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Ryanianmc

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 Hello my fellow mass effect fans.
I decided to provide a compresive analysis as to why I think it would be impossiable to top ME1. 

Number 1.

Virgin lore and epic background to the mass effect universe. (including first contact war)

Number 2.

Complete ability to gear you and your squad mates to min/max with armor/weapon mods and armor / weapons

Number 3.

More of a sand-box experience - Roaming around on charted worlds with the mako connected you with you galaxy in a more tangible way. (yes, somewhat annoying at times)

Number 4.

Dynamic Combat Freedom - IE: Attack that that pack of geth colossus's on foot instead of with mako (or foot attack that thresher maw)

These are the main reason's why I feel ME2 is behind ME1.  Sure ME2 is a great game, with clear advantages over ME1.
However I don't feel they make ME2 and better game.  From what I've seen so far it looks like ME3 is going to be a clone of ME2.   I have no dought I will spend many of hours with it.  

In the end however, I maintain when all the dust has settled, ME1 will remain the most comprehensive and complete rpg experience of the entire mass effect series.  Thank you for reading.

Modifié par Ryanianmc, 28 février 2012 - 07:29 .


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me3 isnt even out yet so i dont think its fair to start saying otherwise just yet

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if they dont manage to fix the HORRID running animations on the demo that looked like they had a geth shotgun up their whatsits then i too will agree outright.

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Cool story, bro.

(I'm too bored to actually fish up that GIF)

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E-Type XR

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They already have.

It was called ME2.

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Maybe play the game first bro, before making massive leaps of assumption.

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Fair enough if you prefer ME1 over ME2, but ME3 hasn't been released yet. How about you play that before you make up your mind.

Modifié par Warden130, 28 février 2012 - 07:34 .


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Number Three is the reason I hate Bethesda games. They just don't fit my needs. :(
It is also why I'm not too concerned with how ME2 and ME3 were designed as more streamlined games.

To each their own, I guess :>

Modifié par ttchip, 28 février 2012 - 07:35 .


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E-Type XR wrote...

They already have.

It was called ME2.

ROFL, good one.

Demo pretty much represents me3 so yea its clear ME1 is the gem of the series, like I said before, it got progressively worse.

Inc fanboys

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Ryanianmc wrote...

 Hello my fellow mass effect fans.
I decided to provide a compresive analysis as to why I think it would be impossiable to top ME1. 

Number 1.

Virgin lore and epic background to the mass effect universe. (including first contact war)

Number 2.

Complete ability to gear you and your squad mates to min/max with armor/weapon mods and armor / weapons

Number 3.

More of a sand-box experience - Roaming around on charted worlds with the mako connected you with you galaxy in a more tangible way. (yes, somewhat annoying at times)

Number 4.

Dynamic Combat Freedom - IE: Attack that that pack of geth colossus's on foot instead of with mako (or foot attack that thresher maw)

These are the main reason's why I feel ME2 is behind ME1.  Sure ME2 is a great game, with clear advantages over ME1.
However I don't feel they make ME2 and better game.  From what I've seen so far it looks like ME3 is going to be a clone of ME2.   I have no dought I will spend many of hours with it.  

In the end however, I maintain when all the dust has settled, ME1 will remain the most comprehensive and complete rpg experience of the entire mass effect series.  Thank you for reading.


if by gear you/your squadmates you mean change the texture/color of the armor they are wearing. and if by roaming around you mean fighting terrible vehicle physics and badly designed terrain. then yes ME1 was better.

as far as gameplay goes, ME2 wins hands down, the story in ME1 was better however due purely to the nature of the story while the character developement in ME2 was far better.

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E-Type XR wrote...

They already have.

It was called ME2.


This.

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ttchip wrote...

Number Three is the reason I hate Bethesda games. They just don't fit my needs. :(


Me too. But in ME1's defense, you can skip all the worthless UNC missions without any problem.

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E-Type XR wrote...

They already have.

It was called ME2.

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E-Type XR wrote...

They already have.

It was called ME2.


ZING. 

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You know, I used to think that way, until I took off my nostalgia glasses and replayed ME1, only to realize how bad it is compared to ME2 and ME3.

First, ME1 had a terrible combat system if you really think about it. Since there was infinite ammo and the A.I was pretty dumb, all you had to in combat was just stay back from the enemy and shoot them one by one.

One top of that, the menu system was cluttered and clunky, especially since your inventory would get filled so much, that you would spend 1/4 of the game just sorting it out. The graphics were bland. Armor and weapon varieties are actually higher in ME2 and ME3, since most armor and weapons in ME1 reacted the same.

I could go on and on, but my point is that ME2 and ME3 mostly improves on ME1, and it would be foolish to think otherwise.

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vader da slayer wrote...

Ryanianmc wrote...

 Hello my fellow mass effect fans.
I decided to provide a compresive analysis as to why I think it would be impossiable to top ME1. 

Number 1.

Virgin lore and epic background to the mass effect universe. (including first contact war)

Number 2.

Complete ability to gear you and your squad mates to min/max with armor/weapon mods and armor / weapons

Number 3.

More of a sand-box experience - Roaming around on charted worlds with the mako connected you with you galaxy in a more tangible way. (yes, somewhat annoying at times)

Number 4.

Dynamic Combat Freedom - IE: Attack that that pack of geth colossus's on foot instead of with mako (or foot attack that thresher maw)

These are the main reason's why I feel ME2 is behind ME1.  Sure ME2 is a great game, with clear advantages over ME1.
However I don't feel they make ME2 and better game.  From what I've seen so far it looks like ME3 is going to be a clone of ME2.   I have no dought I will spend many of hours with it.  

In the end however, I maintain when all the dust has settled, ME1 will remain the most comprehensive and complete rpg experience of the entire mass effect series.  Thank you for reading.


if by gear you/your squadmates you mean change the texture/color of the armor they are wearing. and if by roaming around you mean fighting terrible vehicle physics and badly designed terrain. then yes ME1 was better.

as far as gameplay goes, ME2 wins hands down, the story in ME1 was better however due purely to the nature of the story while the character developement in ME2 was far better.



I wont say either or which is better gameplay wise - I remember playing M2 for a while and going back to ME1 and thinking "wow the combat is terriable".  After spending lots of time with the game however I found gearing  your squad and using better tatics to be just as, (or more) comprehensive as ME2.

In a nutshell this is ME2

Hide in cover - (enemy wont advance) attack
and thats it.  There are exceptions to this such as husk zergs etc... but thats the most of it

ME1 - polar opposites - NPC tend to engage player character aggressively which require you to gear and bring correct squad to counter.

Modifié par Ryanianmc, 28 février 2012 - 07:50 .


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Ryanianmc wrote...

Number 2.

Complete ability to gear you and your squad mates to min/max with armor/weapon mods and armor / weapons



And yet...everyone equipped these items:

Colossus Armor
HMWA AR
HMWSG Shotgun
HMWSR Sniper
HMWP Pistol

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I just re-started ME1, and I am having a hard time playing it.
Gameplay and mechanics are way tighter and pleasant in ME2 already.

Sure it's nice to discover a new universe. But it's also very fun to see it evolve.
ME2 toped ME1 in my books. And I am eagerly waiting for ME3, and from the few reviews released, I have read snipset like "the best the saga has to offer". So unless something goes horribly wrong, this will be very very fun.

Modifié par Slashout, 28 février 2012 - 07:52 .


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neubourn wrote...

Ryanianmc wrote...

Number 2.

Complete ability to gear you and your squad mates to min/max with armor/weapon mods and armor / weapons



And yet...everyone equipped these items:

Colossus Armor
HMWA AR
HMWSG Shotgun
HMWSR Sniper
HMWP Pistol



That is part of the awesomeness of ME1!
When did you gear you entire squad with colossus gear in me2 to shave off another 30 sec of that geth colossus on foot?  

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Ryanianmc wrote...

vader da slayer wrote...

Ryanianmc wrote...

 Hello my fellow mass effect fans.
I decided to provide a compresive analysis as to why I think it would be impossiable to top ME1. 

Number 1.

Virgin lore and epic background to the mass effect universe. (including first contact war)

Number 2.

Complete ability to gear you and your squad mates to min/max with armor/weapon mods and armor / weapons

Number 3.

More of a sand-box experience - Roaming around on charted worlds with the mako connected you with you galaxy in a more tangible way. (yes, somewhat annoying at times)

Number 4.

Dynamic Combat Freedom - IE: Attack that that pack of geth colossus's on foot instead of with mako (or foot attack that thresher maw)

These are the main reason's why I feel ME2 is behind ME1.  Sure ME2 is a great game, with clear advantages over ME1.
However I don't feel they make ME2 and better game.  From what I've seen so far it looks like ME3 is going to be a clone of ME2.   I have no dought I will spend many of hours with it.  

In the end however, I maintain when all the dust has settled, ME1 will remain the most comprehensive and complete rpg experience of the entire mass effect series.  Thank you for reading.


if by gear you/your squadmates you mean change the texture/color of the armor they are wearing. and if by roaming around you mean fighting terrible vehicle physics and badly designed terrain. then yes ME1 was better.

as far as gameplay goes, ME2 wins hands down, the story in ME1 was better however due purely to the nature of the story while the character developement in ME2 was far better.



I wont say either or which is better gameplay wise - I remember playing M2 for a while and going back to ME1 and thinking "wow the combat is terriable".  After spending lots of time with the game however I found gearing  your squad and using better tatics to be just as, (or more) comprehensive as ME2.

In a nutshell this is ME2

Hide in cover - (enemy wont advance) attack
and thats it.  There are exceptions to this such as husk zergs etc... but thats the most of it

ME1 - polar opposites - NPC tend to engage player character aggressively which require you to gear and bring correct squad to counter.








There was no rhyme or reason to anything attackers did in ME1 thought.  They were all just a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off running around....


....but damnit i still love that game to bits.

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ME1 had a better story.
ME2 had better gameplay.
ME1 had better codex.
ME2 was mostly a copy and paste of the same codex and questionable changes like the ammo change.
I would have prefered to keep the gun that never runs out of bullets and never heated up instead of using thermal clips.
Thermal clips did not make sense to me...you get additional ammo for every clip for all your weapons.
And none of them diminish when you start using them up.
Hell you can reload after every shot and no run out for a long time....
Well anyways I say ME2 kinda loses it for logic and integrity to the story and game.
enemies have infinite heavy ammo and regular ammo but I do not...
Greater variety of mods for ME1 more customization.
Sledgehammer rounds.
Proton rounds.
inferno,chemical,etc etc there were tons of mods.
ME2 we just get rid of it all and give you squad upgrades....no AMPs no tech tools...no grenade mods......much was lost to make ME2 combat a more traditional shooter.

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ME2 topped it. In my humble opinion.

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I personally prefered 2 to 1, in 1 altho the story is enthralling and i still love it, the combat and the... *shivers* mako are not fun at all, mass effect 2 combined a great story with an excellent combat system, that said both are amazing games and im sure 3 will be as well

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E-Type XR wrote...

They already have.

It was called ME2.



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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

ME2 topped it. In my humble opinion.