantly easier, not to mention getting another companion fast.

After this, I'd personally hit the Warden's Keep, in order to get Warden's Commander armor and Avernus Robes early on, not to mention making Starfang, after you wander around in the map, to trigger the "Superman" encounter. Generally, you just CANT go wrong by doing all the DLC stuff first. They are (relatively) short, in terms of playime, not particularly challenging and yield some of the best and irreplacable items in the entire game (which is imo one of the biggest drawbacks of the DLC in relation to the rest of the game, but that is a discussion for a different topic).

Afterwards it's really more of a personal choice. The Circle Tower and Ozrammar will provide you with companions, while the rest of the places will not. Difficulty wise, RedCliffe and the Circle are the easiest, though I'd try to avoid RedCliffe early on if you are lacking in the AoE/CC department. Just go to the Circle and grab Wynne fast, not to mention the amazing stat boosts. After that it really depends on the class. An Arcane Warrior wannabe for instance, will want to reach Haven and the caves asap, for a particular sword. Ozrammar is a huge and tedious dungeon crawl after a certain point, with some potentially challenging encounters, so I'd rather save it for let's say after level 15 or so, since you can do a good part of it, without wandering far into the Deep Roads. I'd typically visit Denerim and start doing quests there, after the first major hub is completed, it's still challenging in certain places, with the proper talents, far from impossible.

Modifié par BanditGR, 25 novembre 2009 - 10:42 .

[Vaeliorin]

Personally, I just finished my second playthrough tonight, and both times I've done Tower->Brecilian Forest->Redcliffe->Haven->Orzammar->Denerim.



Of course, I usually hit up Denerim early and pick up all the available sidequests, and turn them in as I get them done.