I have yet to survive a silver match. Most begin with every player running to every corner of the map, promptly dying on Wave 2, then either abandoning the game or repeating the process until I'm the only one running around fighting 4 Atlus mechs with no medigel or rockets.
Holding a line or area seems to me to be the best general strategy in this game. Firebase White has that elevated area which works as a great rendevous point for a team, and the other has a holdable line across the map near the evac point. A sniper positioned at either end can almost hold that part of the line by himself/herself as long as they receive back-up when things get hairy. Even without mics if people are aware of the layout and spawn points its very doable.
I've come to the boards quite often, and it seems many people find silver to be fairly easy, but I'm not gaining any ground in my matches. Am I missing something?
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Melgrimm
, févr. 28 2012 02:36
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#2
Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:42
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Generally speaking, the waves without objectives are the easiest - and those are the only waves camping works on.
What class/level?
What class/level?
#3
Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:42
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communication is vital in silver, personally i would use your mic to get the group talking. helps with tag teaming phantoms, serious pain in later waves of silver
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:47
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I'm playing as a Turian Sentinel. The objectives are harder, but the only really difficult one seems to be the assassination objective, as it requires a bit of exposure to complete on time. Everything else tends to allow bunkering.
I've set my Turian up to tank, carrying a Widow and an Avenger or Revenant since the Tech armor cooldowns are brutal anyway. I mostly try to snipe, using Overload on stronger targets to only really set up my shots, but using the AR is very effective too since I can take alot of damage.
I've set my Turian up to tank, carrying a Widow and an Avenger or Revenant since the Tech armor cooldowns are brutal anyway. I mostly try to snipe, using Overload on stronger targets to only really set up my shots, but using the AR is very effective too since I can take alot of damage.
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:47
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I think you just had a lot of bad luck regarding teamates. Most I've played with in random matches seem to be able to cooperate through Silver without a mic nicely.
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:49
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Yeah, I'm probably uselessly complaining, but its baffling to watch some players spread out so thin and not tactically approach the map.
#7
Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:49
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Well your teams skill, luck and relation to there team mates can have a big impact some things are easy to over look such as spawn camping. In ME3 this is not a bad thing, if your in a spawn region (especialy on firebase white and on the extraction wave of the other one) the enemy units will generaly pop up in a different spawn spot, this is pretty important for me as I have a pretty strong advantage with my engineer on firebase unless cerbs spawn behind the plane due to my equip/power setup. The other map at the very end its possible for a whole gaggle of cerb agents to pop up near the building thats like north of the extraction zone and have a serious high ground advantage on anyone trying to get into the EZ, and anyone who rushes into the EZ will get murdered while being unreachable for revives, anyone that tries meets a bad end as well.
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:53
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Do you wait to fall back to the EZ near the end of the timer, or camp there to make your defense, Felhand?
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:54
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Level to chain overload, just sweet
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:54
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Yeah, it gets frustrating when teammates run around the map like it's COD. The most effective teams are when everyone works together to hold an area or splits into pairs of two. On Bronze, you can sort of get away with splitting up if everyone looks out for themselves, but where's the fun in that? The game is most fun when you're all playing together and supporting each other.
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:57
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most people are used to COD lone wolf play, will take some time for some players to adjust. have patience it will start working out.
#12
Posté 28 février 2012 - 02:59
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Hopefully it will. Thankfully I did not see many that play like that, though I've read more than I would have liked about them.
#13
Posté 28 février 2012 - 03:36
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The answer to your problem is contingent on some layered factors?
What lvl is your character(s) that you're running Silver's with?
What level are you're teammates?
What classes make up your team?
If you're on a PS3, add me and we'll get you through a Silver.
PSN tag: Saboteur-6
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Basically yes obviously you need some strategy but you can complete Silver compensating for the recklessness of low level characters if you yourself are using a high lvl and high tier class (Asari Adept or Widow Infiltrator for example).
As far as "basic strategy" goes there certainly are some general tips I could reccommend.
- Know your gameplay fundamentals. Know how to storm (sprint) at angles, take cover, grab melee kill from cover, headshot, aim/fire while moving, aim/fire while in cover, roll dodge, and how to land your heavy melee attack without whiffing.
- Spend money on veteran packs and use your medi-gels and ops pack when appropriate.
- Conserve rockets and use them if necessary.. Not every Atlas needs an immediate rocket blast where swarming phantoms around a downed teammate might.
- Know class power combos, mechanics, and how they synergize with teammates. Biotic Explosions, Tech Bursts first and foremost.
- Know your own powers and what enemy they're situationally appropriate for. Overload, Cryo, Incinerate, etc.
- Know high-risk/priority targets and what wave they spawn on. Your characters will call them out at the beginning of the wave. Chief offenders being Phantoms, Engineers, Nemesis, and Atlas.
- Stay at least paired up with another teammate when mobile. It's not always about camping specific areas (though there are certainly more adventageous defensible positions on each map) but protecting one another.
- Stay environmentally aware. Don't get tunnel vision and overlook a thrown grenade, placed turret, or stalking phantom. This means don't just sit in zoom aim for an entire wave.
- If you noticed your team fighting in one direction with multiple points of entry, cover weak points and flanks. You're a unit and benefit from working together. (hint: DO NOT group camp at the far room on Firebase Ghost at later levels of Silver.)
- When in doubt, stay together/near each other.
- Press the advantage on a lone wounded Phantom (depleted barrier) as her AI becomes less aggressive (she wont push into melee as much as she'll look to stealth and find cover). You need to develop a solo strategy to deal with Phantoms regardless of your class.
- If you see a dropped turret, gain cover and take it out quickly. Do this BEFORE you rush into revive a downed teammate.
- Pay attention to text prompts when someone is downed so you know what is near him.
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I apologize for the haphazard stream-of-conscious format but these can certainly help YOU help your team.
What lvl is your character(s) that you're running Silver's with?
What level are you're teammates?
What classes make up your team?
If you're on a PS3, add me and we'll get you through a Silver.
PSN tag: Saboteur-6
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Basically yes obviously you need some strategy but you can complete Silver compensating for the recklessness of low level characters if you yourself are using a high lvl and high tier class (Asari Adept or Widow Infiltrator for example).
As far as "basic strategy" goes there certainly are some general tips I could reccommend.
- Know your gameplay fundamentals. Know how to storm (sprint) at angles, take cover, grab melee kill from cover, headshot, aim/fire while moving, aim/fire while in cover, roll dodge, and how to land your heavy melee attack without whiffing.
- Spend money on veteran packs and use your medi-gels and ops pack when appropriate.
- Conserve rockets and use them if necessary.. Not every Atlas needs an immediate rocket blast where swarming phantoms around a downed teammate might.
- Know class power combos, mechanics, and how they synergize with teammates. Biotic Explosions, Tech Bursts first and foremost.
- Know your own powers and what enemy they're situationally appropriate for. Overload, Cryo, Incinerate, etc.
- Know high-risk/priority targets and what wave they spawn on. Your characters will call them out at the beginning of the wave. Chief offenders being Phantoms, Engineers, Nemesis, and Atlas.
- Stay at least paired up with another teammate when mobile. It's not always about camping specific areas (though there are certainly more adventageous defensible positions on each map) but protecting one another.
- Stay environmentally aware. Don't get tunnel vision and overlook a thrown grenade, placed turret, or stalking phantom. This means don't just sit in zoom aim for an entire wave.
- If you noticed your team fighting in one direction with multiple points of entry, cover weak points and flanks. You're a unit and benefit from working together. (hint: DO NOT group camp at the far room on Firebase Ghost at later levels of Silver.)
- When in doubt, stay together/near each other.
- Press the advantage on a lone wounded Phantom (depleted barrier) as her AI becomes less aggressive (she wont push into melee as much as she'll look to stealth and find cover). You need to develop a solo strategy to deal with Phantoms regardless of your class.
- If you see a dropped turret, gain cover and take it out quickly. Do this BEFORE you rush into revive a downed teammate.
- Pay attention to text prompts when someone is downed so you know what is near him.
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I apologize for the haphazard stream-of-conscious format but these can certainly help YOU help your team.
#14
Posté 28 février 2012 - 03:40
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Melgrimm wrote...
Do you wait to fall back to the EZ near the end of the timer, or camp there to make your defense, Felhand?
DO NOT fall back immediatley. Set a perimeter staying near each other for rezz's and fall back if/when you're overwhelmed and as the EZ timer gets low. A generally good time to start EZ huddling is around 30-20 secs left.
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Posté 28 février 2012 - 05:44
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Silver can be beaten without communication as long as at least two player stick together and help each other out throughout the whole round.
In random games, getting someone like that isn't rare, but it's by no means a guarantee.
In random games, getting someone like that isn't rare, but it's by no means a guarantee.
