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[ReallyRue]

This is fascinating. And not something that would have occured to me, seeing as I know nothing about biology or plants.

The only reason I could come up with before for a playthrough that killed the colonists was if Shepard cared so little about casualties that she'd just mow them down without considering alternatives, or if Shepard didn't follow Lisbeth to the rest of the Exo-Geni staff and therefore didn't recieve the Thorian gas grenade.

Hmm. This is tempting me to do another playthrough and roleplay this as the reason for killing the colonists. Not that Shepard appears to know a great deal about biology or plants either.

[sorentoft]

Zenor wrote...

sorentoft wrote...

Kaidan arm the bomb!

For me it would be like.
ASHLEY ARM THE BO- wait she's dead....
KAIDAN ARM THE BOMB! 

Exactly, good sir.

[PSBlasius]

Also, the Thorian can clone people! Well, asari... How does that play into your theory, I wonder, because I didn't see many vascular seedless plants on Earth devouring people to clone them? And as your theory (while scarily good) is based on Earth-based flora.

So, I solemnly attack you theory on the base that the Thorian is an extraterrestrial, mind-controlling via spores, people cloning alien!

[Sailears]

ReallyRue wrote...

This is fascinating. And not something that would have occured to me, seeing as I know nothing about biology or plants.
<snip>

That is really well thought out, and likewise wouldn't have occurred to me.

Having said that I would be surprised if the Thorian issue is covered in this way in ME3, or whether it might be glossed over.

[Carnage752]

Interesting... That would certainly be a twist in the story if they did that. Probably not, but who knows ^^

[Carnage752]

Thorians: We have finally got off rhe planet! The galaxy is ours! *Reapers attack* DAMNIT!!

[CrutchCricket]

You do realize that if all thorian spore could grow into a full blown creature the galaxy would be nothing but thorians right?
Or is THAT what the Reapers are really doing?

[didymos1120]

CrutchCricket wrote...

You do realize that if all thorian spore could grow into a full blown creature the galaxy would be nothing but thorians right?

You do realize that just because every spore can doesn't mean it will right?  I mean, I don't know if you noticed, but there's this thing called "competition for limited resources" in nature.  

[CrutchCricket]

Well the OP seems to think every spore will.
Not to mention Cerberus was playing with some spores on that other random world. So destroying the colony does nothing.

[PSBlasius]

Hello Man wrote...

PSBlasius wrote...

Also, the Thorian can clone people! Well, asari... How does that play into your theory, I wonder, because I didn't see many vascular seedless plants on Earth devouring people to clone them? And as your theory (while scarily good) is based on Earth-based flora.

So, I solemnly attack you theory on the base that the Thorian is an extraterrestrial, mind-controlling via spores, people cloning alien!

Xeno-BiologyB)

*sigh* Ah, whatever! I just hoped to avoid weeding the garden tomorrow... <_<

[Nizzemancer]

forget "how long", when "WHY did you write all this?" is a much better question.

[ObserverStatus]

Cazlee wrote...
Scientific evidence or wishful thinking?

Scientific evidence, of course.  Why would I wish that these people were going to
get eaten alive by thorian embryos? That would just be cruel.

CrutchCricket wrote...
You do realize that if all thorian spore could grow into a full blown creature the galaxy would be nothing but thorians right? Or is THAT what the Reapers are really doing?

Keep in mind that the Thorian has only been discovered on a single world that is inhabited by only a handful of colonists, which used to be a prothean megacity.  The Thorian might have been brought there by an unsuspecting prothean 50,000 years ago.  The protheans had highly advanced technology and would have been better equipped to deal with thorian outbreaks than we are, but the protheans responsible for containing this organism still could have made mistakes, thus one managed to escape to Illos.

PSBlasius wrote...
Also, the Thorian can clone people!
Well, asari... How does that play into your theory, I wonder, because I
didn't see many vascular seedless plants on Earth devouring people to
clone them? And as your theory (while scarily good) is based on
Earth-based flora.
So, I solemnly attack you theory on the base
that the Thorian is an extraterrestrial, mind-controlling via spores,
people cloning alien!

I only said that the Thorian was
similar to vascular seedless plants in terms of its means of
reproduction.  The Asari clones and Thorian Creepers may not be the
Thorian's true offspring at all, but rather detatched extensions of the
original organism.

Nizzemancer wrote...
forget "how long", when "WHY did you write all this?" is a much better question.

I want to help you save the galaxy.

Modifié par bobobo878, 27 février 2012 - 09:02 .

[CELL55]

Nice idea, but remember, it sat underneath the protheans for a really long time, and it didn't drive them extinct or conquer the galaxy.

[PSBlasius]

bobobo878 wrote...

The Asari clones and Thorian Creepers may not be the 
Thorian's true offspring at all, but rather detatched extensions of the
original organism.

Geeee- Zu's! I got images! In my mind! Reminded me of the human brain-spore infestation surgery video on youtube...

Naaasty!

[CrutchCricket]

bobobo878 wrote...

Keep in mind that the Thorian has only been discovered on a single world that is inhabited by only a handful of colonists, which used to be a prothean megacity.  The Thorian might have been brought there by an unsuspecting prothean 50,000 years ago.  The protheans had highly advanced technology and would have been better equipped to deal with thorian outbreaks than we are, but the protheans responsible for containing this organism still could have made mistakes, thus one managed to escape to Illos.

And... where is the evidence of other thorians? If each spore had the potential to make a whole new monster, there would be a whole lot more of them, scarce resources be damned. And given the thorian's ability to clone all it would ever need is one host. Then it can send its clones to every planet and plant the seeds. The fact that this never happened argues against your theory. Though I must admit I find the idea of the Reapers being used as a countermeasure against this very intriguing. Although again this probably isn't the case or else we'd have heard about it.

Nah, you want to draw comparisons I think the thorian is closer to a sarlaac, just launching big ass pods in space.

[ObserverStatus]

CELL55 wrote...

Nice idea, but remember, it sat underneath the protheans for a really long time, and it didn't drive them extinct or conquer the galaxy.

It is possible that the Thorian knew the limitations of its resources and did its best not to draw attention from the protheans, but I suspect that it only learned to do so after others of its kind were hunted down and destroyed on other prothean worlds.

[Mecha Tengu]

sorry OP

metagaming Paragon Pansies always win the day.

we don't want the children to feel bad for doing the purported "right thing" do we?

[Julia343]

Cool. There may be another baby Thorian plant. It was an amazing being. Too bad Saren screwed up so we had to destroy it.

[Bungie.Net Sucks]

 I really like this! But being a cynical **** I need to get mad

Problems with this;

#1- The Thorian isn't a plant, It isn't an animal, it is a completely alien form of life that has no true precedent on the Earth

#2- Mass Effect 2 dealt with this; the colonists were in trouble with Baria Frontiers and medical scans, and the colonists were getting sick without much good coming from the medical world. So apparently the Thorian's spore were still active. Interesting, but not proof that anything actually occured involving infant Thorians.

#3- The Thorian would be able to reproduce with animals native to Feros, or those introduced (Varren) much more readily than Humans. And don't say they aren't compatible; the fact that Humans can eat Varren meat means they are biologically similar enough to allow you to retrieve sustenance. So there should be more than one Thorian, you know, if it was smart.

#4- The previous was assuming the Thorian was compatible biologically with Humans/Varren, but there's no evidence beyond the superficial mind-control that the Thorian can use Human bodies to reproduce.

:3 

[Spoiledrotten]

"you can no more kill it then cut the sky"

I like this theory. Doubt Bioware would do it though.

[DiebytheSword]

I thought of this as I was saving them, spores can become new life, but at the same time some hope is better than no hope. I let them live hoping that the problem can be corrected later if it is indeed a problem.

Well thought out though, kudos to OP.

[ObserverStatus]

CrutchCricket wrote...
And... where is the evidence of other thorians?

I would suspect that any botanical or medical records kept by protheans on the creature wre destroyed by the reaper. But no natural organism is truly one of a kind.  It is populations, not individuals would evolve.

CrutchCricket wrote...
If each spore had the potential to make a whole new monster, there would
be a whole lot more of them, scarce resources be damned.

If they were only capable of interstellar travel by hitching rides inside the bodies of protheans, that would put them right where the reapers need them to be in order to stomp them all out.  It could merely be a fluke that only the one on Ferros survived.

CrutchCricket wrote...
And given the thorian's ability to clone all it would ever need is one
host. Then it can send its clones to every planet and plant the seeds.
The fact that this never happened argues against your theory.

The so called "Asari Clones" are not clones in the usual sense of the world.  How many Asari have you met who bleed green?  These creatures probably have more in common with the Thorian creepers than true asari.

[Flashflame58]

Brilliant! Now I have an acceptable excuse for wiping them all out!