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[Random citizen]

tobynator89 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

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http://25.media.tumb...zcukuo1_500.png

Vasquez for Shepard!

actor, not a soldier

Clearify

while actors usually focus their training regimen to attain a certain shape, soldier training is actually often detrimental to the muscles.

So soldier training does not focus on building visable muscles? ok. No surprises there.
Femshep= sci-fi marine character. (not a real soldier).
Vasquez = Sci-fi marine character (not a real soldier)

[Arppis]

Prom001 wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Oh and by the way, i find it ironic that there is a release of a triggering femshep body on National Eating Disorder Awareness Week.

i didnt know that.

Yep she's pretty skinny.

[tobynator89]

Arppis wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

8 pages of a thread complaining about FemShep being too skinny to be a "soldier".

Not a single picture of Femshep linked or displayed to prove a point or serve as reference.

BSN, you win again.

i.minus.com/ibydk6KJjJD5CU.jpg
Here you go, underwear pic of her.

seen skinnyer infantrywomen.

Me too, they sucked. Was in army.

Guessing They weren't grunts though. Girl in my squad (we were mech inf) was tough as hell.

should see her somewhere in this vid.

[Capeo]

Heather Cline wrote...

capeo saw that image, looks more like a butt zipper than a window.

http://img821.images...ffect3demo2.jpg 

Nope, definetely a butt window.

[Sashimi_taco]

Prom001 wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Oh and by the way, i find it ironic that there is a release of a triggering femshep body on National Eating Disorder Awareness Week.

i didnt know that.

http://www.nationale...reness-week.php

https://twitter.com/...h/#NEDAwareness

[Ziggeh]

BobSmith101 wrote...



It's very cleverly edited, much more so that the ME2 scenes. It may even be CG in places rather than using the engine. 

Bingo, same goes for DA:O.

We're not comparing like for like.

[tobynator89]

Random citizen wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...



http://25.media.tumb...zcukuo1_500.png

Vasquez for Shepard!

actor, not a soldier

Clearify

while actors usually focus their training regimen to attain a certain shape, soldier training is actually often detrimental to the muscles.

So soldier training does not focus on building visable muscles? ok. No surprises there.
Femshep= sci-fi marine character. (not a real soldier).
Vasquez = Sci-fi marine character (not a real soldier)

How is that a valid comparison? One is a cast actor the other is a virtual model that they can shape in any way they wish`.

[Rockpopple]

The way I see it, Shepard does an inordinate amount of cardio, even for a grunt. Plus who knows how Biotics or Tech abilities affect the human body, or effect women aside from men that use them. Not to mention that the girl in the op, Gina, was showing a little ribcage off myself, lest my eyes and biology decieve me.

In other words, it's a game, who cares? If it offends you so, don't play it. Put your money where your mouth is. Power of protest and all that.

Modifié par Rockpopple, 27 février 2012 - 06:51 .

[AkiKishi]

Heather Cline wrote...

Bob maybe then again maybe not. Either way it still reeks of laziness instead of actually putting the time and effort into actually making ME2 better with romance scenes.

If you look at this, now I only noticed because youtube actually lagged at the moment of the hug. Their arms are not really around each other at all, more like several inches away. The DA:O scene is edited in such a way as to not draw attention to these elements of potential clipping.



(girl/girl "adult" warning)

[Legbiter]

No uggos or fatties in my Mass Effect. I see enough hideous people every day.

[Heather Cline]

Ziggeh I see your point. However you missed mine. My original point is that the clipping issues and all the other issues with ME2 love scenes were because they threw FemShep onto Sheploo's rigging/skeletal structure.

I get that you have an example of complexity but it is still lazy to put FemShep onto a male rigging/skeletal structure no matter the complexity. FemShep is a woman, NOT a man. Having her walk, move, and make hand gestures like a man is not female, it is not unique. That is the point I am trying to get across and why it reeks of laziness.

[Random citizen]

tobynator89 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Random citizen wrote...



http://25.media.tumb...zcukuo1_500.png

Vasquez for Shepard!

actor, not a soldier

Clearify

while actors usually focus their training regimen to attain a certain shape, soldier training is actually often detrimental to the muscles.

So soldier training does not focus on building visable muscles? ok. No surprises there.
Femshep= sci-fi marine character. (not a real soldier).
Vasquez = Sci-fi marine character (not a real soldier)

How is that a valid comparison? One is a cast actor the other is a virtual model that they can shape in any way they wish`.

Its about using iconic imagery.

[KBomb]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I am not blaming anyone else for my disorder, I am responsibel for it. However, it is ableist to tell people that because they have a mental health issue with something they should just avoid it. I never said they had to change it or anything, it would be great if they did but it is too late. But i DO NOT think that i should just ingore it and be quiet about it. This is a major issue in society and if everyone was just quiet about these issues, things would never change. I have a voice, and I am going to use it. 

That is the same as telling a minority that they should jsut avoid racism video games or a homosexual they should avoid homophobic video games. It is ableism. 

 
No one is discriminating against you. You also have every right to voice your opinion on the matter. Who said you didn't? You have every right to send petitions, emails or any other device you wish to use to show your displeasure. However, what you cannot do is force media to change or omit women who are too thin, have too skinny of arms, legs and torso. To do so is telling women who are those things that they have the wrong body type. There has to be an equal medium where all body types are appreciated and celebrated. Granted, I find her too skinny for my taste, but there are women out there who have arms that are ultra skinny. I am more concerned as to why her thighs are out of proportion to the rest of her body, but oh well. When I said you should ignore it, I didn't mean you don't have the right to voice your opinion. I meant that if it is a health issue for you, for your own safety, you should avoid it. Stop being hyper-sensitive.

That is the same as telling a minority that they should jsut avoid racism video games or a homosexual they should avoid homophobic video games. It is ableism.

I'm sorry. I don't agree with this at all. Having skinny people in video games isn't discriminatory against people with eating disorders. Again, if this game is triggering and detrimental to your health, then for those reasons you should avoid it.

[Heather Cline]

Bob yeah I see that, but there are points in that clip where the hand is on leliana's thigh and hands on shoulders where clipping could happen but didn't. They did a good job with keeping the arms from one avatar apart from those of leliana. not to say it's a bad thing but it worked very well.

[Sashimi_taco]

KBomb wrote...



Stop being hyper-sensitive.


 

[Arppis]

tobynator89 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

tobynator89 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

8 pages of a thread complaining about FemShep being too skinny to be a "soldier".

Not a single picture of Femshep linked or displayed to prove a point or serve as reference.

BSN, you win again.

i.minus.com/ibydk6KJjJD5CU.jpg
Here you go, underwear pic of her.

seen skinnyer infantrywomen.

Me too, they sucked. Was in army.

Guessing They weren't grunts though. Girl in my squad (we were mech inf) was tough as hell.

should see her somewhere in this vid.

Shame they were all in winter gear, couldn't really see much of their arm width. The snow suit ofcourse adds a bit to there.

And they were infantry in here.

Basicaly yeah, women can do what us guys do too, but there isn't just enough width in the FemShep's arms, still.

Nice video still.

Modifié par Arppis, 27 février 2012 - 06:56 .

[AkiKishi]

Heather Cline wrote...

Bob maybe then again maybe not. Either way it still reeks of laziness instead of actually putting the time and effort into actually making ME2 better with romance scenes.

Not sure I'd agree with that. In ME2 you have more variation in the scenes, there is always going to be a trade off. For example, at one point Jacks fingers just disapear into Shepards shoulder. If you were able to alter the shoulder width , this would be a major issue and very noticeable.

It's kind of like playing that game where your trying to get as close to each other as you can without actually touching.If you altered the body shape of the players while at the same time keeping the same distance , it would not work.

[Heather Cline]

capeo ah i didn't see it in it's enlarged version. i only saw the tiny version in the threads which is why it looked like a butt zipper not a butt window. my mistake.

[KBomb]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

KBomb wrote...



Stop being hyper-sensitive.


 

 
Sorry, but that female animation has arms that are plainly too skinny for her to shake that man. I am shocked and angered! I demand you re-draw that animation and give her sturdier arms. DO IT!

[Stokie Stallion]

Demonique wrote...

Her arms are way too skinny and she has no muscle definition

Something like this would have been much more appropriate

In case it doesn't show, it's a gif of cage-fighter Gina Carano getting ready for a pre-fight weigh-in

damn, she can pin me to the floor n make me squal im your **** anyday.

Anyway i play maleshep, jsut perving on ashley is enough for me

[Ziggeh]

Rockpopple wrote...
If it offends you so, don't play it.

Mmmmm, I'm not sure I agree with that.

I think this conversation right here is massively out of perspective because she's an overtly violent badass who'll happily chin an alien twice her size, it's not like she's mincing about in a miniskirt needing a good hard rescuing every other act. We're talking about what she looks like when you strip off the full body armour for reasons I'm not going to spend much time considering.

(As an aside I find it bizarre that objectification is fine if we post a more realistic image than one in a computer game and all sit around going "mmmm, yeah baby, she could be my positive role model any day")

But if something you find offensive finds it's way into popular media I think it's healthy to have it discussed, even if it, like this is a bit forced, it highlights potential issues so they might be avoided in the future. Otherwise you risk things becoming accepted through apathy.

[k177sh0t]

First time i've seen Dat gif

Thats a really cute way of undressing

[Sashimi_taco]

KBomb wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

KBomb wrote...



Stop being hyper-sensitive.


 

 
Sorry, but that female animation has arms that are plainly too skinny for her to shake that man. I am shocked and angered! I demand you re-draw that animation and give her sturdier arms. DO IT!

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[KoorahUK]

I approve of the OP. Oh yes.

[_symphony]

a butt window? didn't the same happen with Ash? BioWare y u no learn?