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[Confused-Shepard]

Ok wow! Information overload! On one had I am quite happy that Shep can cosplay as Brando from Easy Rider but I also agree that FemShep needs a little more meat on her bones and should look heftier. Many military women do in fact look like MMA fighters by virtue of the sheer physical training they have to go through.


[quote]fropas wrote...

[quote]Obvakhi wrote...

From what I learned reading this thread:
1. Having ribs showing = anorexic
2. Military women must look like cage fighters


Ok[/quote]


Yes her. She looks anorexic. Is that not true?[/quote]

I'm going to be honest here. This is what the women at rehab looked like when they were halfway to he goal weight of minimally healthy. It isn't they way women looked when they first came in, but it wasn't the optimum size.

[/quote]

This is why the PC version rules above all others. Saving the galaxy in your lingerie.

[Arcadian Legend]

Udina trolling? wat is this. *looks further black in thread*

...WAT IS THIS

[movieguyabw]

Butthead11 wrote...

movieguyabw wrote...

Butthead11 wrote...

Who said shepard is the male ideal to everyone? 

Now I'm starting to feel convinced that you're trolling.

i'm convinced you can't see others viewpoints and when someone disagrees with you, you pull the troll card. 


I
don't think male shepard is my ideal body type or personality. but i'm
sure some do, and bioware can't make everyone happy.  to imply that all
women think femshep is a bad example of a hero is silly. 

*sigh*

If
you really needed clarification that not everyone shared the same
ideal, then I don't know what to say.  To imply that I implied that
*all* women will think the same exact way about a character is
erroneous, and small minded.

My point was never about how
*everyone* will view the characters the same exact way, but it was about
what they were supposed to represent.

The ancient greeks had a
theory that if the height of your head compared to the length of your
arm was a specific ratio, that you had the "perfect" body.

This
was their ideal.  It doesn't mean that everyone subscribed to it.  Just
as the popular male ideal is smart, sophisticated, rich, has a muscular
build like Shepard, and can get any woman he wants.  Does that mean
every guy wants to be the same exact thing?  No.  That's kindergardener
stuff; I thought this discussion was beyond such simple truths as
"everyone is different".  Which is why I thought you were trolling.

When
creating a protagonist for a story, the idea is to create a character
that the audience can relate to, and someone they would want to be. 
When you ask someone suffering from an eating disorder such as anorexia,
to associate with a character who looks like:


and it *triggers* them, that's not a very good sign.  A quick search on anorexia statistics yields this: 

"• Up to 24 million people of all ages and genders suffer from an eating
disorder (anorexia, bulimia and binge eating disorder) in the U.S.3"

Now, I'm not saying every single one of them is a potential customer, or would be affected by this.  But if the game still hasn't come out yet and we're getting some adverse reactions to this, it's something to look into.  And if it is a case where many are having similar negative reactions, then that's a large chunk of a potential audience you're either alienating, harming, or otherwise missing out on.  To say "Oh, well you still have Garrus, and you don't have to take your clothes off" is just wrong.  It's saying it's alright to deprive people of a part of a game simply because of a sickness that in most cases is beyond their control.

[Prom001]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Today I learned that people are aware they live in an ableist world, but they don't want that to change because that would be too much work.

Unfortunately, that is nothing new.

it is called the internet where the truth always comes out.

[D.Kain]

BhelShep wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

From what I learned reading this thread:
1. Having ribs showing = anorexic
2. Military women must look like cage fighters


Ok

Well, I've learned that apparently I'm unhealthy, can't save the galaxy and also that I might be French. Whatever.

We're trolling Udina now (that sexy beast) much much funner! C'mon, join in!!!

Probably not save the galaxy but, is the other part about the ribs? lol

[Saints_]

BentOrgy wrote...

android654 wrote...

Crawlingkingsnake wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

I'm bringing this back up, because people need to know it exists

Shepard finally got tired of Kasumi talking about Jacob's abs and he finally went to the gym. It's also where we recruit Vega.

Never gets old.

I particularly love the fact that Bioware didn't him sickeningly "Buff."  His shoulders and neck are still human looking, his legs are muscular but not kagaroo-ish, his chest is pronounced but not inflated, strong arms and abs without going with the cliché "Six pack."

He looks like a soldier, kept in shape by fighting and working out to keep fighting. Not some steroid-sculpted Mr. Universe.

Like the guy to his left?

[ItsFreakinJesus]

Female Shepard isn't anorexic.  She has the torso and arms of Taylor Swift, boobs of Yvonne Strahovski, and the legs and ass of Beyonce.

She's Frankeinsteins woman at most, not anorexic.

[Revan312]

Just to go completely off topic, here's a super cool website I discovered today that shows the scale of things from the smallest known particles up to the observable universe. You can also click on each picture for more information on it and more specific sizes.

htwins.net/scale2/

Modifié par Revan312, 27 février 2012 - 07:23 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Udina trolling? wat is this. *looks further black in thread*

...WAT IS THIS

I KNO RITE.

[AlanC9]

Revan312 wrote...
A scrawny little girl with arms thinner than my wrists has always been known to be weak. period. She's what one would call an "easy kill" for a predator in the wild. Weak, looks sickly, an easy meal.

Even with firearms?

If anything, being smaller makes you a smaller target. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 27 février 2012 - 07:25 .

[tetrisblock4x1]

I think the asari strippers had more muscle than femshep.

[What a Succulent Ass]

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

She's Frankeinsteins woman at most, not anorexic.

This. The model is leaning toward the ectomorphic (the arms and torso, anyway), but the freakishness is caused mostly by the model (which all female characters use) utilising the male rig.

[Sashimi_taco]

I don't think she is anorexic, just an FYI. I just think the bone definition is the most difficult thing to deal with. When i go from seeing femshep as an overall pretty smooth person, implying body fat, to a pretty angular person, it is shocking. The same as if I had seen someone lose a lot of weight. I think that is what is bothering me, the illusion that femshep has lost a lot of weight. Which is a big deal to me.

I think that if i just look at the new body model and get used to it it will be fine. The first time I saw it, it was overwhelming and I had physical anxiety but the more i see it the less it is impacting me.

[Revan312]

AlanC9 wrote...

Revan312 wrote...
A scrawny little girl with arms thinner than my wrists has always been known to be weak. period. She's what one would call an "easy kill" for a predator in the wild. Weak, looks sickly, an easy meal.

Even with firearms?

If anything, being smaller makes you a smaller target. 

And makes it difficult to fire said guns properly.  Watch my sister shoot a large rifle, it's pretty funny, and yes she knows the proper stances and ways to hold a firearm.  In fact look up girl shooting in youtube and you'll understand my meaning as it showcases both fit and skinny women.. 

[Kmead15]

fropas wrote...



Yes her. She looks anorexic. Is that not true?

The main issue I take with her isn't that she's skinny, but that she doesn't look fit. Her legs aren't too bad, but from the waist up she's looks like she's built like me. Now I'm no anorexic, but there's certain toddlers that could beat me in an arm wrestling match. I suppose you could argue that maybe she just has a bunch of lean muscle, but I don't really see any definition there.

Honestly, I wonder if part of the issue might be the skelatons. She shares one with maleShep, right? Putting her in heels makes their legs match up, but you can't really do the same for if her arms. It could be they're so long that it makes them appear less bulky than they would if they fit right. Still, you'd think Bioware would bother to compensate for that.

[D.Kain]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I don't think she is anorexic, just an FYI. I just think the bone definition is the most difficult thing to deal with. When i go from seeing femshep as an overall pretty smooth person, implying body fat, to a pretty angular person, it is shocking. The same as if I had seen someone lose a lot of weight. I think that is what is bothering me, the illusion that femshep has lost a lot of weight. Which is a big deal to me.

I think that if i just look at the new body model and get used to it it will be fine. The first time I saw it, it was overwhelming and I had physical anxiety but the more i see it the less it is impacting me.

Anderson: "Getting rough around the edges." 

=)

[Sashimi_taco]

D.Kain wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I don't think she is anorexic, just an FYI. I just think the bone definition is the most difficult thing to deal with. When i go from seeing femshep as an overall pretty smooth person, implying body fat, to a pretty angular person, it is shocking. The same as if I had seen someone lose a lot of weight. I think that is what is bothering me, the illusion that femshep has lost a lot of weight. Which is a big deal to me.

I think that if i just look at the new body model and get used to it it will be fine. The first time I saw it, it was overwhelming and I had physical anxiety but the more i see it the less it is impacting me.

Anderson: "Getting rough around the edges." 

=)

I can roleplay with this. Femshep losing weight due to stress about feeling out of control about the reapers and the trial, and as she feels more confident by gaining more war assests and fighting the reapers she eats more and gains weight. 

[D.Kain]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I don't think she is anorexic, just an FYI. I just think the bone definition is the most difficult thing to deal with. When i go from seeing femshep as an overall pretty smooth person, implying body fat, to a pretty angular person, it is shocking. The same as if I had seen someone lose a lot of weight. I think that is what is bothering me, the illusion that femshep has lost a lot of weight. Which is a big deal to me.

I think that if i just look at the new body model and get used to it it will be fine. The first time I saw it, it was overwhelming and I had physical anxiety but the more i see it the less it is impacting me.

Anderson: "Getting rough around the edges." 

=)

I can roleplay with this. Femshep losing weight due to stress about feeling out of control about the reapers and the trial, and as she feels more confident by gaining more war assests and fighting the reapers she eats more and gains weight. 

And then she will be like Rarrr!  



jk.

Modifié par D.Kain, 27 février 2012 - 07:40 .

[Confused-Shepard]

Kmead15 wrote...

fropas wrote...



Yes her. She looks anorexic. Is that not true?

The main issue I take with her isn't that she's skinny, but that she doesn't look fit. Her legs aren't too bad, but from the waist up she's looks like she's built like me. Now I'm no anorexic, but there's certain toddlers that could beat me in an arm wrestling match. I suppose you could argue that maybe she just has a bunch of lean muscle, but I don't really see any definition there.

Honestly, I wonder if part of the issue might be the skelatons. She shares one with maleShep, right? Putting her in heels makes their legs match up, but you can't really do the same for if her arms. It could be they're so long that it makes them appear less bulky than they would if they fit right. Still, you'd think Bioware would bother to compensate for that.

The more I see that picture, the uglier it looks. Honestly why did they do that with FemShep?
Her body shape is all kinds of weird. Nice thickness in the lower regions but as you said the moment you go above the waist she becomes nearly anorexic. Look at her stomach. Comapre with ManShep who looks like a regular dude that hits the gym everyday and keeps himself in top shape. Go to your local gym and tell me if you find ANYONE who looks like FemShep here. 


It's a minor issue but just makes you think, "Why?" Not a single person thought, "Hey! Get her a sandwich!"  

[What a Succulent Ass]

D.Kain wrote...

MOOOAAAR

...eye bleach, please. Christ.

[Confused-Shepard]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I don't think she is anorexic, just an FYI. I just think the bone definition is the most difficult thing to deal with. When i go from seeing femshep as an overall pretty smooth person, implying body fat, to a pretty angular person, it is shocking. The same as if I had seen someone lose a lot of weight. I think that is what is bothering me, the illusion that femshep has lost a lot of weight. Which is a big deal to me.

I think that if i just look at the new body model and get used to it it will be fine. The first time I saw it, it was overwhelming and I had physical anxiety but the more i see it the less it is impacting me.

Anderson: "Getting rough around the edges." 

=)

So that's what he meant.

This line has no meaning anymore. Rough around the edges? Where?
More like, "OMG Shepard! Were you in a concentration camp?!"