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[jaDanger]

Here's a question for those of us not blessed with a gaming companion of the fairer sex:
My lovely lady does not game at all, and i have been trying to sneakily convert her. Are any of you newer entrants to the world of gaming? Any tips on games to ise as gateway drugs? i'm on xbox by the way, also she's about 30 (don't tell her I said so) so maybe bringing her into the fold is no longer a realistic option.

[DragonRacer]

jaDanger wrote...

Here's a question for those of us not blessed with a gaming companion of the fairer sex:
My lovely lady does not game at all, and i have been trying to sneakily convert her. Are any of you newer entrants to the world of gaming? Any tips on games to ise as gateway drugs? i'm on xbox by the way, also she's about 30 (don't tell her I said so) so maybe bringing her into the fold is no longer a realistic option.

Not really sure. I learned gaming from my Dad when I was 5 or 6 years old, and some of my fondest memories of growing up are me and him playing Atari and Super Nintendo games together. So, it's in my blood.

Maybe try for something fun and co-op to play together? Little Big Planet comes to mind, if you're on PS3. Or something with a good story and interactive companions... if she's not into science fiction and, therefore, Mass Effect isn't a good option, maybe try her on Dragon Age: Origins? I remember reading on the DA forums about several women who saw their husbands playing, got curious, then fell in love with the game (and, apparently, Alistair for the majority of the new female gamers. LOL). And that helped them branch out into exploring other games.

EDIT: Wow, I need to try more reading comprehension, since you clearly said you're on XBox. Forget Little Big Planet then, and try for DA:O.

Modifié par DragonRacer, 16 juin 2012 - 06:52 .

[Wheatax]

DragonRacer wrote...

jaDanger wrote...

Here's a question for those of us not blessed with a gaming companion of the fairer sex:
My lovely lady does not game at all, and i have been trying to sneakily convert her. Are any of you newer entrants to the world of gaming? Any tips on games to ise as gateway drugs? i'm on xbox by the way, also she's about 30 (don't tell her I said so) so maybe bringing her into the fold is no longer a realistic option.

Not really sure. I learned gaming from my Dad when I was 5 or 6 years old, and some of my fondest memories of growing up are me and him playing Atari and Super Nintendo games together. So, it's in my blood.

Maybe try for something fun and co-op to play together? Little Big Planet comes to mind, if you're on PS3. Or something with a good story and interactive companions... if she's not into science fiction and, therefore, Mass Effect isn't a good option, maybe try her on Dragon Age: Origins? I remember reading on the DA forums about several women who saw their husbands playing, got curious, then fell in love with the game (and, apparently, Alistair for the majority of the new female gamers. LOL). And that helped them branch out into exploring other games.

EDIT: Wow, I need to try more reading comprehension, since you clearly said you're on XBox. Forget Little Big Planet then, and try for DA:O.

High 5 DragonRacer! Although it was my brother who lured me into gaming when I was little. I still remember I used to watch my bros and sister playing Arkanoid till morning lol

@JaDanger - As suggested, you can try story/interaction based game first if you want to try and get her to get interested in games. DAO is a great start (and yes, Alistair is a great way to lure her into gaming lol) As from experience, I know it can be hard. I've been trying to get my female friends to play games but more often they give up since it was too complicated they said despite enjoying it (hmm maybe I gave them the wrong game lol). Although two of them are slowly getting into it especially with Kinect games and Rockband. My sister and I used to stay up during high schools and take turns playing Harvest Moon so you can try introducing that too (although that is for PSone and PSP). Try games that are simple and fun or those that has interactions with the characters. Never hurts to trial and error        

[chcknwng]

Yeah it's hard for the fairer sex to get into something that is obviously developed for their counterpart. Not to say that girls can't enjoy them. I successfully get people into LBP but even LBP is a little bit too difficult for them. It just seems too hard for them to use the controller. I guess some of them might enjoy Heavy Rain, I know I did, and it isn't action heavy at all. But again you are on xbox.

I guess as mentioned by DragonRacer, most girls aren't into scifi and alternative universe as well. But I know girly girls who like A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones so as long as you can get them past "oh scifi I'd better stay away from these", and the story has a core that is more complex and about human, then you'll get them hooked.

[ShadowWeaver2012]

jaDanger wrote...

Here's a question for those of us not blessed with a gaming companion of the fairer sex:
My lovely lady does not game at all, and i have been trying to sneakily convert her. Are any of you newer entrants to the world of gaming? Any tips on games to ise as gateway drugs? i'm on xbox by the way, also she's about 30 (don't tell her I said so) so maybe bringing her into the fold is no longer a realistic option.

I'm 36 and started playing last year on PS3, but I also playing computer games back in the 80's so I wasn't totally new to gaming.
That being said, I had watched other people playing really pretty looking games (Like El Shaddai, Assassin's Creed, PixelJunk's Flower, Journey, Eden, etc) and that brought me in because it wasn't just like Call of Duty where you're a dude running around shooting stuff in the military. But if you introduce her to different games that aren't JUST shooting stuff, she might give it more of a chance, then she might try Mass Effect 3.

I haven't played ME1 but I started with ME2 and liked the story line. Its interesting. I enjoy watching people play video games though, so that also helped me open up to console gaming. 

Modifié par ShadowWeaver2012, 16 juin 2012 - 07:36 .

[jaDanger]

Thanks guys. Vivi is actually really into scifi, forces me to watch battlestar, dr. Who and the like, but I tried her on Mass Effect, and the slow rpg pace didn't hold her. She also seems to find game violence a turn off. I don't play qith her around, so no real chance of her just absorbing it, just feels rude to focus on something that's not her when work limits our time together. I showed her E3 footage of Unfinished Swan, which she said she would definitely play, but its ps3 exclusive. I need something low pressure but dual shock controlled to teach her the ropes of fps/3rd person control.

[ShadowWeaver2012]

jaDanger wrote...

Thanks guys. Vivi is actually really into scifi, forces me to watch battlestar, dr. Who and the like, but I tried her on Mass Effect, and the slow rpg pace didn't hold her. She also seems to find game violence a turn off. I don't play qith her around, so no real chance of her just absorbing it, just feels rude to focus on something that's not her when work limits our time together. I showed her E3 footage of Unfinished Swan, which she said she would definitely play, but its ps3 exclusive. I need something low pressure but dual shock controlled to teach her the ropes of fps/3rd person control.

Yeah, well, think of it this way: relationships are about compromise, so if she is willing to play SOME games that is better than NO games, right?   And PS3 seemed to have more interesting games for my demographic for some reason, so you may consider getting one if you want to nurture her gaming. BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.  Or you could go the Wii route.

The difference in ME3 is that we aren't shooting each other, just the baddies, and there isn't a whole lot of gore at all. But I've tried games like Call of Duty, Battle 1942, etc and hated it. I don't know why. I was in the military for a short time in real life, so you'd think I wouldn't have a problem.  Part of it for me is the ability to customize my character. I don't want to be forced to play a male hero. Games with female heros are important to me. I like being able to customize stuff to make it 'mine'.

[David Lo Pan83]

Ive ran into about 4-5 girl players. been playing for about 3 months now

[ShadowWeaver2012]

sliverofamoon wrote...

Drotter wrote...

AshirahTSparkle wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I think PC players tend to be more of a-holes then console players. at least tahts what it seems like from your guy's experiences.

actually it seems to be the opposite. I have yet to met douchebags on pc... while hearing a lot from console players who are females...

Kinda agree with Ashirah. Most of the people on PC that's from this board are great to play with. Haven't had a bad exp so far with randoms too. I guess being quiet all the time during gameplay and helping the best I can helps xD

I agree with Ash.... who is a great player and a female! I have less horror stories on my PC experiences than my husband does on xbox. He's always telling me about this or that jerk that he's met, and how some people have treated some of the females who have spoken up on mics. I can't think of one time I've really been sexually harrassed at all..... but then again, I don't have a mic. *shrugs* But I've played with plenty of other women who do, who have only really talked about one or maybe 2 incedents the entire time this game has been out.

I don't know about PC, but on PS3 I haven't had any issues on the mic. Either everyone is silent (boring) or there are one or two people who have mics on, and I've never had anyone say anything bad.

I do have to say that I haven't come across more than 2 other females on mics. I don't think anyone should feel like they can't use mics for fear of being bothered. I just treat everyone equally as if they were my brothers. If someone says something gross, I ridicule them in a joking manner or better yet say something grosser. I don't easily take offense to much. Either guys will respect me and appreciate my scintillating wit (sarcasm alert) or they will hate me and ragequit. Either is ok by me.

[Damanique]

wngmv wrote...

Yeah it's hard for the fairer sex to get into something that is obviously developed for their counterpart. Not to say that girls can't enjoy them. I successfully get people into LBP but even LBP is a little bit too difficult for them. It just seems too hard for them to use the controller. I guess some of them might enjoy Heavy Rain, I know I did, and it isn't action heavy at all. But again you are on xbox.

I guess as mentioned by DragonRacer, most girls aren't into scifi and alternative universe as well. But I know girly girls who like A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones so as long as you can get them past "oh scifi I'd better stay away from these", and the story has a core that is more complex and about human, then you'll get them hooked.

.... What.

How did you miss out on the hordes and hordes women who play videogames and watch science-fiction? I've been gaming since I was old enough to hold a controller and type on a keyboard. I've been watching and reading science-fiction since I knew how to watch TV and read a book. I'm not some mysterious unicorn exception to the rule. Women like that stuff as much as guys do. They play as hard as guys do. They will kick your ass in a game as much as a guy would. Don't make ridiculous generalizations.

"most girls".

Pffft.

[jaDanger]

Thanks for the advice shadow. Unfortunately our budget is pretty tight, and the purchase of a PS3 may not be viewed with the magnanimity with which it was made. I will comtinue to hold out hope that when med school and law school are out of the way for us, I may be able to turn the tide.

[jaDanger]

Also remind me not to cross damanique...

[Melanie24]

Damanique wrote...

wngmv wrote...

Yeah it's hard for the fairer sex to get into something that is obviously developed for their counterpart. Not to say that girls can't enjoy them. I successfully get people into LBP but even LBP is a little bit too difficult for them. It just seems too hard for them to use the controller. I guess some of them might enjoy Heavy Rain, I know I did, and it isn't action heavy at all. But again you are on xbox.

I guess as mentioned by DragonRacer, most girls aren't into scifi and alternative universe as well. But I know girly girls who like A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones so as long as you can get them past "oh scifi I'd better stay away from these", and the story has a core that is more complex and about human, then you'll get them hooked.

.... What.

How did you miss out on the hordes and hordes women who play videogames and watch science-fiction? I've been gaming since I was old enough to hold a controller and type on a keyboard. I've been watching and reading science-fiction since I knew how to watch TV and read a book. I'm not some mysterious unicorn exception to the rule. Women like that stuff as much as guys do. They play as hard as guys do. They will kick your ass in a game as much as a guy would. Don't make ridiculous generalizations.

"most girls".

Pffft.

This. To support 
Damanique point,  I've also been reading/watching/playing sci-fi and fantasy stories since I was a little. I think a lot of girls might not be as vocal (I almost never speak on mic) about it as some others, but they're definitly there. I have been playing me3 multiplayer since launch and if Im not too busy, I play almost everyday. 

Also @  jaDanger, for me its always been very important to have a female character to play and thats why I've always loved rpg, where you have a choice to build your own character. Thane made it very fun to play as well..

Modifié par Melanie24, 16 juin 2012 - 09:07 .

[Wheatax]

ShadowWeaver2012 wrote...
I don't know about PC, but on PS3 I haven't had any issues on the mic. Either everyone is silent (boring) or
there are one or two people who have mics on, and I've never had anyone
say anything bad.

I do have to say that I haven't come across more than 2 other females on mics. I don't think anyone should feel like they can't use mics for fear of being bothered. I just treat everyone
equally as if they were my brothers. If someone says something gross, I
ridicule them in a joking manner or better yet say something grosser.
I don't easily take offense to much. Either guys will respect me and
appreciate my scintillating wit (sarcasm alert) or they will hate me and
ragequit. Either is ok by me.

lol It's more of luck I
guess. I think someone mentioned here before once that they got
harrassed by few guys in a random game. Best way to deal with it is like
you said, just stay relax, treat it as a joke or move on. If they're
not happy with it, there's plenty of other lobbies

Planning to get PS3 sometime around this year. The Last of Us preview on E3 is just tempting me away from my X360!

Melanie24 wrote...

Damanique wrote...

wngmv wrote...

Yeah it's hard for the fairer sex to get into something that is obviously developed for their counterpart. Not to say that girls can't enjoy them. I successfully get people into LBP but even LBP is a little bit too difficult for them. It just seems too hard for them to use the controller. I guess some of them might enjoy Heavy Rain, I know I did, and it isn't action heavy at all. But again you are on xbox.

I guess as mentioned by DragonRacer, most girls aren't into scifi and alternative universe as well. But I know girly girls who like A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones so as long as you can get them past "oh scifi I'd better stay away from these", and the story has a core that is more complex and about human, then you'll get them hooked.

.... What.

How did you miss out on the hordes and hordes women who play videogames and watch science-fiction? I've been gaming since I was old enough to hold a controller and type on a keyboard. I've been watching and reading science-fiction since I knew how to watch TV and read a book. I'm not some mysterious unicorn exception to the rule. Women like that stuff as much as guys do. They play as hard as guys do. They will kick your ass in a game as much as a guy would. Don't make ridiculous generalizations.

"most girls".

Pffft.

This. To support 
Damanique point,  I've also been reading/watching/playing sci-fi and fantasy stories since I was a little. I think a lot of girls might not be as vocal (I almost never speak on mic) about it as some others, but they're definitly there. I have been playing me3 multiplayer since launch and if Im not too busy, I play almost everyday.

At my local place here, majority used to see girls as those who likes to go for shopping, makeup stuff etc etc while the men are more into sports or gaming. God knows, how many times I've been asked this question; "Who actually play this game (a copy of Dark Souls)?" ehhh me? "you? hah that can't be true." right, it's for my bro ha ha ha *pays, run back home and play 24/7 till NG+* Nevermind the odd looks I get when I went to the comic book section (Marvel, Dc etc) of a bookshop instead of the manga or the romance novel section (eventhough I read them both lol). This probably stems from back in the old days where there were few female gamers compared to male gamers possibly due to games being catered to male audience compared to nowadays where games are much more diverse (for example in comic books - back in the old days it's all Superheroes stuffs where it might attract more of the boys attention towards it, nowadays you have plenty of diversity like Fables, The Unwritten, DMZ, 100 bullets, Saga etc etc etc etc).

In the end, it's more of a personal taste. Not all females go shopping crazy or into make up that much and definitely not all guys play video games or watch football. Same goes for scifi or fantasy (yes, I love them too as much as I love kittens) or etc etc. And there's those who enjoy anything as long as it's interesting and fun for them. So personally, games shouldn't just be specified to which gender. It should be specified for people who enjoys gaming for what they are regardless of who you are
     

Modifié par Drotter, 17 juin 2012 - 03:28 .

[Holy-Hamster]

Games that are "shooters" will on average tend to attract less female gamers than say traditional role playing games. However mass effect does a good job of mixing the two and is not as hardcore as halo, COD and such so female gamers are more willing to try it due to factors such as story, less competitive modes, and ease of play.

When online games were first starting out, women were a rare spawn (+100 internet points if you get my reference) but now days it's more and more common which is a great thing to see. It's been seen as a "man's world" for far too long. It's good to see that everyone can enjoy games together.

And in my humble opinion it makes a lot of games so much more fun when there's female gamers. It can get old only playing with guys all the time. Diversity is a good thing.

However, you can't blame a lot of females for choosing to remain anonymous as the "man's world" still has a long way to go in treating them normally.

(p.s. All of the above are generalizations and not aimed at anyone in particular, these are just broad opinions I've made based on my gaming experiences. Cases could vary of course wildly from individual to individual)

[Adhok42]

Melanie24 wrote...

Damanique wrote...

wngmv wrote...

Yeah it's hard for the fairer sex to get into something that is obviously developed for their counterpart. Not to say that girls can't enjoy them. I successfully get people into LBP but even LBP is a little bit too difficult for them. It just seems too hard for them to use the controller. I guess some of them might enjoy Heavy Rain, I know I did, and it isn't action heavy at all. But again you are on xbox.

I guess as mentioned by DragonRacer, most girls aren't into scifi and alternative universe as well. But I know girly girls who like A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones so as long as you can get them past "oh scifi I'd better stay away from these", and the story has a core that is more complex and about human, then you'll get them hooked.

.... What.

How did you miss out on the hordes and hordes women who play videogames and watch science-fiction? I've been gaming since I was old enough to hold a controller and type on a keyboard. I've been watching and reading science-fiction since I knew how to watch TV and read a book. I'm not some mysterious unicorn exception to the rule. Women like that stuff as much as guys do. They play as hard as guys do. They will kick your ass in a game as much as a guy would. Don't make ridiculous generalizations.

"most girls".

Pffft.

This. To support 
Damanique point,  I've also been reading/watching/playing sci-fi and fantasy stories since I was a little. I think a lot of girls might not be as vocal (I almost never speak on mic) about it as some others, but they're definitly there. I have been playing me3 multiplayer since launch and if Im not too busy, I play almost everyday. 

Also @  jaDanger, for me its always been very important to have a female character to play and thats why I've always loved rpg, where you have a choice to build your own character. Thane made it very fun to play as well..

It's more of a panic situation then "they dislike said genre" from my prespective. My GF adores all genre and enjoying playing games. She can handle herself in combat situations provided the enemies aren't too numerous and/or too difficult. Otherwise she needs some sort of tactical pause that lets her stop for a minute and plot out her attacks. If too many come at her too fast and she's got no way to "stop time" due to it being more real time like our MP then she gets intimidated and tends to make me deal with it.

For the females who've been gaming since "the beginning of time" *ducks to avoid all manner of rocks being chucked at due to misunderstanding*, they've gotten used to the pressure of Real Time Combat which takes some time to ease into. It can be frightening at first for anybody, male or female, to dip into the relm of fast paced quick-thought gameplay without some kind of "primer" to help reduce the fear of suddenly being dropped into a world with no pause button.

For me, Super Smash Bros was my primer. I didn't have to face embarssment from anybody except those in the room who were my good friends so I wouldn't have to face the indignaty of being called "N00b" because of "how bad I sucked" which helped to build my confidence so that when I first stepped into the relm of online gaming as it is now, I wasn't so overwhelmed I panicked causing me to embarss myself and look ridiculous.

I would suggest that those looking to entice a newcommer they want to play with who has no experiance in said game to find something similar to Super Smash Bros where the game is multiplayer but doesn't extend beyond the walls of your home to allow them to experiance fast paced gameplay without the looming threat of ridicule from the internet. Nobody wants to be the focus of that "hey guys, I just played with the stupidest player the other day" topic on the forums. When they feel comfortable with the pressure and don't feel so concerned about looking stupid, then they might be ready to graduate to a bigger world.

[Fennekin]

Shameless bump.

[gynoid]

Adhok42 wrote...
I would suggest that those looking to entice a newcommer they want to play with who has no experiance in said game to find something similar to Super Smash Bros where the game is multiplayer but doesn't extend beyond the walls of your home to allow them to experiance fast paced gameplay without the looming threat of ridicule from the internet. Nobody wants to be the focus of that "hey guys, I just played with the stupidest player the other day" topic on the forums. When they feel comfortable with the pressure and don't feel so concerned about looking stupid, then they might be ready to graduate to a bigger world.

Yes, this is spot on.

If you want a friend (male or female) to get into gaming, you need to start them off with something they can manage. People can be very hard on themselves when they don't get something immediately, even though there's a learning curve for everyone. A fun co-op game where dying isn't a big deal is the best option.

I've been a female gamer all my life, incidentally, and there was a bit of a learning curve with the ME3MP for me. Years ago I played a lot of UT, but since then most of my games have had a pause button. It took several Bronze games for me to feel comfortable (sorry to anyone I played with at the time ) but I find it incredibly fun now. It's just a matter of adjusting the way you play and knowing what to expect, and again, that goes for male and female gamers.

Mostly I've had good experiences of being a woman and a gamer, but the worst abuse I had/saw was in multiplayer with text chat, which is partly why I stopped playing it back in the day. I know a lot of people would like text chat for ME3, but I'm quite happy it's not there. I think people are less likely to be rude when they have to actually say the words rather than type them without consequence (okay, there are obviously exceptions to this rule... ). The ME crowd seems quite decent, though, so I don't know.

[gynoid]

playfarcry wrote...

Similar point i had made earlier , any female who reached till UT or CS .. will easily be attracted to modern day MP games including ME3...i guess female presence solely depend on how many female gamers existed 5 yrs or more back ..coz sure as hell ..no female is gonna get into gaming just for ME3 ...

PS: i have a lot of my friends who are interested in shopping and looking pretty all the time ..not saying i dont like that ... but they are now and always have been into gossips ..but i guess the kind of gossips i have endured all these years .. i think any MP chat room is still far better as long as you keep anonymous .. even if you dont ..switch lobbies if required .. in real life you can't really switch friends you dont want. if you ask me i would have liked a text chat.

PPS: you cant really expect people onlin to be better ..it all depends on that person ..you will frind jerks on street and you will find jerks here ...coz all are "just people" .. not like online world is full of "good people" and "bad people" on the streets... my personal experience has been quite good .. although i kinda have no choice other than to remain anonymous 

I know plenty of ladies who've jumped into modern MP games who hadn't even heard of UT and its ilk. Sure, a brand new gamer might not want to start off with MP, but that goes for anyone, not just female gamers. Suggesting that female gamers will only play ME3 MP if they've been playing other MP shooters is just false.

I don't think you can have any idea of the level of abuse I'm talking about if you're going to compare it to gossip, and I don't particularly like the suggestion that women should have to switch lobbies or not broadcast their gender if they want to be comfortable.

PPS: I know exactly what to expect from people online; my point was that as someone who had a bad experience in the past, it was quite nice to start out in ME3 MP and know I wasn't going to have the same problem. I don't have a problem with text chat.

[Irkalla]

Drotter wrote...

At my local place here, majority used to see girls as those who likes to go for shopping, makeup stuff etc etc while the men are more into sports or gaming. God knows, how many times I've been asked this question; "Who actually play this game (a copy of Dark Souls)?" ehhh me? "you? hah that can't be true." right, it's for my bro ha ha ha *pays, run back home and play 24/7 till NG+* Nevermind the odd looks I get when I went to the comic book section (Marvel, Dc etc) of a bookshop instead of the manga or the romance novel section (eventhough I read them both lol). This probably stems from back in the old days where there were few female gamers compared to male gamers possibly due to games being catered to male audience compared to nowadays where games are much more diverse (for example in comic books - back in the old days it's all Superheroes stuffs where it might attract more of the boys attention towards it, nowadays you have plenty of diversity like Fables, The Unwritten, DMZ, 100 bullets, Saga etc etc etc etc).

In the end, it's more of a personal taste. Not all females go shopping crazy or into make up that much and definitely not all guys play video games or watch football. Same goes for scifi or fantasy (yes, I love them too as much as I love kittens) or etc etc. And there's those who enjoy anything as long as it's interesting and fun for them. So personally, games shouldn't just be specified to which gender. It should be specified for people who enjoys gaming for what they are regardless of who you are
     

I'd also like to add that we are also 3 dimensional, and that some of us like clothes, make-up and shopping just as much as gaming, or other activities men generally partake in. It's not like you have to fit into an established mold, so don't be surprised if you meet people with a variety of interests.

Modifié par Irkalla, 18 juin 2012 - 11:41 .