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[MisterJB]

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

Female Salarians can lay eggs without the males. However, those eggs are unfertilized and they only produce more males.
In order to produce females, the male must fertilize the eggs. However, this process is limited by the complex salarian clan politics.
Thus, 90% of the species is male.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

MisterJB wrote...

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

Female Salarians can lay eggs without the males. However, those eggs are unfertilized and they only produce more males.
In order to produce females, the male must fertilize the eggs. However, this process is limited by the complex salarian clan politics.
Thus, 90% of the species is male.

I'm trying to figure how that works in terms of chromosomes, assuming Salarian DNA works like IRL DNA.

#OverthinkingMassEffect

[wizardryforever]

Well since the Turians are based off of avians or reptiles, and such animals have flashy males and drab females, it does make sense.  I would have preferred something more aesthetically pleasing, but it's also nice to have females in the game that aren't the least bit sexy.  Rachni don't count.

[idoless24]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

In-Universe Answer: eusocial animals can get away with having a very small number of breeding members because the ones that do breed have lots of babbies.

Real Answer: Because Bioware is only interested in making female versions of aliens if the aliens are hawt space bisexuals.

This.

[BentOrgy]

wizardryforever wrote...

but it's also nice to have females in the game that aren't the least bit sexy.  Rachni don't count.

Pssh, have you seen those tentacles?

[What a Succulent Ass]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Seriously though. What the sh*t?

[firefireblow]

MisterJB wrote...

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

Female Salarians can lay eggs without the males. However, those eggs are unfertilized and they only produce more males.
In order to produce females, the male must fertilize the eggs. However, this process is limited by the complex salarian clan politics.
Thus, 90% of the species is male.

whelp this plus your picture just made my night worse.

Im now off, good-day sir.

[Mims]

I'm pretty sure salarian fertilization [and society] seems to be taken a bit from bees. And, if I remember right, don't queen bees actually have more chromosomes then the males? Or at least the drones. Something.

But bioware, do not fill my black heart with hope for female turians.

[RoboticWater]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

Female Salarians can lay eggs without the males. However, those eggs are unfertilized and they only produce more males.
In order to produce females, the male must fertilize the eggs. However, this process is limited by the complex salarian clan politics.
Thus, 90% of the species is male.

I'm trying to figure how that works in terms of chromosomes, assuming Salarian DNA works like IRL DNA.

#OverthinkingMassEffect

I'll ask my Bio teacher, she might have an answer.

[BentOrgy]

AwesomeName wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

That comic makes no sense: In ME2 Garrus specifically mentions to FemShep that, if she was a Turian, he'd compliment her "Head-fringe," meaning that both males and females have it.

Unless Garrus is gay, and humans are an exception.... <3

But the female turian does have a fringe...  It's just different.  It also curves upwards at the tips in a similar way to how an asari's "head tentacles" do (possibly what the bachelor party turian was talking about - either that, or bachelor turian was saying asari look like male turians).

I wouldn't really call that fringe. She's fairly bald and what little comes off from her face wraps around her head, hugging it.

[Mims]

Or the inevitable conclusion that they wrote the romance before designing them. Or, Female turians are very sensitive about their fringes, hence why you'd better compliment them. He did seem nervous.

[CrazyCatDude]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

Female Salarians can lay eggs without the males. However, those eggs are unfertilized and they only produce more males.
In order to produce females, the male must fertilize the eggs. However, this process is limited by the complex salarian clan politics.
Thus, 90% of the species is male.

I'm trying to figure how that works in terms of chromosomes, assuming Salarian DNA works like IRL DNA.

#OverthinkingMassEffect

Salarian Males only have half as many chromosomes as females.

From the Codex entry:

The salarians are amphibian haplo-diploid egg-layers; unfertilized eggs
produce males and fertilized eggs produce females. Once a year, a
salarian female will lay a clutch of dozens of eggs. Social rules
prevent all but a fraction from being fertilized. As a result, 90% of
the species is male.

[Asenza]

bleetman wrote...

Translation: we couldn't think how to make this sexy.

Oh, god.

Modifié par Asenza, 27 février 2012 - 04:09 .

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

CrazyCatDude wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

Female Salarians can lay eggs without the males. However, those eggs are unfertilized and they only produce more males.
In order to produce females, the male must fertilize the eggs. However, this process is limited by the complex salarian clan politics.
Thus, 90% of the species is male.

I'm trying to figure how that works in terms of chromosomes, assuming Salarian DNA works like IRL DNA.

#OverthinkingMassEffect

Salarian Males only have half as many chromosomes as females.

From the Codex entry:

The salarians are amphibian haplo-diploid egg-layers; unfertilized eggs
produce males and fertilized eggs produce females. Once a year, a
salarian female will lay a clutch of dozens of eggs. Social rules
prevent all but a fraction from being fertilized. As a result, 90% of
the species is male.

That... actually makes total sense. Guess I should read moar codex.

Modifié par Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut, 27 février 2012 - 04:13 .

[BentOrgy]

AwesomeName wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

That comic makes no sense: In ME2 Garrus specifically mentions to FemShep that, if she was a Turian, he'd compliment her "Head-fringe," meaning that both males and females have it.

Unless Garrus is gay, and humans are an exception.... <3

But the female turian does have a fringe...  It's just different.  It also curves upwards at the tips in a similar way to how an asari's "head tentacles" do (possibly what the bachelor party turian was talking about - either that, or bachelor turian was saying asari look like male turians).

I wouldn't really call that fringe. She's fairly bald and what little comes off from her face wraps around her head, hugging it.

A "fringe" is just the outer most edge of something... 

I know what fringe is, and this still doesn't do it for me. Not just me, there have been several threads about this in the past. They're more like "Protrusions," than "Fringe," if you want to get nitpicky about it.

I think Bioware was simply at a loss for anything creative to do when "Desgining," their females.

[TexasToast712]

I'm positive we will see at least one female Salarian in ME3.

[Eradyn]

BentOrgy wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

That comic makes no sense: In ME2 Garrus specifically mentions to FemShep that, if she was a Turian, he'd compliment her "Head-fringe," meaning that both males and females have it.

Unless Garrus is gay, and humans are an exception.... <3

But the female turian does have a fringe...  It's just different.  It also curves upwards at the tips in a similar way to how an asari's "head tentacles" do (possibly what the bachelor party turian was talking about - either that, or bachelor turian was saying asari look like male turians).

I wouldn't really call that fringe. She's fairly bald and what little comes off from her face wraps around her head, hugging it.

A "fringe" is just the outer most edge of something... 

I know what fringe is, and this still doesn't do it for me. Not just me, there have been several threads about this in the past. They're more like "Protrusions," than "Fringe," if you want to get nitpicky about it.

I think Bioware was simply at a loss for anything creative to do when "Desgining," their females.

Saddest thing is, they didn't even need to get super creative or anything.  A slightly modified male turian with some "biologically sound" tweaks would have been fine.

As for the OP, I hope BW is saying that the DH female turians are not indicative of what they actually look like, as those are a pretty radical departure from males (and what we could infer from in-game dialogue).  Perhaps BW went back to the drawing board?

Modifié par Eradyn, 27 février 2012 - 04:20 .

[MadCat221]

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

Read some codex entries and you'll find out.

[Lightweight Nate]

3rdMillhouse wrote...

How the heck are Salarian females "rare"? How does a species even survive like this, what with their females being rare?

There are plenty of species with incredibly scewed gender ratios. It just means that they give birth more and have to be protected.

[Liber320]

Personally, I'd want them to look something like this:

http://meken.deviant...Diger-251486271

Modifié par Liber320, 27 février 2012 - 04:25 .

[Gabey5]

The voice.

also the head ridges