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[Arppis]

FinalFantasy84 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...


-The graveyards of men are filled with the courageous. Renegade choises are usually the very uncomfortable but also more tactically sound ones.

The paragon would not compromise on his/her morals or ethics even if it spelled the doom of the universe.

The renegade would do whatever it takes to avoid a galaxy wide holocaust. If we win, then they could put him on trial. If we loose, it wont matter anyway.

Paragon would, stop kidding yourself. Grave yards are usualy full of people because renegades put them there, Paragon is out to make sure that those people don't end up in graveyards. They put themselves in the line instead of others.

No, you don't get it and that's why I'm still laughing.

I do get it, that's why I'm still rolling my eyes at you.

[Arppis]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Arppis wrote...
I did, but that just makes you more idiotic. I'm not talking about running in gunfire here. I'm talking about looking after your people.

Like with ME2, where you have to rescue Tali. Kal'Regar voulenteers to go in with guns blazing. I prevent him from doing that instead issued him to give us coverfire.

And thats a great choice but the encounter is easy either way so it's more of a non choice.

A better example would be from FFXII-2.

1. Use the control and then fight atlas and he's at around 10% health
2. Don't use the control room and you better be bloody good at the game or you are boned.

In ME2 whether you kept him alive or not, there was no appreciable difference in difficulty (which is why I called it a non choice).

It's true.

[WizenSlinky0]

That was a little morbid.

Of course, I never played bringing down the sky.

[FinalFantasy84]

Arppis wrote...

*pats*

Alright then.....

[Peranor]

Siegdrifa wrote...

It is really amazing how some people want's you to get punished only because they don't agree with the choice you made in a solo game that give you multiple choice.
Humanity is retarded.

[AkiKishi]

JRPGs are hellish for this sort of stuff because the way they flag is not so obvious and almost impossible to undo further down the line.

In FM3 for example, choosing whether to visit the army base. At the time you make it a fairly incocous looking choice, turns out to determine which campaign you get.

I've lost track of the number of times where something that seems a non issue turns out to result in a companions death down the line because of related events.

[FinalFantasy84]

Arppis wrote...

FinalFantasy84 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...


-The graveyards of men are filled with the courageous. Renegade choises are usually the very uncomfortable but also more tactically sound ones.

The paragon would not compromise on his/her morals or ethics even if it spelled the doom of the universe.

The renegade would do whatever it takes to avoid a galaxy wide holocaust. If we win, then they could put him on trial. If we loose, it wont matter anyway.

Paragon would, stop kidding yourself. Grave yards are usualy full of people because renegades put them there, Paragon is out to make sure that those people don't end up in graveyards. They put themselves in the line instead of others.

No, you don't get it and that's why I'm still laughing.

I do get it, that's why I'm still rolling my eyes at you.

That's why you take a clear stance while agreeing and disagreeing in the same response???  Man....how's that giant hole looking from down there?  From up here it looks really deep.

Modifié par FinalFantasy84, 27 février 2012 - 02:20 .

[Arppis]

BobSmith101 wrote...

JRPGs are hellish for this sort of stuff because the way they flag is not so obvious and almost impossible to undo further down the line.

In FM3 for example, choosing whether to visit the army base. At the time you make it a fairly incocous looking choice, turns out to determine which campaign you get.

I've lost track of the number of times where something that seems a non issue turns out to result in a companions death down the line because of related events.

And I think that's good tbh. They should rise the difficulty when making a certain choice.

[ODST 3]

 I can't wait to see renegade Shepard's world crumble as he looks to the other races for help only to realize he's alienated them all by being a ****** or killed them all. 

[LGTX]

Ouch. I'm a weepy, soft-hearted paragon and that hurt like hell. =)

[Arppis]

FinalFantasy84 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

FinalFantasy84 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...


-The graveyards of men are filled with the courageous. Renegade choises are usually the very uncomfortable but also more tactically sound ones.

The paragon would not compromise on his/her morals or ethics even if it spelled the doom of the universe.

The renegade would do whatever it takes to avoid a galaxy wide holocaust. If we win, then they could put him on trial. If we loose, it wont matter anyway.

Paragon would, stop kidding yourself. Grave yards are usualy full of people because renegades put them there, Paragon is out to make sure that those people don't end up in graveyards. They put themselves in the line instead of others.

No, you don't get it and that's why I'm still laughing.

I do get it, that's why I'm still rolling my eyes at you.

That's why you take a clear stance while agreeing and disagreeing in the same response???  Man....how's that giant hole looking from down there?

That's why I don't let people to run in middle of field mindlessly like Kal'Regar was about to do and instead use better tactic, without losing him in the process.

It's basicaly what I ment, but I propably worded it wrong for you to understand what I mean.

[FERMi27]

A Paragon decision prevented the Nuclear War.

[AkiKishi]

ODST 3 wrote...

 I can't wait to see renegade Shepard's world crumble as he looks to the other races for help only to realize he's alienated them all by being a ****** or killed them all. 

I expect renegades will get a more technology based advantage. Bigger fleet (although since it only took the Reapers seconds to get to Earth not sure what it would be). The base from ME2 and so on.

I do hope Shepard gets a glorious death in the end though.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 27 février 2012 - 02:25 .

[Farbautisonn]

FERMi27 wrote...

A Paragon decision prevented the Nuclear War.

-Pray... do elaborate?

[Nordicus]

FERMi27 wrote...

A Paragon decision prevented the Nuclear War.

M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction) is a Paragon concept now?

Modifié par Nordicus, 27 février 2012 - 02:29 .

[Gruzmog]

Paragons take big risks aswell, like with the geth rewriting, the rachni queen and the collector base. I don't think all if these should be bad. But all of these are based on limited information and might be bad for you in the long wrong. Would be kinda lame if none of these had any negative consequences. Basicly that would be saying take all the risks you want! As long as you are on the ethic good side you can do no wrong.

Would be a bit of a let down even though I did choose paragon options for most of them. Cept for the geth  Kaboom

Modifié par Gruzmog, 27 février 2012 - 02:45 .

[Arppis]

Gruzmog wrote...

Paragons take big risks aswell, like with the geth rewriting, the rachni queen and the collector base. I don't think all if these should be bad. But all of these are based on limited information and might be bad for you in the long wrong. Would be kinda lame if none of these had any negative consequences. Basicly that would be saying take all the risks you want! As long as you are on the ethic good side you can do no wrong.

Would be a bit of a let down even though I did choose paragon options for most of them. Cept for the geth  Kaboom

Big explosions are funsies!

[Civ.naksu]

FERMi27 is probably referring to Stanislav Petrov: http://en.wikipedia....tanislav_Petrov

Modifié par Civ.naksu, 27 février 2012 - 02:49 .

[AdmiralCheez]

*farts*

[Arppis]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

*farts*

While wearing femShep underwear for max effect?

[incinerator950]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

*farts*

/ignites

[mackan__s]

As a fully Paragon i hope Ashley/Kaidan/Miranda/Wrex/Jack etc, backstabbing you.

Modifié par mackan__s, 27 février 2012 - 02:51 .

[Bad King]

phimseto wrote...

I hope there's a scene in ME3 where you are on a nice date with your LI only to watch him/her die horribly in front of you, killed by Balak, who you let walk away in "Bring Down the Sky".

Have a nice day! :-)

(More than anything, that is what I want out of ME3 - for at least a few paragon choices from the first two games to just blow up in players' faces. And I say that as a paragon player!)

This is based on the flawed logic than BioWare will actually make a paragon decision backfire.

[incinerator950]

Bad King wrote...

phimseto wrote...

I hope there's a scene in ME3 where you are on a nice date with your LI only to watch him/her die horribly in front of you, killed by Balak, who you let walk away in "Bring Down the Sky".

Have a nice day! :-)

(More than anything, that is what I want out of ME3 - for at least a few paragon choices from the first two games to just blow up in players' faces. And I say that as a paragon player!)

This is based on the flawed logic than BioWare will actually make a paragon decision backfire.

Only one of them looks capable of backfiring, maybe two if you don't play correctly. 

[Stalker]

Well, they confirmed that Paragon choices won't be completely the right choices after all.
Actually, even me as a Paragon, I would wish that something backfires.