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fropas wrote...

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I understand that but it's not Biowares duty to change every thing due to a small bunch's sickness.  
i'm sorry she won't be able to look at naked fem shep, but it's not reasonable to change it for that reason. 


No reason other than the fact that she doesn't look at all like someone who could hold their own in a fight of any kind.

FemShep and ManShep are supposed to be completely equal. Two sides of the same coin. Yet their level of strength and muscle tone is miles apart. Why is that?

Women who do what FemShep does do not look like that. My sister is an athlete who competes on the world level. She works out, hardcore, for 4-5 hours a day.. more during the summer when preparing for Team Canada. You cannot see her bones, they are covered with muscle. She is still slender (size 6) but she is in no way built like FemShep. The point here is that someone who does physical things, kicks as much ass as Shepard will not be built like that. Thin, yes, skin and bones, no.


Female shepard could weigh 200 lbs of muscle and could still not look like she could hold their own in a fight against ANYTHING shes against. This game is not realism. it's space magic.
and she is not skin and bones, again just because your ribs are showing does not mean you are underweight. 
Genetics determine your body type beyond anything. Some people are born skinnier than others and there are plenty who i'm sure look like femshep and are completle healthy. 


So basically, even though she doesn't look healthy--she "could" be healthy.

Why would I be okay with that? To me that just sounds like BW failed to make FemShep appealing, even though they changed her body type to appeal to more people, but that's just me.


She looks completley healthy to me. Said this 1000 times but again: it can be completley natrual to have a showing ribcage. 

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Today I learned that people are aware they live in an ableist world, but they don't want that to change because that would be too much work.

Unfortunately, that is nothing new.


People just like it that way.

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Butthead11 wrote...
 
Genetics determine your body type beyond anything. Some people are born skinnier than others and there are plenty who i'm sure look like femshep and are completle healthy. 

Hah, so then why does FemShep look so much skinnier than in ME1 or ME2?

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Oh god. My eyes. THEY ARE BURNING.


Good thing there's no ass-window huh?Image IPB

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Slothful Koala wrote...

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The eating disorder is not the games problem, to suggest it's unfair that Bioware made a character skinny because your sick is silly. Expecially when i bet you will never be forced to not wear clothes. 
Homophobia may not be a great example, but i'm sure people can get just as seeing a super ripped males body as a skinny female body. 

I think you're confused. It's poor choice. Not very military girl looking, more like "I want to be skinnier so I went and threw up in the bathroom." which, as I'd hope you could imagine, could be offensive.

I hope whoever was upset and called it their trigger isn't to offended by this. I <3 U


Trigger girls probaly weren't offended, but anyone with a prominenet rib cage probaly was. 

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BillsVengenace wrote...

Dresses like these would have been much more appropriate and have portrayed FemShep as a mature, eloquent and elegant woman worthy of your respect as she has respect.

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Any modders out there, take note:
I will pay good f***ing money if you make a model of that dress that I can mod onto my FemShep.

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I listened to the think in your sig.

...Wut was that?


Sorry, I just saw this.

It was EPICNESS. The best J-pop you've ever heard.

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Butthead11 wrote...

She looks completley healthy to me. Said this 1000 times but again: it can be completley natrual to have a showing ribcage. 


Ok, she looks healthy. She just doesn't look like a soldier. She looks like she would be better off baking pies. 

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She looks completley healthy to me. Said this 1000 times but again: it can be completley natrual to have a showing ribcage. 


Ew, Butthead. Ew. that's all I'm going to say.

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HAWT! Image IPB
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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

J-pop

Hmm.

Not sure if want?

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Butthead11 wrote...

Slothful Koala wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...
The eating disorder is not the games problem, to suggest it's unfair that Bioware made a character skinny because your sick is silly. Expecially when i bet you will never be forced to not wear clothes. 
Homophobia may not be a great example, but i'm sure people can get just as seeing a super ripped males body as a skinny female body. 

I think you're confused. It's poor choice. Not very military girl looking, more like "I want to be skinnier so I went and threw up in the bathroom." which, as I'd hope you could imagine, could be offensive.

I hope whoever was upset and called it their trigger isn't to offended by this. I <3 U


Trigger girls probaly weren't offended, but anyone with a prominenet rib cage probaly was. 



A.) bulemia doesn't exactly work that way.

B.) Don't make fun of me for being triggered and don't make up a name to make fun of me being triggered. 

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Soundsystem wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

I understand that but it's not Biowares duty to change every thing due to a small bunch's sickness.  
i'm sorry she won't be able to look at naked fem shep, but it's not reasonable to change it for that reason. 


No reason other than the fact that she doesn't look at all like someone who could hold their own in a fight of any kind.

FemShep and ManShep are supposed to be completely equal. Two sides of the same coin. Yet their level of strength and muscle tone is miles apart. Why is that?

Women who do what FemShep does do not look like that. My sister is an athlete who competes on the world level. She works out, hardcore, for 4-5 hours a day.. more during the summer when preparing for Team Canada. You cannot see her bones, they are covered with muscle. She is still slender (size 6) but she is in no way built like FemShep. The point here is that someone who does physical things, kicks as much ass as Shepard will not be built like that. Thin, yes, skin and bones, no.


Female shepard could weigh 200 lbs of muscle and could still not look like she could hold their own in a fight against ANYTHING shes against. This game is not realism. it's space magic.
and she is not skin and bones, again just because your ribs are showing does not mean you are underweight. 
Genetics determine your body type beyond anything. Some people are born skinnier than others and there are plenty who i'm sure look like femshep and are completle healthy. 


ManShep looks like he can hold his own. She doesn't need to be ripped, as she if generally using a gun. But she should look like she is capable of holding up those guns for long periods of time, running with them, occassionally smashing people in the face with them, etc.

She is skin and bones, because you can see her ribs. I never said she was unhealthy, that was nowhere in my post. However, people who are naturally thin do not generally have ribs showing in the way these are. Jack is still very tiny, but her bones do not show. 

Some people do naturally look like that but when you go through army training (at a N7 level), and fight people and do as much intense physical work as Shepard does: You will gain muscle. Your ribs with not show. Your arms will not be delicate toothpicks. This is a fact. It's not about her being healthy, it's about how a body looks when it does the physical work that Shep's does on a regular basis. 

Shepard does not look like he could hold his own against 1/2 the stuff hes against. and she would need to be ripped in order to look strong enough to hold grenade launchers,Shotguns,Snipers,and ARs all at once on her back. 

and your ribs can show even with muscle. That is a fact. Genetics play a majior role in body shape and muscle will not always show/build in the same way with different indivduals. 

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Hmm.

Not sure if want?


You know you do.

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D.Kain wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Today I learned that people are aware they live in an ableist world, but they don't want that to change because that would be too much work.

Unfortunately, that is nothing new.


People just like it that way.


I don't think so, they just want someone else to do a job that we all must do.

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Looking at the new dress, I want the dress from ME2 back. D8
Or pants. I WANT PANTS.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Bill, were you born in the 1940s? Or are you (still) trolling?


It is not nice to call people trolls.  Please, I would hope that is beneath you.  I trust you are a person of class.

Age has nothing to do with it.  Are you seriously saying the dress BioWare "designed" is better/more appropriate than any of the ones I posted? 

Modifié par BillsVengenace, 27 février 2012 - 06:20 .


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Butthead11 wrote...

Shepard does not look like he could hold his own against 1/2 the stuff hes against. and she would need to be ripped in order to look strong enough to hold grenade launchers,Shotguns,Snipers,and ARs all at once on her back. 

and your ribs can show even with muscle. That is a fact. Genetics play a majior role in body shape and muscle will not always show/build in the same way with different indivduals. 


So why isn't she ripped like she can hold a rocket launcher? 

Ribs are fine.

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BillsVengenace wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

Bill, were you born in the 1940s? Or are you (still) trolling?


It is not nice to call people trolls.  Please, I would hope that is beneath you.  I trust you are a person of class.

Age has nothing to do with it.  Are you seriously saying the dress BioWare "designed" is better/more appropriate than any of the ones I posted? 


How about no dress at all hm? How about a Jacket for both gendera?

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

Slothful Koala wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...
The eating disorder is not the games problem, to suggest it's unfair that Bioware made a character skinny because your sick is silly. Expecially when i bet you will never be forced to not wear clothes. 
Homophobia may not be a great example, but i'm sure people can get just as seeing a super ripped males body as a skinny female body. 

I think you're confused. It's poor choice. Not very military girl looking, more like "I want to be skinnier so I went and threw up in the bathroom." which, as I'd hope you could imagine, could be offensive.

I hope whoever was upset and called it their trigger isn't to offended by this. I <3 U


Trigger girls probaly weren't offended, but anyone with a prominenet rib cage probaly was. 



A.) bulemia doesn't exactly work that way.

B.) Don't make fun of me for being triggered and don't make up a name to make fun of me being triggered. 

A) i didn't make any mention of Bulemeia in what you quoted...i barley said anything. 
B) i didn't mention you and did not make fun of you in anway....

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Butthead, you're bending over backwards to justify your opinion and it's making you look like a gigantic... butthead. You could at least show some respect for sashimi's issues.

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D.Kain wrote...

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Shepard does not look like he could hold his own against 1/2 the stuff hes against. and she would need to be ripped in order to look strong enough to hold grenade launchers,Shotguns,Snipers,and ARs all at once on her back. 

and your ribs can show even with muscle. That is a fact. Genetics play a majior role in body shape and muscle will not always show/build in the same way with different indivduals. 


So why isn't she ripped like she can hold a rocket launcher? 

Ribs are fine.

Male shepard isn't ripped enough to carry around a rocket launcher with other weapons on his back.

Rocket launchers aren't exactly run and gun material. 

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Butthead11 wrote...

Shepard does not look like he could hold his own against 1/2 the stuff hes against. and she would need to be ripped in order to look strong enough to hold grenade launchers,Shotguns,Snipers,and ARs all at once on her back. 

and your ribs can show even with muscle. That is a fact. Genetics play a majior role in body shape and muscle will not always show/build in the same way with different indivduals. 


-Fact: FemShep looks like she has more ribs than muscle.
-Fact: FemShep looks like she has bad genetics
-Fact: you need muscles to fire and carry powerful assualt rifles accurately.

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Butthead11 wrote...

A) i didn't make any mention of Bulemeia in what you quoted...i barley said anything. 
B) i didn't mention you and did not make fun of you in anway....




For point a i was talking to slothful koala to let him know facts about EDs. And for point b, you said "trigger girls". 

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It's pretty clear that the whole game was built and written with sheploo as canon shep. Watch the cinematic with femshep on Virmire, walking to the Normandy with all of Kaidans weight on her shoulder.