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[SealKudos]

 Well...

Um...

Didn't think of it that way.

[ObserverStatus]

Olej z Maku wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
Thorians and Drell didn't have to evolve to look just like humans either, but they did anyway.  Convergent evolution is a common theme in this series.

True, but what does that have to do with my argument that spores don't have to grow into new Thorians?

My point is that any good science can be used to make predictions.  Even if the Thorian is not completely the same as earthly plants, many of the same rules governing their mechanics may still apply.

[Jimbe2693]

Yay let's grow lots of baby thorians.

[ObserverStatus]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
OP is a friggin tool! Killing people is killing people is killing people!
You sicken me. You and all your renegade ilk.

I didn't want to do it, but if I had let them go, I would be killing countless others through my inaction.

[Unschuld]

@OP

Looks like someone got excited after their biology class.

[Raxxman]

So what happens if you save Zhus Hope in ME1, and convince the corp to fork out for medical research/treatment in ME2?

it's entirely possible by that point you'll have a cure to thorian infestation, one which is less drastic than fire (and lots of it).

[C9316]

Dammit Bobo! First Rubber now this!? Why are you doing this to me!!!???

[ArkkAngel007]

Bio major huh?

This is all well and good, assuming the Thorian has the same evolutionary traits of that of Earth flora, which isn't likely for obvious reasons. However, I don't feel that the spores are no longer viable, if they ever were, as a reproductive element.

The spores seem to be parasitic in nature, using the host to their [the Thorian's] end while the host suffers through the effects. All the symptoms that the colonists suffered are similar to many types of neurological fungal infections in both humans and other organisms.

This is even saying if the spores are from the Thorian itself. A type of fungus may have grown a symbiotic relationship with the Thorian over thousands/millions of years. The Thorian may have a neurological link with this fungus and provides some benefit to the fungus, while the fungus provides protection through this neurological link. How that carries over through each individual spore is beyond our scope of understanding. However, a potential flaw is that it seems evident that in both the victims and the creepers, there is chlorophyll production in the bodies.

Finally, the spores may be a vestigial component of what may have once been the Thorian's reproductive system. Due to the thousands to millions of years without the ability to reproduce, the reproductive system may have adapted a previous neurological function (similar to the Asari and Prothean neurological system) in reproduction to be more of a defense system.

However, this is all just theory, as we don't know anything of the Thorian outside of its interaction with the Zhu's Hope colony.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 28 février 2012 - 03:39 .

[Unschuld]

Raxxman wrote...

So what happens if you save Zhus Hope in ME1, and convince the corp to fork out for medical research/treatment in ME2?

it's entirely possible by that point you'll have a cure to thorian infestation, one which is less drastic than fire (and lots of it).

As much as the information bobo gave could be possible, I don't think the ME team put as much of those factors into the plot.

[ObserverStatus]

Unschuld wrote...
@OP
Looks like someone got excited after their biology class.

Of course! I just love learning, don't you?

Raxxman wrote...
So what happens if you save Zhus Hope in ME1, and convince the corp to fork out for medical research/treatment in ME2?
it's entirely possible by that point you'll have a cure to thorian infestation, one which is less drastic than fire (and lots of it).

That is possible, but it's a heavy risk.  I didn't say it was impossible for this to turn out well for paragon players, but the thorian babies are already kicking, so to speak, and they may have a hard time curing all of them before it is too late.

[Unschuld]

bobobo878 wrote...

Of course! I just love learning, don't you?

Yep. I'm working on a bio major (or minor, undecided) myself.

[Mx_CN3]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

BURN THE HERETIC.

KILL THE MUTANT.

PURGE THE UNCLEAN.

Femshep, Ashley, and Liara show up on Feros:
Behold, the immolator!  BURNING GLORY!!

[Unschuld]

One thing to consider: Since the biology between plants and animals is usually vastly different, it *should* be easier to cure infected individuals. Much easier than say, a fungal infection. 
Medicine is also vastly improved in the ME3 universe, should be less need to purge the infected. The planet, that's a different story. But then again, these are space plants, and aliens (Asari). 

Modifié par Unschuld, 28 février 2012 - 03:39 .

[ObserverStatus]

 

C9316 wrote...
Dammit Bobo! First Rubber now this!? Why are you doing this to me!!!???

 
I want you to be smart.

ArkkAngel007 wrote...
Bio major huh?
This is all well and good, assuming the Thorian has the same evolutionary traits of that of Earth flora, which isn't likely for obvious reasons. However, I don't feel that the spores are no longer viable, if they ever were, as a reproductive element.

Wait, I'm a little confused here, are you saying that the spores still are viable?

Modifié par bobobo878, 28 février 2012 - 03:40 .

[Raxxman]

bobobo878 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...
@OP
Looks like someone got excited after their biology class.

Of course! I just love learning, don't you?

Raxxman wrote...
So what happens if you save Zhus Hope in ME1, and convince the corp to fork out for medical research/treatment in ME2?
it's entirely possible by that point you'll have a cure to thorian infestation, one which is less drastic than fire (and lots of it).

That is possible, but it's a heavy risk.  I didn't say it was impossible for this to turn out well for paragon players, but the thorian babies are already kicking, so to speak, and they may have a hard time curing all of them before it is too late.

come on, this is mass effect.

Splitting the fleet to save the DA is basically risking the entire galaxy to save a few thousands lives.

That's risk. You're at the galatic equiv of not sniffing the milk before drinking.

[Dr. Explosion]

I have spared all the colonists in all of my playthroughs. I would love, no LUUUUUURRRVE, it if this was one of the paragon options that comes back to bite me in the ass in ME 3.

Edit: Ever since I first learned aboot fungi that can turn ants, and other insects, into zombies, I've always wondered if such a thing could effect humans. So if this theory turns out to be true, I'll be doubly in lurve!

Modifié par Conall Cameron, 28 février 2012 - 03:51 .

[Not the Droid]

Hey This is a pretty dang good thread heheh.

Though ya seem to have overlooked the fact that it was sentient and had made a deal with saren....

And it was Not to spread across the galaxy in a Man Thing fury heheh. To bad saren double delt on it making it all pissy when shepard wanted ta bargin hehe

Seemed yo me it pretty much wanted to be left alone to do whatever plant stuff they do heheh and not wanting to give up its tools

[ObserverStatus]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Too bad we don't get to firebomb the colony.

I know right? What shepard really needs is a laser that paints targets for a tactical nuclear arsenal aboard the Normandy.

[Ravenmyste]

bobobo878 wrote...

Olej z Maku wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
Thorians and Drell didn't have to evolve to look just like humans either, but they did anyway.  Convergent evolution is a common theme in this series.

True, but what does that have to do with my argument that spores don't have to grow into new Thorians?

My point is that any good science can be used to make predictions.  Even if the Thorian is not completely the same as earthly plants, many of the same rules governing their mechanics may still apply.

 packes a lot of those grenades that knocked the people... and  then replaces each grenade  with   a phosphorus grenade and watches them runaround with white burning powder and gets few marshmallows ready for when they die..

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 28 février 2012 - 03:46 .

[TheBlackBaron]

bobobo878 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Too bad we don't get to firebomb the colony.

I know right? What shepard really needs is a laser that paints targets for a tactical nuclear arsenal aboard the Normandy.

Railguns, bo. Nuclear weapons are unncessary. We can be sure with either. 

[ObserverStatus]

Not the Droid wrote...

Hey This is a pretty dang good thread heheh.

Though ya seem to have overlooked the fact that it was sentient and had made a deal with saren....

And it was Not to spread across the galaxy in a Man Thing fury heheh. To bad saren double delt on it making it all pissy when shepard wanted ta bargin hehe

Seemed yo me it pretty much wanted to be left alone to do whatever plant stuff they do heheh and not wanting to give up its tools

That is correct. I never said that the Thorian was sentient, I said it was sapient.