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I'm sick of being told this game is better with Kinect!


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commanderjst wrote...

Ok. Leme explain this.

Kinect gives you a real feeling of being in the war itself. Without the Kinect immersion, we will be playing just like ME1 and 2. I am a proud owner of Kinect.

More explanation.
If you are sheppard in real life. You cant stay muted and expect a controller to pick what you want to say. I always want to join the army but cannot since im deaf. But Kinect gives me the chance to do like a squad leader. giving orders.

As for PS3, there are some PS3 players who are jealous that Xbox has better system due to Kinects motion sensor since PS3 has some type of wand which makes you feel EXACTLY like Harry Potter. Ohh a wand, nice im harry potter.

Xbox says: Ohh Kinect. Nice. Now I can do what I want with no limits

Firstly: No limits? Aside from those defined by the games command system. That's a phrase worthy of a publisher plant.

Secondly: I've been using keyboard and console controls since I was six years old. They are second nature. There is no barrier between myself and the medium, which is the fiction used to sell motion capture and touch screen technology. They respond directly to my commands.

What is a barrier, at least within the current generation of tech (though I really see no forward motion here, but it's an industry brimming with clever people), is a limited palette of intuitive motion commands. If I'm waving my arm in a bizarre circular motion to indicate I want to leap over a barrier or remembering I have to do half of a quick time waltz followed by a series of squats and a dismount to reload ammo, or clear my mouth of Doritos for long enough for it to recognise my commands as anything other than a crisp filled mumble, not only is it adding considerable delay upon actions, it's going to get tiring pretty quickly.

I, and I imagine most have learnt to extent my frame of experience to the onscreen character. We've been doing this for over 100 years now. Having to wave my arms back and forth, with no feedback, or shout in my silly high pitched voice, entirely disconnects myself the person on screen. I cease to be a symbiotic entity interacting through instant instinctive commands and become a chump yelling and waving at someone far more awesome than me, telling them what to do. And that's what promotion's at work are for.

Modifié par Ziggeh, 28 février 2012 - 08:21 .


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Eclipse merc wrote...

Ugh, I hate kinect. I'm glad I didn't buy one, Mass Effect 3 IMO would be better without it.


this is the stupidest thing ive seen here. Removing the feature has no gain other than removing it for the pure hatred of something optional. 

i dont see why having the option to shout what you want to happen nstead of pausing the game to make it happen (squad powers) is a bad thing

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Ziggeh's comment is the first one I've read about that actually appeals more.

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Ziggeh wrote...

Firstly: No limits? Aside from those defined by the games command system. That's a phrase worthy of a publisher plant.

Secondly: I've been using keyboard and console controls since I was six years old. They are second nature. Their is no barrier between myself and the medium, which is the fiction used to sell motion capture and touch screen technology. They respond directly to my commands.

What is a barrier, at least within the current generation of tech (though I really see no forward motion here, but it's an industry brimming with clever people), is a limited palette of intuitive motion commands. If I'm waving my arm in a bizarre circular motion to indicate I want to leap over a barrier or remembering I have to do half of a quick time waltz followed by a series of squats and a dismount to reload ammo, or clear my mouth of Doritos for long enough for it to recognise my commands as anything other than a crisp filled mumble, not only is it adding considerable delay upon actions, it's going to get tiring pretty quickly.

I, and I imagine most have learnt to extent my frame of experience to the onscreen character. We've been doing this for over 100 years now. Having to wave my arms back and forth, with no feedback, or shout in my silly high pitched voice, entirely disconnects myself the person on screen. I cease to be a symbiotic entity interacting through instant instinctive commands and become a chump yelling and waving at someone far more awesome than me, telling them what to do. And that's what promotion's at work are for.


This times 1000.

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I have a great idea, how about we all play Mass effect how we want to play it? PS3 + Xbox 360 Wars are so outdated, been going ever since the PS2 and Xbox... Congratulations PS3 you have bluray, doesnt make a difference to Xbox 360 Players, and the differences ain't that big anyways (graphics better and more space on disc... whats that got to do with gameplay). Xbox 360 Players, you guys have the better online community of the two, but PS3 Players dont care either < I can say this because I own a PS3 Xbox 360 and PC. Its about what you prefer. me personally im getting it on PC just because I prefer using keyboard and mouse to controllers but im sure other people prefer it the other way around too(and in my own experience people on the PC are so much more mature). Just play the game how you want to play it, isn't about which console is better. they both run the same game with the same story. who cared about graphics when the Sega Mega Drive was around?

Modifié par SaNgGoLd, 28 février 2012 - 08:13 .


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Kinect was a terrible idea, just like the Xbox Cam. Can we PLEASE stop following trends? Motion Control is the 3D of the Gaming world. Yes it makes some things fun, but not every damn thing needs it.

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*tosses 2 credit chips on the table*

As a PC and PS3 gamer ONLY, I don't give a stuff whatever gimmicks they give the xBox version, it's still not going to make me go out and buy it. Heck, I don't even have an xBox!

And for Mass Effect (and other 3rd person shooters) I prefer PC anyway, because it's easier to "target" enemies with the mouse instead of using a controller to "move" the targeting reticle to the target.

It would have been nice to see this on PC or PS3 as well, because I do approve of the basic concept, because it would be nice to say "Garrus, Overload" or "Ashley, Concussive Shot" instead of pausing with the HUD, clicking on a power and then doing it again a few seconds later.

And all you really need is a microphone hooked up to your gaming device.

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Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

Let me say as a PS3 owner I am offended by the idea that this game is somehow better with some gimmicky piece of junk that nobody needs like the Kinect.
If anything hearing my own voice give commands and then hearing Mark Meer speak as Shepard breaks the immersion since our voices sound nothing alike.  It's much more practical to just press a button plus I know the voice commands for the Xbox don't work 100 percent of the time.  Not going to be very practical when a command fails while playing on insanity with Geth/Collectors/Reapers or whatever shooting fireballs up my butt.

If anything the game is better with BLUE RAY because like with the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 we won't have to change discs thus adding to the immersion and giving us a better overall product.

hmm... tbh, this isn't what I expected from you.  I thought you'd be asking for a Dreamcast version, not a Move version.

Modifié par bobobo878, 28 février 2012 - 08:32 .


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well kinect does give 360 players infinite "key bindings" and the ability to play the game without pausing combat like our PC brethren, also quick save which is F***ing awesome.

Modifié par vanguard_of_destruction, 28 février 2012 - 08:51 .


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Bluray would be improvement for sure.

Move version? Dunno.

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I like trains :wizard: Who else like trains?

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Warden130 wrote...

I like trains :wizard: Who else like trains?


Delta Squad's in your house *****!

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ReconTeam wrote...

Warden130 wrote...

I like trains :wizard: Who else like trains?


Delta Squad's in your house *****!

lol

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If you're a LARPer then it IS better with Kinect.

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Seboist wrote...
If you're a LARPer then it IS better with Kinect.


I look foward to the YouTube videos that will arise from this...

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Seboist wrote...

If you're a LARPer then it IS better with Kinect.

Is South Park the Game better with Kinect?

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Do the romance scenes get the Kinect treatment too?

"Oh yeah, work it Liara!"

"I love it when you moan Ashley!"

"Don't stop!"

"I'm a naughty girl, harder Wrex!"

Can't wait until BioWare releases a game with both motion capture and voice commands. It would be, dare I say, orgasmic.

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some one is jealous they wasted money on piece of sh*t 3 move and don't get any cool features with me3.

you should consider yourself lucky you even get to play the game that was made for the 360.

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Try Light Gun. It is more accurate than kinect!

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Me personally, I'm not interested in Kinect...especially in Mass Effect. However, I've heard it works well so for those who have Kinect then thats great.

"Better with Kinect" is just marketing and its typical Microsoft so I wouldn't get annoyed by it.

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But it is better with kinect.

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Every single time I see the "Better with kinect" crap coming, I hope that for once they'll be honest and it will say "Worse with kinect".
You never know, an honest marketing team. Anonymous that modified the video.

But it never happens:(.

Modifié par Slashout, 28 février 2012 - 11:05 .


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"Its better if people dont bi**h about it"

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 Kinect may be one thing, but I think one thing we can all agree on is that Mass Effect 3 will be  better with cake

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Ringo12 wrote...

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

I think the better question is why in the Hell does this game not have Move support!?!


Because Sony didn't pay EA to force that on Bioware who had to remove animations like holstering weapons because of disc limits on a 360 game. 

No, that’s bull ****.

1 People seem to not know how Blue ray or the PS3 work. All that space you brag about, its redundant information, that’s why Skyrim has so much problems working on the PS3, the Blue ray is big yes, so big in fact that the game needs to be printed on the disk multiple times, because if it wasn’t the tracking laser wouldn’t be able to play the game, this is also why you have to install your games to the hard drive. So the size your brag about is redundant data.

2. Look at L.A. Noir, Lost Odyssey and a hand full of other games. They are on Multiple disks, disk space and limitations on the 360 isn’t a problem, (less now with the 1G of direct to HDD download.) if you want to **** about animations and such look no further than Bioware, its pure lazy at this point, or need I remind people of DA2 and a good deal of ME2 plot ( I mean really is their anyone Jack HASN’T been sexually violated by? Its not compelling when you use sexual assault like a comma, or how about killing Kids because that edgy,  no its not its pathetic and a lazy attempt to show your plot is real and edgy and hard core, **** that and **** this game for trying to manipulate a base sympathetic response to the loss of a child’s life.)

Nether Console is better than the other, and if one was if would be the Xbox who is a year of 2 older than the PS3 and still keeps up graphically, and in some cases out performs it ( SKYRIM ANYONE?) the point I’m trying to make is neither is better than the other because the developers don’t used them to there fullest, they set a middle bar from the PC and develop on that  ( Not saying PC‘s are better everything has its problems) .       

Masseffect started on the Xbox, of you look at ME1 there is no EA logo on it its Microsoft,  so it would only make since that it would use the Kinect, it’s a gimmick sure but people are buying Kinect because of ME3, so its working, and good on them. But hey at least their gimmick didn’t rip off Nintendo, right?