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[Candidate 88766]

So the Relays seem to get destroyed in all endings. Shepard sacrifices himself or dies in all but one ending. The Normandy is stranded in every ending. Is that about right?

I wanted the Reaper war to be devastating, but there isn't even a vaguely happy ending. 

I don't get Bioware's reasoning for it. I'm all for a bittersweet ending, but so many people play ME games because of the characters. It just seems odd that Bioware would basically kill them all off in eveyr ending. 

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 28 février 2012 - 12:10 .

[AlphaJarmel]

It's just mindblowing that you would literally let your most popular characters starve to death. I mean that is the worst possible way to go.

[FluffyScarf]

ME Trilogy = SW PT!

And that pretty much sums up the endings Candidate 887.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 28 février 2012 - 12:09 .

[Kasen]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

senorfuzzylips wrote...

I don't think it's a good idea to spoil the game for people on the general forums, though. The poor innocents.

Yeah...they're gonna find out soon, anyway. It's just a matter of the forums exploding tomorrow, or a week from tomorrow.

At least if it didn't get posted, we wouldn't get people denying it out of the wazoo. Might as well wait.

Agreed... though, in a way it almost seems like a kindness. I feel like I have a week to come to terms with this, before actually seeing it with my own eyes.

Candidate 88766 wrote...

So the Relays seem to get destroyed in all endings. Shepard sacrifices himself or dies in all but one ending. The Normandy is stranded in every ending. Is that about right?

I wanted the Reaper war to be devastating, but there isn't even a vaguely happy ending.

I don't get Bioware's reasoning for it. I'm all for a bittersweet ending, but so many people play ME games because of the characters. It just seems odd that Bioware would basically kill them all off in eveyr ending.

And yes... that seems to be the case.

Modifié par Kasen13, 28 février 2012 - 12:11 .

[magnuskn]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

senorfuzzylips wrote...

I don't think it's a good idea to spoil the game for people on the general forums, though. The poor innocents.

Yeah...they're gonna find out soon, anyway. It's just a matter of the forums exploding tomorrow, or a week from tomorrow.

At least if it didn't get posted, we wouldn't get people denying it out of the wazoo. Might as well wait.

As I said, I'd love to give BW a little kick in the teeth back, if they are so willing to screw their fans over. Lots of lost From the Ashes DLC's would do just that.

[CDRSkyShepard]

I'm still wondering about all our "wildly diverging conclusions." Everyone is pigeonholed into this ending, and it's either bad, or worse. I'd only be annoyed if we were all pigeonholed into a post-apocalyptic, rebuilding ending. This is just maddening.

[CptBomBom00]

BUhauauahuahauh, we should have expected this. What BioWare did here is just basically taking the easy route" Kill Shepard, Kill his friends, But hey every planet survived, but despite relays being destroyed, populations will die anyway.

[Alclieu]

Hmm, from the reactions, that makes me glad I did not click that link.

...anyway, can someone direct me towards this 'spoiler group' that gets brought up? I can't seem to find it.

I'm... curious to say the least.

[AlphaJarmel]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

So the Relays seem to get destroyed in all endings. Shepard sacrifices himself or dies in all but one ending. The Normandy is stranded in every ending. Is that about right?

I wanted the Reaper war to be devastating, but there isn't even a vaguely happy ending. 

I don't get Bioware's reasoning for it. I'm all for a bittersweet ending, but so many people play ME games because of the characters. It just seems odd that Bioware would basically kill them all off in eveyr ending. 

I really can't interprete this as anything less than a **** you to the fans.  I really can't.  I can understand everything up to Shepard sacrificing himself but the Normandy being stranded is a straight up **** you.

[FluffyScarf]

That's the group: http://social.bioware.com/group/5245/

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 28 février 2012 - 12:15 .

[daddyjah21]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

daddyjah21 wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Honestly, if there is a good reason to post this spoiler on the general forum, it's to give a good FU right back at BW, because the reaction would likely be mostly a lot of non-bought From the Ashes DLC's. Hitting BioWare financially is always the best protest, which speaks loud, clear and with authority.

unfortunately you would have biodrones defending these lame endings

Honestly I can't see anybody defending these endings if they were even close to being a fan of the franchise.  It destroys the universe lore-wise and also character-wise.

So now that there aren't any relays, there are entire planets trapped with no way to trade with each other. This knocks civilization back atleast a millenia if not more.  So you have billions starving to death and who can't reach their families or get home.  The Council Empire is dead and everyone in the Terminus systems are royally screwed too.

Character-wise, Shepard is dead in most endings and in the other one won't see the characters most people would want to continue their relationships with(platonic or otherwise).  So all those relationships are gone and are a waste.

totally agree with you my friend. but i have leared not too underestimate bioware sychopath network aka BSN

[CptBomBom00]

well, Casey stated that ME3 ends Shepard's story, but like this, for f*uck sake, this sucks, when I see it with my won eyes, and this turns out to be true, I will basically write very disappointing letter to BW, yeah very disappointing one.

[Candidate 88766]

FluffyScarf wrote...

ME Trilogy = SW PT!

And that pretty much sums up the endings Candidate 887.

Oh joy.

I don't necessarily mind the Relays going. I'd prefer and ending if they didn't, but I guess it makes sense that the energy required has to come form somewhere, and the Relays are placed all around the galaxy. I'm kind of fine with this - life has to pay a heavy price to defeat the Reapers. I'd prefer at least one ending where the Relays remain active, but I can live with this.

However, I don't like the bit about the Normandy and all the characters we've built relationships with over dozens of hours being seperated from Shepard. These games have always been about the characters. It seems a disservice to both the characters and to some extent the fans to strand them all. I just don't get it.

[CptBomBom00]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

So the Relays seem to get destroyed in all endings. Shepard sacrifices himself or dies in all but one ending. The Normandy is stranded in every ending. Is that about right?

I wanted the Reaper war to be devastating, but there isn't even a vaguely happy ending. 

I don't get Bioware's reasoning for it. I'm all for a bittersweet ending, but so many people play ME games because of the characters. It just seems odd that Bioware would basically kill them all off in eveyr ending. 

I really can't interprete this as anything less than a **** you to the fans.  I really can't.  I can understand everything up to Shepard sacrificing himself but the Normandy being stranded is a straight up **** you.

LOL, if that's the case, what was even the point of making Mass Effect series in the first place?

[FluffyScarf]

Rowling debated whether to kill Potter. She said it would have been a neater ending, but he's her hero, and she wanted him to live, to face the repercussions of everything that happened.

BW seems to want the entire series dead. Easy way out basically.

[CptBomBom00]

I'm just so f*ucking pissed at this, I've played my ass of through ME1&2, and this what I get for Paragon ending?

[Candidate 88766]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

So the Relays seem to get destroyed in all endings. Shepard sacrifices himself or dies in all but one ending. The Normandy is stranded in every ending. Is that about right?

I wanted the Reaper war to be devastating, but there isn't even a vaguely happy ending. 

I don't get Bioware's reasoning for it. I'm all for a bittersweet ending, but so many people play ME games because of the characters. It just seems odd that Bioware would basically kill them all off in eveyr ending. 

I really can't interprete this as anything less than a **** you to the fans.  I really can't.  I can understand everything up to Shepard sacrificing himself but the Normandy being stranded is a straight up **** you.

I kind of agree with this.

I don't really mind the Relay network being lost to defeat the Reapers. All the endings need temendous amounts of energy to be dispersed all around the galaxy, and the Relays are the only things that could do this. Civilization is set back, but no matter the cost 'life finds a way'. Some systems will probably fall, some will be embroiled in war, but ultimately life will continue, free of the Reapers.

However, the sendoff for the characters is something I really don't like. I just don't understand why Bioware would take all these characters that fans have grown to love over dozens of hours and then strand them somewhere away from Shepard.

[Kasen]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

So the Relays seem to get destroyed in all endings. Shepard sacrifices himself or dies in all but one ending. The Normandy is stranded in every ending. Is that about right?

I wanted the Reaper war to be devastating, but there isn't even a vaguely happy ending. 

I don't get Bioware's reasoning for it. I'm all for a bittersweet ending, but so many people play ME games because of the characters. It just seems odd that Bioware would basically kill them all off in eveyr ending. 

I really can't interprete this as anything less than a **** you to the fans.  I really can't.  I can understand everything up to Shepard sacrificing himself but the Normandy being stranded is a straight up **** you.

LOL, if that's the case, what was even the point of making Mass Effect series in the first place?

Go back a few pages and read my "psychological experiment" theory... it started as a joke, still is, but it really does sound better and better as this develops.

And yeah, I'm really in agreement with everything Candidate and Alpha said.

[Zhaictwulfram]

I'm shedding a tear right now...

I thought I was over-blowing the Day one DLC thing out of proportion. But this seems...
Part of me still wants to believe things will be different when launch day comes, that we're not seeing the whole picture; however, this is pretty damning.

[AlphaJarmel]

CptBomBom00 wrote...
LOL, if that's the case, what was even the point of making Mass Effect series in the first place?

I'm just stunned with this.  The entire second game was about building relationships.  So in the final act, you literally strand your most popular characters (Garrus, Tali, Liara, Ashley, and Joker) away from the main character even in the hardest to get ending that most people won't get anyway.  Mass Effect has always been about the characters to an extent and this pisses all over that.

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 28 février 2012 - 12:21 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Rowling debated whether to kill Potter. She said it would have been a neater ending, but he's her hero, and she wanted him to live, to face the repercussions of everything that happened.

BW seems to want the entire series dead. Easy way out basically.

Well, if Shepard lives...he/she will have a LONG time to think about it...or not, because he/she might just succumb to starvation because he/she is stuck on a wasted planet.

[Ryzaki]

...the endings are ****ty enough that my Shep'll just fail so I can kill of that damn blueberry once and for all.

It's not like the other endings are much better.

[Candidate 88766]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Rowling debated whether to kill Potter. She said it would have been a neater ending, but he's her hero, and she wanted him to live, to face the repercussions of everything that happened.

BW seems to want the entire series dead. Easy way out basically.

I don't think its taking the easy way out. Very few series have the balls to end as completely as this. Bioware could've left the end open for sequels, but instead decided to go for an absolute, definitive end. I applaud them for that.

I just don't like the way they've ended it. 

[Mims]

I think the fact that Shepard can't even die with the crew in one big explosion is somewhat heartbreaking. There really wasn't any need for the crew to get shipwrecked on some unknown planet.

[CptBomBom00]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Rowling debated whether to kill Potter. She said it would have been a neater ending, but he's her hero, and she wanted him to live, to face the repercussions of everything that happened.

BW seems to want the entire series dead. Easy way out basically.

Really bumb way, so why they didn't do it in ME1? ?heh?  this just so sad what they did, I though that ME universe was supposed to evolve around characters and story, but seeing this just proves that NO game, film or boo, never gets a proper ending, the F*ucking easy was to end trilogys is either kill off charcters or just have something destroying the world.