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[Ryzaki]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Ryzaki: Mine will actually be in the same situation with the same character most likely... only, I see it as a victory. My Shep. found somebody after all.

After years of being the stoic loner who's only purpose has been to save the galaxy - never really knowing what he was fighting for - he finds someone in the final hours. It's a vindication of sorts.

And - the best things fade the fastest. *shrugs*

Yeah my Shep's just going to want to punch someone in the face. WTF the Normandy is backing Shepard up to begin with baffles me.

YMMV and all right? This ending just no. I'm not even that angry anymore I'm just numb. It's crap. Complete and utter crap.

[dreman9999]

magnuskn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Again, didn't people complian that getting the good ending in ME2 was too easy and too glorified? You had to go out of your way to get people to die in  ME2. Now peopel are complining about the opposite? It's a war with a race that can wipe races away clean by glacing at them, why wouldn't the ending be guresome?

I don't mind having to work twice or thrice as hard to get a really good ending. But I want the option to have it. Why would I feel motivated to put effort into a game where I know that my character will get screwed over, no matter what I do?

Options, people. They should be there. They aren't. Emo Walters seems to have made sure of that.

To be or not to be.

[byne]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

You just want unrealistic happy bunnies and flowers ending, what you actually get is much more sophisticated and real...

I want a choice. Sacrificing loved characters for the better good or saving them and screwing millions of people over is a choice that is hard, and deep. If people just die because the plot demands it, it is emo, but neither deep nor special nor anything. Choices are when you have to question yourself what kind of person you are. How strong your idealism really is. How much you are going to endure for the sake of strangers before you start thinking about yourself first. These are imporant questions. People who die because you didn't bed them or because any other unrelated choice is shallow and cheap.

I assume you know the endings? in all of them you will sacrifice something for the greater good. 

THAT SOUNDS AMAZING. Man i really didn't give a **** about ME3 before, but this news has got me hyped.

Yeah, I hope I have to lose something. I mean, going through the Suicide Mission losing absolutely no one is kind of strange.

Even my Shepard didnt believe it. When TIM was trying to convince Shepard to not blow up the base she was like "Some of my crew gave their lives to get us here!".

Shepard is literally imagining dead people because no one died and she finds that hard to believe.

[Total Biscuit]

Catsith wrote...

And what 'happy' ending were people expecting? Reaper off switch? Fleet is victorious and civilizations rebuild, Shepard has a long happy life with Tali? I understand that people have become attached to their Shepard and the crew and allies, but you should have known the direction this series was talking when they frickin' killed Shepard in the first five minutes of ME2, and made the entire game about a SUICIDE mission that would most likely result in main characters dying.

This is exactly the problem. ME is built around one person triumphing over impossible odds, building relationships, crafting characters and making you care about them and their futures.. 

These endings are diametrically opposed to that.

So yes, if you've hated ME up until now for it's tone, themes, choices and directions, and wished everything that's been built up and foreshadowed so far would be tossed aside and everyone who was happy with the series gets punished for doing so, then good news! That's exactly what happens. 

You and the tiny minority of people who don't like happy endings get to have the miserable anticlimax you craved, while everyone who was a fan of ME for what it was gets royally screwed!

Modifié par Total Biscuit, 28 février 2012 - 02:15 .

[T1l]

If you completely forget about the events of Mass Effect 1 and 2, you pretty much end up with the characters in the same position as they are in Mass Effect 3.

Oh well. Casey was right, ME3 really is a good starting point to jump in to the trilogy!

Can't wait for multiplayer! BETTER WITH KINECT™!

[AlexXIV]

Honestly if I would have the choice to save a squadmate and doom millions of innocents ... I would save the squadmate without giving it a second thought. I am not a fan of sacrifice, not even for the greater good. Well, if a whole race is at stake it is somethig different. Because wiping out a species (even Rachni) is an irreversible thing and one or even many lifes are a small thing compared. Basically if I had the choice to save Tali or all the Quarians I would save the Quarians. If I had the choice to save Tali or half of the Quarian population I would save Tali. Because she is more imporant than millions or billions of people to me but not more than an entire race. Same would could for Liara or Garrus or Wrex of course.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 28 février 2012 - 02:15 .

[AkiKishi]

Juromaro wrote...
But saying just because it's a war doesn't mean someone has to die, means your pretty oblivious to how war really is. Spend a few weeks on the frontlines or better yet, Read about Nick Berg.

Depends how it's done. For example in "hold the line" in ME2 I sent Grunt one time. Now Grunt had been wading through anything and everything and not getting a scratch on him. But because of cutscene power Grunt died. That felt cheap.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Given what happens in the game, did anyone really expect a happy, sunshine and bunnies ending? It's a Reaper invasion ffs. Of course it will be tragic and require sacrifices. I don't have much problems with that; if anything, what you guys said has picked my interest. I prefer non-standard endings, usually.

Or is it THAT bad that even a Reaper invasion doesn't justify how massively screwed up they are?

[MindoirsSoleSurvivor]

So I here the endings to a galactic war are sad =O!  "GO FIGURE".

And guess who is there to always bit*h about it... THE BSN! =D

Modifié par MindoirsSoleSurvivor, 28 février 2012 - 02:14 .

[magnuskn]

Juromaro wrote...

It IS a war. You see it within the first 5 mins of the demo. And yes not everyone dies in a war, and yes not every hero dies at the end of their story.

World War 1: Over 60,000 Americans dies, I'm pretty sure some of them were heros, in someone else's eyes.
World War 2: Millions died, I'm pretty sure some of those were a hero to someone.
9/11: Over 3000 died that day, every single one of those police, firefighters, EMT, and random citizens that rushed in are heros.

You can even look at some of the most famous writers in history, Pretty much all of Shakespear's writings the hero or protaganist of his stories dies.


But saying just because it's a war doesn't mean someone has to die, means your pretty oblivious to how war really is. Spend a few weeks on the frontlines or better yet, Read about Nick Berg.

Please stop distorting our position. Nobody is saying that we want an ending where nobody died and we used fluffy bunnies to stop the Reapers. There should be sacrifice, but there should be a chance to make it through and have a good ending for Shepard, too, instead of forcing a "screwed, no matter what" end on him.

[Texhnolyze101]

byne wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

You just want unrealistic happy bunnies and flowers ending, what you actually get is much more sophisticated and real...

I want a choice. Sacrificing loved characters for the better good or saving them and screwing millions of people over is a choice that is hard, and deep. If people just die because the plot demands it, it is emo, but neither deep nor special nor anything. Choices are when you have to question yourself what kind of person you are. How strong your idealism really is. How much you are going to endure for the sake of strangers before you start thinking about yourself first. These are imporant questions. People who die because you didn't bed them or because any other unrelated choice is shallow and cheap.

I assume you know the endings? in all of them you will sacrifice something for the greater good. 

THAT SOUNDS AMAZING. Man i really didn't give a **** about ME3 before, but this news has got me hyped.

Yeah, I hope I have to lose something. I mean, going through the Suicide Mission losing absolutely no one is kind of strange.

Even my Shepard didnt believe it. When TIM was trying to convince Shepard to not blow up the base she was like "Some of my crew gave their lives to get us here!".

Shepard is literally imagining dead people because no one died and she finds that hard to believe.

It is weird that you can get that dialog even if no one died

[AkiKishi]

byne wrote...

Even my Shepard didnt believe it. When TIM was trying to convince Shepard to not blow up the base she was like "Some of my crew gave their lives to get us here!".

Shepard is literally imagining dead people because no one died and she finds that hard to believe.

That line refers to the liquidised crew not the companions.

[dreman9999]

Ryzaki wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Total Biscuit: sometimes bad things happen to good people?

It looks like I might be happy with at least one of these endings.

Depends. Does your Shep have any large attachment to the Normandy crew? If not yeah you'll be happy.

Again, a war with a race that wipes out races with easy....What do you expect?...It's sound more and more like the issues is fan service.

[Medhia Nox]

I will say - are all the people that are "This is war." willing to lose their Shepard's no matter what?

I don't know the endings... but I see what I feel to be a lot of double standard here.

"Sure, I should lose NPCs - cause it's WAR!!!" but "I didn't like FO3 - cause that ending was a waste."

So - if your Shep. dies - is that "Great because it's WAR!" also? Or is that "unfair" and a "letdown" to the series?

[Bigdoser]

I personally would of liked if me3 endings was abit more like DAO endings well thats my opinion.

[SealKudos]

FluffyScarf wrote...

The 'happiest' ending isn't happy at all. To put it bluntly.

101ezylonhxe T wrote...

There is int a "happiest" ending ending period.

JediHealerCosmin wrote...

It's sadistic...

Oh, great... <_<

Well, I'll just have to see.  I can stand bad endings - really bad endings - but apparently I'm screwed.

[Ryzaki]

dreman9999 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Total Biscuit: sometimes bad things happen to good people?

It looks like I might be happy with at least one of these endings.

Depends. Does your Shep have any large attachment to the Normandy crew? If not yeah you'll be happy.

Again, a war with a race that wipes out races with easy....What do you expect?...It's sound more and more like the issues is fan service.

I'm so getting sick of this.

Spoilers below highlight.


I expected their to be sacrifices. Not of everything. If the relays had gone boom and there had been massive devastation (like you know there should've been) and Shep could only save 2 people (the crewmembers he had go with him) and the Normandy blew up and several of the crew and squad ended up dying as a result? I would've been okay with that.) 

Oh BTW Tali and Garrus are most likely going to starve to death on that planet they're isolated on.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 02:20 .

[AkiKishi]

Medhia Nox wrote...

I will say - are all the people that are "This is war." willing to lose their Shepard's no matter what?

I don't know the endings... but I see what I feel to be a lot of double standard here.

"Sure, I should lose NPCs - cause it's WAR!!!" but "I didn't like FO3 - cause that ending was a waste."

So - if your Shep. dies - is that "Great because it's WAR!" also? Or is that "unfair" and a "letdown" to the series?

I like FO3 but I never got the option to send the completely immune to radiation SM that was stood right next to me....
That kind of ruined it for me.

[dreman9999]

Total Biscuit wrote...

Catsith wrote...

And what 'happy' ending were people expecting? Reaper off switch? Fleet is victorious and civilizations rebuild, Shepard has a long happy life with Tali? I understand that people have become attached to their Shepard and the crew and allies, but you should have known the direction this series was talking when they frickin' killed Shepard in the first five minutes of ME2, and made the entire game about a SUICIDE mission that would most likely result in main characters dying.

This is exactly the problem. ME is built around one person triumphing over impossible odds, building relationships, crafting characters and making you care about them and their futures.. 

These endings are diametrically opposed to that.

So yes, if you've hated ME up until now for it's tone, themes, choices and directions, and wished everything that's been built up and foreshadowed so far would be tossed aside and everyone who was happy with the series gets punished for doing so, then good news! That's exactly what happens. 

You and the tiny minority of people who don't like happy endings get to have the miserable anticlimax you craved, while everyone who was a fan of ME for what it was gets royally screwed!

Again, be realistic. Ifit were a happier ending....Waaaaaaaay more people wil complain. The reapers have to feel like the ultamate threat....It's clear now that they are.

[FluffyScarf]

Um, Ryzaki, spoilers...

[kingsims]

Okay is the worst ending the everyone dies ending including the reapers confirm (Exactly like the worst ending in ME2 but no joker or TIM) (yes/no)

Modifié par kingsims, 28 février 2012 - 02:19 .

[byne]

BobSmith101 wrote...

byne wrote...

Even my Shepard didnt believe it. When TIM was trying to convince Shepard to not blow up the base she was like "Some of my crew gave their lives to get us here!".

Shepard is literally imagining dead people because no one died and she finds that hard to believe.

That line refers to the liquidised crew not the companions.

None of my crew got liquified either. I went directly through the relay after the Collectors took my crew.

My Shepard is just crazy.

[CDRSkyShepard]

dreman9999 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Total Biscuit: sometimes bad things happen to good people?

It looks like I might be happy with at least one of these endings.

Depends. Does your Shep have any large attachment to the Normandy crew? If not yeah you'll be happy.

Again, a war with a race that wipes out races with easy....What do you expect?...It's sound more and more like the issues is fan service.

If they were gonna do some of the fanservice I've seen, they might as well have done this one...it would have been the least controversial and most sensical.

I don't need a "happy" ending...what I want is "Well, we're bombed back to the stone age, let's make the best of it." with some key companions missing due to being casualties of war. Patton still returned to America after WWII...

[noxpanda]

Total Biscuit wrote...

Catsith wrote...

And what 'happy' ending were people expecting? Reaper off switch? Fleet is victorious and civilizations rebuild, Shepard has a long happy life with Tali? I understand that people have become attached to their Shepard and the crew and allies, but you should have known the direction this series was talking when they frickin' killed Shepard in the first five minutes of ME2, and made the entire game about a SUICIDE mission that would most likely result in main characters dying.

This is exactly the problem. ME is built around one person triumphing over impossible odds, building relationships, crafting characters and making you care about them and their futures.. 

These endings are diametrically opposed to that.

So yes, if you've hated ME up until now for it's tone, themes, choices and directions, and wished everything that's been built up and foreshadowed so far would be tossed aside and everyone who was happy with the series gets punished for doing so, then good news! That's exactly what happens. 

You and the tiny minority of people who don't like happy endings get to have the miserable anticlimax you craved, while everyone who was a fan of ME for what it was gets royally screwed!

Very eloquent! This!! ^^ This times ten friggin thousand!! It just makes playing through me1 and 2 totally pointless for me when there are no choices for the ending of me3!

[FluffyScarf]

Let it all out noxpanda. Scream out the window. Or have you done that already?

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 28 février 2012 - 02:20 .