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[AkiKishi]

byne wrote...
None of my crew got liquified either. I went directly through the relay after the Collectors took my crew.

My Shepard is just crazy.

They did. That only deternines whether you see Doc get liquified.

[Ryzaki]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Um, Ryzaki, spoilers...

Edited.

[AlexXIV]

SealKudos wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

The 'happiest' ending isn't happy at all. To put it bluntly.

101ezylonhxe T wrote...

There is int a "happiest" ending ending period.

JediHealerCosmin wrote...

It's sadistic...

Oh, great... <_<

Well, I'll just have to see.  I can stand bad endings - really bad endings - but apparently I'm screwed.

Well if it is true we're all screwed. Welcome to the club.

[byne]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

I will say - are all the people that are "This is war." willing to lose their Shepard's no matter what?

I don't know the endings... but I see what I feel to be a lot of double standard here.

"Sure, I should lose NPCs - cause it's WAR!!!" but "I didn't like FO3 - cause that ending was a waste."

So - if your Shep. dies - is that "Great because it's WAR!" also? Or is that "unfair" and a "letdown" to the series?

I like FO3 but I never got the option to send the completely immune to radiation SM that was stood right next to me....
That kind of ruined it for me.

You can send Fawkes if you have Broken Steel. He's all 'Oh right I can survive this, clearly you giving money to Bethesda has made me less retarded'

[Texhnolyze101]

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

@Total Biscuit: sometimes bad things happen to good people?

It looks like I might be happy with at least one of these endings.

Depends. Does your Shep have any large attachment to the Normandy crew? If not yeah you'll be happy.

Again, a war with a race that wipes out races with easy....What do you expect?...It's sound more and more like the issues is fan service.

I'm so getting sick of this.

I expected their to be sacrifices. Not of everything. If the relays had gone boom and there had been massive devastation (like you know there should've been) and Shep could only save 2 people (the crewmembers he had go with him) and the Normandy blew up and several of the crew and squad ended up dying as a result? I would've been okay with that.) 

edit >.>

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 28 février 2012 - 02:27 .

[dreman9999]

Medhia Nox wrote...

I will say - are all the people that are "This is war." willing to lose their Shepard's no matter what?

I don't know the endings... but I see what I feel to be a lot of double standard here.

"Sure, I should lose NPCs - cause it's WAR!!!" but "I didn't like FO3 - cause that ending was a waste."

So - if your Shep. dies - is that "Great because it's WAR!" also? Or is that "unfair" and a "letdown" to the series?

Look at what the reapers can do......Even i SAW FROM me1 and ME2 that it was not going to be a very happy ending.
At least it won't a gundam zeta ending.

[CDRSkyShepard]

BobSmith101 wrote...

byne wrote...
None of my crew got liquified either. I went directly through the relay after the Collectors took my crew.

My Shepard is just crazy.

They did. That only deternines whether you see Doc get liquified.

False. If you go immediately, you only see the colonist get liquified and save the whole crew. Also, the only way Chakwas can die is if you don't send her back to the ship with an escort.

[AlphaJarmel]

Here's the deal, the kick in the balls part isn't needed nor really adds anything. It's pretty much done just to be done.

[AkiKishi]

dreman9999 wrote...

Again, be realistic. Ifit were a happier ending....Waaaaaaaay more people wil complain. The reapers have to feel like the ultamate threat....It's clear now that they are.

Why exactly are you spending time collecting assets and raising GR if it's a completely pointless task ?

May as well just collect the LIs and have a mass orgy until the Reapers arrive.

[byne]

BobSmith101 wrote...

byne wrote...
None of my crew got liquified either. I went directly through the relay after the Collectors took my crew.

My Shepard is just crazy.

They did. That only deternines whether you see Doc get liquified.

No dude not a single member of my crew was liquified. If you go directly through, you see the colonist from Horizon get liquified but the rest of your crew is fine.

Trust me, I counted my crew before and after the suicide mission. They all came back.

[kingsims]

So basically true paragons won't have a "happily ever after, rebuild ending" kinda sad imo. I Will feel really bad for though if peoples LI like garrus or tali end up dying (expect BSN to ask for a "What if ending DLC")

Modifié par kingsims, 28 février 2012 - 02:24 .

[noxpanda]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Let it all out noxpanda. Scream out the window. Or have you done that already?

*bounces off the freaking walls whilst screaming out the window* Can anyone even hear meeee?!!

rarrrgh!

Panda smash bioware!!!!!

[AlexXIV]

dreman9999 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

I will say - are all the people that are "This is war." willing to lose their Shepard's no matter what?

I don't know the endings... but I see what I feel to be a lot of double standard here.

"Sure, I should lose NPCs - cause it's WAR!!!" but "I didn't like FO3 - cause that ending was a waste."

So - if your Shep. dies - is that "Great because it's WAR!" also? Or is that "unfair" and a "letdown" to the series?

Look at what the reapers can do......Even i SAW FROM me1 and ME2 that it was not going to be a very happy ending.
At least it won't a gundam zeta ending.

Well if I compare FO:NV. You get multiple endings of which none are perfect but some are better than others. I kind of liked that. I don't need happily ever after moment, actually it would feel a bit bad. But I want something that I can live with. Aka seeing how everything else would have been worse.

[magnuskn]

completely sadistic

Ahem, you just quoted the spoilers which Ryzaki edited out of his post. ^^ You probably should correct that.

[ElitePinecone]

kingsims wrote...

Okay is the worst ending the everyone dies ending including the reapers confirm (Exactly like the worst ending in ME2 but no joker or TIM) (yes/no)

No, but in practice (and eventually) it gets close to that result. 

[TheComfyCat]

People keep bringing up sunshine, rainbows, bunnies, etc. That's not what most people are really asking for. I want to feel the gravity of the galactic war, so it's not so much about everything being perfect. It's more about Shepard's story ending well. This is, of course, completely subjective, but that's why giving us a variety of endings allows for satisfaction from a wider audience. These endings remove the last, scant traces of player agency (meaning you don't really feel like you control your path, which makes the journey from ME1 feel like it was all for naught).

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 28 février 2012 - 02:27 .

[Ryzaki]

magnuskn wrote...

completely sadistic

Ahem, you just quoted the spoilers which Ryzaki edited out of his her post. ^^ You probably should correct that.

This.

Also something else humorous (to me anyway) highlight below for spoilers

If the crew of the Normandy repopulates the island...that means Shep's
LI probably ends up screwing someone else. XD This is especially
hilarious if Shep stayed loyal.(to me anyway. But I have a wonky sense
of humor).

So...Vega and Ashley, Kaidan and Kelly? Maybe someone
else. Garrus and Tali obviously. Liara and...well Liara would probably
stay single and cling to Shep's old armory or something. Make a shrine
out of Shep's quarters if they're still in one piece.

XD

[The Elder King]

Total Biscuit wrote...


This is exactly the problem. ME is built around one person triumphing over impossible odds, building relationships, crafting characters and making you care about them and their futures.. 

These endings are diametrically opposed to that.

So yes, if you've hated ME up until now for it's tone, themes, choices and directions, and wished everything that's been built up and foreshadowed so far would be tossed aside and everyone who was happy with the series gets punished for doing so, then good news! That's exactly what happens. 

You and the tiny minority of people who don't like happy endings get to have the miserable anticlimax you craved, while everyone who was a fan of ME for what it was gets royally screwed!

I loved ME and ME2, and I'm fine with the endings. Though it's probably because I like both happy endings and bittersweet endings.
I understand your point and feel sorry for you and every other people who expected an happy ending. My brother feels the same, and he's quite angry about it.

Modifié par hhh89, 28 février 2012 - 02:27 .

[Medhia Nox]

While I don't think it's all so world ending as Total Biscuit makes it out (it is just a game series) - I do agree that the elements of a traditional Bioware game are opposite of a gritty story of loss and struggle.

Bioware games tend to cater to the most saccharin type of hero fantasy.

The precedent for loss, tragedy and struggle really should be set forth in the introduction to the series - and Virmire simply wasn't enough. It was one choice - a fluke... much like the suicide mission.

They were trying to break their audience into it slowly - and I feel like it has backfired (given the evidence of this thread).

ME 1 should have been brutal - with the loss of many team members we came to like - and then the player would have been informed going into 2 and 3 that this is going to be the standard of this series.

[silentspec111]

@kingsims>>it's much more worse...to the point of being sadistic where it could be implied garrus n tali starves to death....

[FluffyScarf]

Not you too silentspec...

[magnuskn]

senorfuzzylips wrote...

People keep bringing up sunshine, rainbows, bunnies, etc. That's not what most people are really asking for. I want to feel the gravity of the galactic war, so it's not so much about everything being perfect. It's more about Shepard's story ending well. This is, of course, completely subjective, but that's why giving us a variety of endings allows for satisfaction from a wider audience. These endings remove the last, scant traces of player agency.

Mostly they make me distrust BioWare, since this taking away choice from the players is becoming a real trend with them. Makes all their PR blather about "listening to the fans" seem really, really disingenous.

We'll see what happens when the game comes out and all people can see those endings... and realize that, no matter what, Shepard is screwed. Most likely this:

Modifié par magnuskn, 28 février 2012 - 02:29 .

[Total Biscuit]

dreman9999:

Bollocks. The same few miseries who didn't like the last 2 endings would have complained. Most people would have been happy. I'm sorry that some people can't accept that liking unhappy endings is really unusual, but it is. It doesn't make you right or wrong, better or worse than anyone else, you just have odd tastes.

And besides, no one is complaining that the endings aren't overwhelmingly happy, or that there shouldn't be any sad or bitter sweet endings, we're complaining that there ARE NO HAPPY OR GOOD ENDINGS WHATSOEVER! There's NO CHOICE! And it's it's completely out of character fortune ME frqnchise as has been sold to us up until now.

[Texhnolyze101]

spoilers...spoilers everywhere. lol