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[Brainslnside]

 Greetings.

Before you read this post, i want you to know that i do not know anything about Mass Effect 3 plot at all, and all ideas mentioned here are just my suggestions and thoughts based on what i've experienced during ME2 gameplay.

I'd like to start with the conflict of Cerberus forces and Shepard during the demo mission. Such confrontation is not new - we've fought Cerberus before in ME1, ruining damn load of their experiments and bases. In ME2, though, they've decided to rebuild Shepard and invested a lot of resources into so-called Lazarus project and Shepard's new ship, Normandy-2. Then, after raiding Collector's base and fulfilling the mission that Cerberus rebuilt us for, it seems like Shepard and Cerberus are equal. Why confront Shepard in ME3, then?

Well, looks like it's not that simple. As you can understand from ME2 situation with Collector's ship, dialogues with EDI, Miranda and Shadow Broker info, Illusive man is a very manipulative creature (i call him 'creature' for a reason, which i'll explain later), and nobody except him knows the amount of operations Cerberus is performing at the moment because of the cell-structure organization. Even Miranda, a high-ranked officer, does not know about all of them - as an example, she did not know about the derelict Reaper that Cerberus was trying to research.

We can also clearly see his non-human nature - the strange shape of his eyes and, mainly, the reaction of the star behind him to his current mood. And here comes my main suggestion: basically, the Illusive man plans to do something with the Reaper invasion, and when he found out that the Collectors were making an attempt to create their own Reaper he decided that they need to be stopped because that would interfere with his plans. In order to do so, he needed a person that already confronted the Reapers - as a proof of one's strength - and, as Miranda said, 'a bloody icon' in one glass, and here comes out Commander Shepard. But how to make him work for Cerberus, an organization with a reputation of terrorists and fanatics? Easy - make Shepard a favor. Oh, he does not need one? Well, tip the Collectors some info about his current position, let them destroy his ship, grab the body and do whatever is needed with him. 

So, to make a conclusion of my ideas: in ME2 we were not actually 'saving the humanity from the Collectors', even if it seemed so from Shepard's point of view - we were wiping out a threat to the domination of one manipulative bastard know as the Illusive man.

Modifié par Brainslnside, 27 février 2012 - 07:17 .

[Flagta]

Before you read this post, i want you to know that i do not know anything
about Mass Effect 3 plot at all, and all ideas mentioned here are just my
suggestions and thoughts based on what i've experienced during ME2 gameplay.

Then just skip my post which will contain some spoilers. I'll try to keep
it vague though.

Well, looks like it's not that simple. As you can understand from ME2 situation
with Collector's ship, dialogues with EDI, Miranda and Shadow Broker info,
Illusive man is a very manipulative creature (i call him 'creature' for a
reason, which i'll explain later), and nobody except him knows the amount of
operations Cerberus is performing at the moment because of the cell-structure
organization. Even Miranda, a high-ranked officer, does not know about all of
them - as an example, she did not know about the derelict Reaper that Cerberus
was trying to research.

Because the derelict Reaper wasn't something the Lazarus cell would've needed
to know about. Remember. TIM makes sure that his cells don't have
connections to each other.

We can also clearly see his non-human nature - the strange shape of his eyes and,
mainly, the reaction of the star behind him to his current mood. And here comes
my main suggestion: basically, the Illusive man plans to do something with the
Reaper invasion, and when he found out that the Collectors were making an
attempt to create their own Reaper he decided that they need to be stopped
because that would interfere with his plans. In order to do so, he needed a
person that already confronted the Reapers - as a proof of one's strength -
and, as Miranda said, 'a bloody icon' in one glass, and here comes out
Commander Shepard. But how to make him work for Cerberus, an organization with
a reputation of terrorists and fanatics? Easy - make Shepard a favor. Oh, he
does not need one? Well, tip the Collectors some info about his current position,
let them destroy his ship, grab the body and do whatever is needed with
him. 

First, TIM is entirely human. The star doesn't need to be an actual sun, maybe
it's just his desktop wallpaper, and anyways it doesn't really mean anything.
ME 1 outro was kinda the same if I recall correctly. TIM didn't tell the
collectors where they could find Shep, everything was Harby's plan.

So, to make a conclusion of my ideas: in ME2 we were not actually 'saving the
humanity from the Collectors', even if it seemed so from Shepard's point of
view - we were wiping out a threat to the domination of one manipulative
bastard know as the Illusive man.

TIM had a great plan how to defeat the Reapers and use them for himself, though
he got indoctrinated in the process. Oh and btw, his real name is Jack Harper if you didn't know.

Modifié par Flagta, 27 février 2012 - 07:34 .