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[NUM13ER]

Ashley is probably in the CG trailer because she's got broader sex appeal and/or because her long hair allows for some dramatic wind. Its interesting that BioWare makes a game that a player can create their own hero, story and consequences yet some still wonder about what's "canon" and what's not. I thought it was fairly obvious the only canon is whatever your save file(s) says it is.

[DarxydeBluus]

There is no canon until it is more convenient for them to make something canon, e.g. Revan.

[Taleroth]

Default assumption seems to be opposite gender. At least for ME3. I don't know the default assumption for ME2.

[Darkov]

jreezy wrote...

Casey Hudson himself has explained that beyond the plot points that must happen, there is no canon. Take that for what you will.

He's just appeasing you, there will be a set path that is the writer's preferred options and therefore influences future writing and design decisions. This preferred list of options is as good as canon, even if they don't call it that.

[Henriks]

There is no canon, as Casey Hudson already said it. The player build his/her own trilogy, but Ashley was on Mass Effect 1 cover, Ashley was in the walking dead trailler, Ashley is more popular than Kaidan.

[hawat333]

There's no canon for ME, only defaults.
If it were, it probably would be the case.

[p.W]

jreezy wrote...

Darkov wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Casey Hudson himself has explained that beyond the plot points that must happen, there is no canon. Take that for what you will.

He's just appeasing you, there will be a set path that is the writer's preferred options and therefore influences future writing and design decisions. This preferred list of options is as good as canon, even if they don't call it that.

My stance on the matter isn't just based off of what he said however. He can say the complete opposite at this time and I still wouldn't think there is a defined canon. As far as these three games goes there isn't any because the games were designed that way.

Let me ask you again: what if the question isn't "what is the canon for ME1-3?" but "what is the canon for the ME universe?"

[BatmanPWNS]

If I say yes, will you go on a mad run?

[Justicar]

Canon:
Save Ashley and Wrex
Liara as LI
Save Rachni and Council
Feros lol like it matters

Coulcilor decision doesn't matter because Anderson will resign anyway
Become Spectre
recruit everyone obvs lol
LotSB
Arrival

have i forgotten anything

EDIT: and yes canon shep f***s hardcore renegades up the ass lol

Modifié par Justicar, 27 février 2012 - 06:46 .

[Eclipse_9990]

Astrogenesis wrote...

Because in 99% of all the advertising and marketing for the Mass Effect series features Sheploo.

And chances are, if your playing a male Sherpard, then your probably gonna save Ashley.

Nope. I chose Kaiden, because I was already on my way to help him out, and it didn't make sense for me to turn around midway. Plus I like him more. 

Henriks wrote...

There is no canon, as Casey Hudson already said it. The player build his/her own trilogy, but Ashley was on Mass Effect 1 cover, Ashley was in the walking dead trailler, Ashley is more popular than Kaidan.

 

Never really understood why. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 27 février 2012 - 06:47 .

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

ncknck wrote...

well, females have higher priority, so saving Kaidan.. would rather put strange looks on Shep.

edit: On Titanic 74% of all females were saved. But only 20% of all men.

What kind of idiotic comment is this? This isn't 1912, women are considered equal. No more, no less. I'd save Kaidan because he is a ranking officer.

[hawkens982]

Ashely was in the marketing for the first game, I'm not too surprised she is one of the main marketing characters again in ME3.

[Harshfact]

Casey Hudson said they don't impose canon on choices happening in the games so you get to choose, period.

[Random citizen]

p.W wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

Default is not canon, neither is marketing.
Its very important that there is no canon beyond the story they all share, because that would take away the players power and option to create ones own Shepard that is as valid and feels as real as everyone elses.

And seeing a male Shepard walking around with a living Ashley doesn't sabotage the validity of my female Shepard with Kaidan cohort? In what way is marketing different from canon? They're both doing the same thing -- telling me there's a world out there where things turned out very different from mine, and that world is more endorsed by BioWare than mine is, by whatever infinitessimal degree.

The difference is quite clear.  A promotion like that is just a reflection of what the saga can be, not what it is. That it pretty much becomes when it is told from begining to the end without alternatives being presented. And there is an official femshep trailer, no? Yes there is.

[AlanC9]

Darkov wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Casey Hudson himself has explained that beyond the plot points that must happen, there is no canon. Take that for what you will.

He's just appeasing you, there will be a set path that is the writer's preferred options and therefore influences future writing and design decisions. This preferred list of options is as good as canon, even if they don't call it that.

True, but not all decisions need to have such a canon. Unless the VS needs to appear in a future game in the ME universe, Bio doesn't have to care who the VS actually is.

[DimmockDude]

depends on the gender of your shepard the canon VS is the opposite gender as shepard so as to allow as many LI's as possible...simple

[didymos1120]

DarxydeBluus wrote...

There is no canon until it is more convenient for them to make something canon, e.g. Revan.

Try to pick an example that actually has something to do with Bioware imposing stuff. Lucasfilm is the one who decided canon Revan was male, lightside, etc.

[AlanC9]

didymos1120 wrote...

Try to pick an example that actually has something to do with Bioware imposing stuff. Lucasfilm is the one who decided canon Revan was male, lightside, etc.

I really wish they had imposed canon before KotOR 2 was designed.

[Slothful Koala]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Default VS is always opposite gender. Sheploo is male.

Ad marketing will rarely use a bloke (especially an equally muscular, marine, whitish looking guy) when they can use a hot chick instead.

You may be confused. Ashley's ugly.

[Random citizen]

AlanC9 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Try to pick an example that actually has something to do with Bioware imposing stuff. Lucasfilm is the one who decided canon Revan was male, lightside, etc.

I really wish they had imposed canon before KotOR 2 was designed.

If there is a canon, it should always been defined from the start(in KOTORs case KOTOR(1)). Few appriciate the Revan fiasco in SWTOR(even though it can still be possibly be redeemed in part ), even though it was pretty clear (from the revelation onboard the Leviathan) that the story was strongest as a classical redemtion story.

Modifié par Random citizen, 27 février 2012 - 07:31 .

[Stokie Stallion]

shepard1038 wrote...

Because most of the people play maleshep and the Canon choice for maleshep is Ashley.

This, mass effect one liara scared me, after getting to know her over the games i like her but ashley threw and threw.



i recommend ashley fans watch this, its her letter she sends after horizon been read by her voice actor, MANLY TEARS WILL BE SHED

[eskr]

Awesomness wrote...

There is no canon but your average shooter fan would rather be looking at Ash.

No, they just feel comfortable saying they' ratehr be looking at Ash.
Secretly, they long for Kaiden.

[robtheguru]

The movie will reveal all the canon stuff.

[Random citizen]

robtheguru wrote...

The movie will reveal all the canon stuff.

In a way, yes.
And that is way it is a bad idea to say the least.
If the movie is bad, things gets even worse.