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[VerdantSF]

I unlock a character perhaps 1 out of every 4 packs that I buy.  So far I've "unlocked" 6 characters.  However, the only actual new one is a Salarian Infiltrator.  The rest of them are things that aren't even locked!

Human Soldier Male, 2
Human Sentinel Female, 1
Human Adept Male, 1
Human Infiltrator Female, 1

These are all default configurations and are already unlocked .  This is so frustrating.  Can we please have the system only randomize according to what is actually locked? 

[Zeju]

You are unlocking new things. Everytime you unlock a character already unlocked, you gain customization, lights, skin tones for aliens, ectera.

After you've unlocked all of those, or a weapon is at X, then it stops appearing in the upgrade system.

[CerberusSoldier]

Its a joke of a system and EA knows it . They need to get rid of it

[FoxShadowblade]

It's a character card, not an unlock you are getting. It gives XP for the class(Soldier, Sentinel, Adept, and Infiltrator) and gives new customization options for that character.

Unlock cards are significantly more rare.

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its a joke of a system and EA knows it . They need to get rid of it

 

Strange that everyone I've talked to IRL or during a match loves the system, as well as most the people on the forums.

Seems to be the general consensus that the system is frustrating but amazing, and EA knows it.

Modifié par FoxShadowblade, 28 février 2012 - 05:11 .

[heart again]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its a joke of a system and EA knows it . They need to get rid of it

I'm sure you prefer CoD's structured unlocks and Prestiging.

[clopin]

heart again wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its a joke of a system and EA knows it . They need to get rid of it

I'm sure you prefer CoD's structured unlocks and Prestiging.

It's significantly less frustrating. I'm still waiting on my Quarian.

[SpiderFan1217]

I love it. It's like buying Poke'mon boosters. I hope get a Charizard!!!

[CerberusSoldier]

FoxShadowblade wrote...

It's a character card, not an unlock you are getting. It gives XP for the class(Soldier, Sentinel, Adept, and Infiltrator) and gives new customization options for that character.

Unlock cards are significantly more rare.

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its a joke of a system and EA knows it . They need to get rid of it

 

Strange that everyone I've talked to IRL or during a match loves the system, as well as most the people on the forums.

Seems to be the general consensus that the system is frustrating but amazing, and EA knows it.

    


Its a joke compared to what Call of Duty's unlock system is . I am sure some like it but when I go into a casino and play black jack I know the odds are scewed in the favor of the House wining . but in this it is stupid and I fully support it being nerfed or fixed .

[CerberusSoldier]

heart again wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its a joke of a system and EA knows it . They need to get rid of it

I'm sure you prefer CoD's structured unlocks and Prestiging.

   


Yes cause its the gold standard in the form of what MP unlocks should be . even COD MW 3 's spec ops has a unlock and leveling up system . That is far better than this restrictive piece of garbage . 

[VerdantSF]

OH! So does this mean Veteran packs have a better chance of giving actual character unlocks?

[Tatsumaki]

I don't know about some of you, but it came to a point where all and I kid you not, all of my Veteran packs no longer give any weapons. They now only consists of consumables and 1 or two Human Male Soldier, Human Male Soldier and more Human Male soldier. Off the top of my head I've received about close to 20 or 25 Human Male Soldiers.

On a side note there certainly is room for other weapon upgrades including the mods, but sadly none of them spawn anymore.

[Jamsxo]

Didn't Bioware say they would have more packs when the full game goes live?

Would be nice if they seperated packs a bit as well.. Character packs, Weapon packs, etc. or something along those lines.

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Zeju wrote...

You are unlocking new things. Everytime you unlock a character already unlocked, you gain customization, lights, skin tones for aliens, ectera.

After you've unlocked all of those, or a weapon is at X, then it stops appearing in the upgrade system.

That works for the weapons and mods, but not for the characters. My Human Infiltrator has been maxed out for a good while now (max level and options) and yet I'm still getting cards for her. I really hope they fix that in the full game.

[GIXXERCON 13]

Zeju wrote...

You are unlocking new things. Everytime you unlock a character already unlocked, you gain customization, lights, skin tones for aliens, ectera.

After you've unlocked all of those, or a weapon is at X, then it stops appearing in the upgrade system.

What you say of the weapons is true but does NOT apply to any of the character unlocks.
The only unlocks that I am missing as a whole are the Turian Sentinel and the Carnifex pistol- a few appearance options for the Krogan Soldier and the M98 Widow IV sniper rifle... With this being said I save up until I have between 160 & 200K credits and buy all veteran packs only to receive a male/ female of random classes (dozens beyond unlocking ALL options for the characters) or an alien species of which has been fully unlocked. All my classes are maxed out (120 N7 rating) as well.

So to sum it up there is nothing to stop the characters from appearing in the boxes (in the demo) even though you have both the class XP AND the specific character appearance options maxed out.

[Cobra5]

VerdantSF wrote...

OH! So does this mean Veteran packs have a better chance of giving actual character unlocks?

Yes, it does mean that.

Extra customization for the starting classes is fairly common in recruit packs but the new classes are almost if not totally non-existant.

If I'm not mistaken,
Common: Ammo, expendable items, upgrades for starting guns, basic modifications (Smart choke, recoil dampener...)
Uncommon: Mid tier guns, upgrades, modifications (scopes, bayonets, increased damage...)
Rare: Third tier guns, new classes

Recruit packs have only a small chance for an uncommon and I don't think they give rares at all. Veterans have a garunteed uncommon and a chance for a rare.

[Tatsumaki]

A random thought: There should be some sort of flag for example after let's say 20 or 25 Veteran boxes, the player would receive a weapon or character which does not exist in the player's inventory even if it was a Level 20 class' customization. This is of course excluding the other max level characters which have already unlocked all forms of customization.

In doing this at least amidst the monetary grind has some slither of hope to receive 'a new object' in due time rather than hopeless grinding.

[GIXXERCON 13]

Double post...

Modifié par GIXXERCON 13, 28 février 2012 - 06:41 .

[GIXXERCON 13]

Cobra5 wrote...
If I'm not mistaken,
Common: Ammo, expendable items, upgrades for starting guns, basic modifications (Smart choke, recoil dampener...)
Uncommon: Mid tier guns, upgrades, modifications (scopes, bayonets, increased damage...)
Rare: Third tier guns, new classes

Recruit packs have only a small chance for an uncommon and I don't think they give rares at all. Veterans have a garunteed uncommon and a chance for a rare.

In addition it appears to have a color coded outline when you receive the items
Common: Blue
Uncommon: Silver
Rare: Gold

And if this is the way the system works then it's flawed either because Veteran packs don't guarantee an Uncommon (Silver) or some of unlocks are categorized improperly (ie: human male/ female class characters have a Blue outline when it should be Silver)

[Kilshrek]

The number of times I've unlocked female human sentinel (after getting all the customization options.

Current system of unlocks definitely needs work, if not an overhaul. Especially when the text explicitly says you're guaranteed an uncommon or better, I've been getting 5 commons in a row too many times, especially when I have low level rare weapons waiting to be upgraded.

[Ludica]

GIXXERCON 13 wrote...

 (ie: human male/ female class characters have a Blue outline when it should be Silver)

Why? They are starter characters, they are not uncommon.

[Thunderfurby]

Character cards keep dropping after you've got all the appearance options due to the way promotion works in the full game, since the cards give exp and promotions reset the level of a character back to 1, the character cards are still useful for re-leveling.

It's just not useful on the demo since promotions aren't active.

So yea, relax.

Modifié par Thunderfurby, 28 février 2012 - 12:10 .

[ZombieGambit]

I just hate getting +12500 EXP for any class that's already at level 20 with all the appearance stuff unlocked. Annoying.

[Berkilak]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

heart again wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its a joke of a system and EA knows it . They need to get rid of it

I'm sure you prefer CoD's structured unlocks and Prestiging.

   


Yes cause its the gold standard in the form of what MP unlocks should be . even COD MW 3 's spec ops has a unlock and leveling up system . That is far better than this restrictive piece of garbage . 

Opinion.

[MADDPADD]

I've had the female sentinel card around 20 times even though I have her maxed in lvl & customisation & its the same for my human adept.

[jimmyw404]

This is the only thing that needs to be 'fixed' with the unlock system.