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And this is why I think this random unlock system is fail!


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Aynien

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From a veteran pack....and I had got 2 more packs like this before I took this ss...

Modifié par Aynien, 27 février 2012 - 11:55 .


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Rahabzu

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Dont even talka bout your "two" every single veteran pack Ive opened since two days ago has been like that and I do play a lot. It's ridiculous how it doesn't even try to give you at LEAST a silver!

Though I highly doubt the retail version is gonna have problems like this.

Modifié par Rahabzu, 27 février 2012 - 11:58 .


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mredders91

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well im glad to see posting on forums has sloved your promble (sarcasm)

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I've noticed this too lately, every vet pack has had no gold or silver cards. I thought I may have unlocked everything, but I checked and I'm still missing the widow and the Drell vanguard. All other common weapons are level X, and all other aliens have most of their color thingys unlocked.Is there a limit to how many things you can unlock, or is this just a glitch, or a demo ceiling or something along those lines?

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the problem for me with this whole random unlocking thing is that its not fun, at all.

its a waste of my time. i want the locust and an asari adept. instead of getting sniper rifles and krogan soldiers.

its literally a waste of my time, becasu eit could have been put together much more user friendly.

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I've been playing the crap out of the demo and haven't unlocked any new playable characters. Not a single one.

And only a couple of weapons.

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Rahabzu

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I just noticed, WTF he unlocked engineer twice, lol.

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Rahabzu wrote...

I just noticed, WTF he unlocked engineer twice, lol.


yeah, thats what the hubub is all about. I've recently gotten double human character exp from my packs instead of anything else too. It's not fun to play through a round of silver just to see your hard earned credits go towards human characters... again 

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ScottimusPrime wrote...

Rahabzu wrote...

I just noticed, WTF he unlocked engineer twice, lol.


yeah, thats what the hubub is all about. I've recently gotten double human character exp from my packs instead of anything else too. It's not fun to play through a round of silver just to see your hard earned credits go towards human characters... again 


It's even worse when the said character is already maxed out...

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I understand earning EXP packs and customization options up to a certain point, but once you've unlocked everything for it, they should stop giving you those items. I've had the same issue myself, I want the Claymore and Widow, but lately I've gotten 3 extra packs for the human Adept, AFTER the point where everything is unlocked for him for customization.

I hope they're doing somehting with the unlocks, where you can get it randomly, or you can pay WAY more than is necessary and unlock one item/character specifically. Or, selling extra equipment would be cool too. I kinda have 60+ thermal clip packs, there's almost no use for them except on Gold, so why not sell them for extra credits?

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Lol, that's quite sad!

Can't wait to see the rest of the packs we can buy in the full version though. I'm hoping they'll address a lot of the issues experienced in the demo.

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spartacusthegod wrote...

I understand earning EXP packs and customization options up to a certain point, but once you've unlocked everything for it, they should stop giving you those items. I've had the same issue myself, I want the Claymore and Widow, but lately I've gotten 3 extra packs for the human Adept, AFTER the point where everything is unlocked for him for customization.

I hope they're doing somehting with the unlocks, where you can get it randomly, or you can pay WAY more than is necessary and unlock one item/character specifically. Or, selling extra equipment would be cool too. I kinda have 60+ thermal clip packs, there's almost no use for them except on Gold, so why not sell them for extra credits?


Yeah i hope they fix this repeater error too. I keep getting Asari Adept appeareance unlocks with XP bonus and shes already lvled to 20 with all appearances unlocked 

waste of credits also stop hoarding the medi gels! <_<

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spartacusthegod wrote...

I understand earning EXP packs and customization options up to a certain point, but once you've unlocked everything for it, they should stop giving you those items. I've had the same issue myself, I want the Claymore and Widow, but lately I've gotten 3 extra packs for the human Adept, AFTER the point where everything is unlocked for him for customization.

I hope they're doing somehting with the unlocks, where you can get it randomly, or you can pay WAY more than is necessary and unlock one item/character specifically. Or, selling extra equipment would be cool too. I kinda have 60+ thermal clip packs, there's almost no use for them except on Gold, so why not sell them for extra credits?


exactly, and getting two of the same in a vet pack with no silver or gold unlock is just insulting. my soldier and adept classes are lvl 20, my humans have every color/pattern/light customization unlocked, and yet I have been getting 2 human soldier exp cards per vet pack as of late. with only medigel's and thermal clip packs to fill out the remaining  3 cards. 

Speaking of thermal clip packs, I have 90+ thermal clip packs, they are WORTHLESS, there are multiple ammo boxes within sight from any point on either map. If you are out of ammo and see an ammo box, melee/use powers/sprint your way to that box or the nearest non-enemy occupied box and get your ammo. Yes, facing 5+ phantoms on gold with no ammo is a good time to use a pack, but by then you're already dead.

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Same here, I have gotten like 20 of these, even though i've unlocked all appearance customization options and reached lvl 20 with all of them.

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The thing is once you've upgraded all the common weapons and mods to max you stop getting them as unlocks from packs. The only thing left to get is the rare character and weapon cards (gold ones like the widow or krogan soldier for example.)

There is also something like half the available unlockable content in the demo, so while you may eventually run into this same situation in the main game it will take longer simply because of the volume of unlockables.

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Bhatair wrote...

The thing is once you've upgraded all the common weapons and mods to max you stop getting them as unlocks from packs. The only thing left to get is the rare character and weapon cards (gold ones like the widow or krogan soldier for example.)

There is also something like half the available unlockable content in the demo, so while you may eventually run into this same situation in the main game it will take longer simply because of the volume of unlockables.


yeah, but there are still other weapons and characters to unlock when this is happening. I have not seen a Drell or a Widow, but my lvl 20 humans can wallpaper their barracks with all of the exp cards I'm getting. 

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15 veteran packs over the weekend... and all I got was a Drell Vanguard D:

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Bhatair wrote...


There is also something like half the available unlockable content in the demo, so while you may eventually run into this same situation in the main game it will take longer simply because of the volume of unlockables.


The problem with this is: It's a random loot, this is bound to happen in the full game too, with more itens or not.

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Aynien wrote...

Bhatair wrote...


There is also something like half the available unlockable content in the demo, so while you may eventually run into this same situation in the main game it will take longer simply because of the volume of unlockables.


The problem with this is: It's a random loot, this is bound to happen in the full game too, with more itens or not.


which is exactly what I said. >.>

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Bhatair wrote...

The thing is once you've upgraded all the common weapons and mods to max you stop getting them as unlocks from packs. The only thing left to get is the rare character and weapon cards (gold ones like the widow or krogan soldier for example.)

There is also something like half the available unlockable content in the demo, so while you may eventually run into this same situation in the main game it will take longer simply because of the volume of unlockables.


except for when you keep getting the same character unlock cards that you've already maxed out. at this point i've probably gotten all the stock demo chars at least 10x each or more.

unlock system needs to have some sort of cap for when your chars are maxed out so it eliminates them from the unlock pool.

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Unlocking the same race / class again will make sense in the full game - some of the devs said this. I heard a rumor about promoting your multiplayer characters to Shepard's army. When you promote a MP character the class lvl will drop to lvl1.

But I can feel your pain... I'm also getting useless human characters from Vetaran packs instead of new weapons or race unlocks. Really annoying.

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Every time I see a post about someone complaining about the unlock system, I feel like crying.

Read the stickied topics, particularly the one ABOUT THE UNLOCK SYSTEM.

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McAllyster wrote...

Unlocking the same race / class again will make sense in the full game - some of the devs said this. I heard a rumor about promoting your multiplayer characters to Shepard's army. When you promote a MP character the class lvl will drop to lvl1.

But I can feel your pain... I'm also getting useless human characters from Vetaran packs instead of new weapons or race unlocks. Really annoying.


if this is the case then im not so worried about it i found it hard to believe they would leave this in and not notice from their own testing of the game..

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ScottimusPrime wrote...
yeah, but there are still other weapons and characters to unlock when this is happening. I have not seen a Drell or a Widow, but my lvl 20 humans can wallpaper their barracks with all of the exp cards I'm getting. 


Well, once again then:

with a vet pack you are guaranteed one silver or higher card. Game randomizes - you get a silver card. But you have all your silver unlocks, so it gets downgraded - to a blue card. You won't get higher chances on gold unlocks just because you already unlocked all your silver stuff.

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golyoscsapagy wrote...

ScottimusPrime wrote...
yeah, but there are still other weapons and characters to unlock when this is happening. I have not seen a Drell or a Widow, but my lvl 20 humans can wallpaper their barracks with all of the exp cards I'm getting. 


Well, once again then:

with a vet pack you are guaranteed one silver or higher card. Game randomizes - you get a silver card. But you have all your silver unlocks, so it gets downgraded - to a blue card. You won't get higher chances on gold unlocks just because you already unlocked all your silver stuff.


I believe someone explained it as it falls to the "backup pile" which contains only character unlocks. Pull a Widow that you already have maxed, for example, and it'll toss out the Widow and draw from the backup pile, giving you a character card instead. Obviously, some characters are more common than others, but it does increase the chances of getting a gold character since all the weapons and mods are eliminated from the backup pile.