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[Ryzaki]

dreman9999 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
As nice as that would be....It would be a lie....A war like this would not have any happy end for the hero.....And hereing this and happy for it because I alway suppected it.

This is a video game.

Where the protag has had happy endings for the last 2 in the series. Where yes there is some sacrifices but for the most part? He gets back up and walks with his head high.

That not being in ME3 to me makes it not worth playing. Not  until I can find a copy for like 10 bucks.

Plus optional you don't want happy ending for your Shep? Don't take it.

That means nothing. That's like something sould not be impact full because it's a book/movie/cartoon/play /etc. Why even think like that?

It sound like you just want the happy fantasy, which is my issue with everyone up set with the ending.  It would be a joke if it didn't do this.
It's unrealistic to even think this would end happily.

Probably because I don't want 6+ variations of a lousy ending.

Wrong. But keep trying to pretend I want everything to be happy because I don't want to complete fail that the endings are supposedly. As for a joke. The Asari are a joke to me some of the romances are jokes to me they put those in. This ending wouldn't be.

This game isn't realistic.

If you think it is you're delusional.

[AkiKishi]

Juromaro wrote...

"Ah Yes, the I will stop buying if you don't cater to me club"....ah we have dismissed those claims.

Go ahead don't buy the game, don't buy any more Bioware products ever....The people who have played the game were satisfied with the endings.....the people who haven't however are the ones sitting here in this thread crying because of what they read in a Leaked script, or someone datamining something.

Seems moronic in a game with 7 endings.

[Ryzaki]

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

I've previously stated that I'm not big on dark endings - but a game centered around galactic genocide should not have a "good" ending for the very simple reason that nothing "good" can come from galactic genocide.

Does the term "suspense of disbelief" mean anything to you at all?

Don't the terms "In your opinion" and "Hey, it's fiction, not real life!" mean anything to you?

They do. Neither applies to my previous statement.

Yes, you read that right.

Fiction has to be more believable than reality.

No. It has to be more satisfying. Which means different things to different people. As a multiple options game, Mass Effect 3 should have catered to the different groups, not just one sub-set.

This.

There's little reason for all 6 endings to be gloomy. I'm not asking for a rainbows and sunshine ending but one where Shep's not completely boned would be nice. <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 03:33 .

[panamakira]

kingsims wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

panamakira wrote...

*gasps* Does Shep die? I will literally BURN my copy even though it's a big possibility seeing how everything will blow in our faces a la Reaper.

In case you're wondering I'm just guessing yo~

Yes and no. Depends what choice you take.

That's not surprising. DA:O gave us a similar option and I took it in one of my many playthroughs. Hopefully again, we have an option. Unless of course it's like "save your LI and die or let your LI die and live" kind thing. That might be tragically interesting.

I hope the LI can live and find happiness after shepard death like a true paragon .

LMAO~ that would be the true "Paragon" way. I guess I end up being a "Paragade" after all~  

[AllThatJazz]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Juromaro wrote...

"Ah Yes, the I will stop buying if you don't cater to me club"....ah we have dismissed those claims.

Go ahead don't buy the game, don't buy any more Bioware products ever....The people who have played the game were satisfied with the endings.....the people who haven't however are the ones sitting here in this thread crying because of what they read in a Leaked script, or someone datamining something.

Seems moronic in a game with 7 endings.

I'm confused about the 7 endings. Have all of them been spoiled? I've heard about 4 of them in the 'Hammer and 'Sword' thread, but have the other three been spoiled too? If so, I'm assuming they aren't much different to what I've already read ...

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 28 février 2012 - 03:34 .

[panamakira]

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

I've previously stated that I'm not big on dark endings - but a game centered around galactic genocide should not have a "good" ending for the very simple reason that nothing "good" can come from galactic genocide.

Does the term "suspense of disbelief" mean anything to you at all?

Don't the terms "In your opinion" and "Hey, it's fiction, not real life!" mean anything to you?

They do. Neither applies to my previous statement.

Yes, you read that right.

Fiction has to be more believable than reality.

No. It has to be more satisfying. Which means different things to different people. As a multiple options game, Mass Effect 3 should have catered to the different groups, not just one sub-set.

Well said. Thank you.

[Femlob]

Ryzaki wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

I've previously stated that I'm not big on dark endings - but a game centered around galactic genocide should not have a "good" ending for the very simple reason that nothing "good" can come from galactic genocide.

Does the term "suspense of disbelief" mean anything to you at all?

Don't the terms "In your opinion" and "Hey, it's fiction, not real life!" mean anything to you?

They do. Neither applies to my previous statement.

Yes, you read that right.

Fiction has to be more believable than reality.

No. It has to be more satisfying. Which means different things to different people. As a multiple options game, Mass Effect 3 should have catered to the different groups, not just one sub-set.

This.

There's little reason for all 6 endings to be gloomy. I'm not asking for a rainbows and sunshine ending but one where Shep's not completely boned would be nice. <_<

It shouldn't cater to anyone. It should just be a set of proper, believable endings to a story about galactic genocide.

What people fail to realise is that you, as Shepard, can only influence the outcome; we're two games in and we still don't have a single solid lead on how to defeat the Reapers. That they'll be going 'round tearin' sh*t up while Shepard's frantically searching for an answer is a given.

Modifié par Femlob, 28 février 2012 - 03:36 .

[Mims]

There really is only three endings with varying shades of destruction, as far as I can tell.

[magnuskn]

Femlob wrote...

Petulant little kid.

I see we are down to insulting people who don't share your opinion.

Juromaro wrote...

"Ah Yes, the I will stop buying if you don't cater to me club"....ah we have dismissed those claims.

Go
ahead don't buy the game, don't buy any more Bioware products
ever....The people who have played the game were satisfied with the
endings.....the people who haven't however are the ones sitting here in
this thread crying because of what they read in a Leaked script, or
someone datamining something.

<shrug> I bought DA2. I bought SWTOR. I already have paid for ME3. BioWare got my money until now, but they have lost my trust and thusly have lost a costumer.

If you don't like me telling why I will not subsidize continued FU's to their own fanbase, stop reading my posts.

[AkiKishi]

AllThatJazz wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Juromaro wrote...

"Ah Yes, the I will stop buying if you don't cater to me club"....ah we have dismissed those claims.

Go ahead don't buy the game, don't buy any more Bioware products ever....The people who have played the game were satisfied with the endings.....the people who haven't however are the ones sitting here in this thread crying because of what they read in a Leaked script, or someone datamining something.

Seems moronic in a game with 7 endings.

I'm confused about the 7 endings. Have all of them been spoiled? I've heard about 4 of them in the 'Hammer and 'Sword' thread, but have the other three been spoiled too? If so, I'm assuming they aren't much different to what I've already read ...

I'm only getting stuff second hand so I don't know. I was just trying to make the point that if you have seven endings going out to annoy anyone is kinda stupid.

If there was one fixed ending , then I would totally get it.

[Ryzaki]

Femlob wrote...
It shouldn't cater to anyone. It should just be a set of proper, believable endings to a story about galactic genocide.

What people fail to realise is that you, as Shepard, can only influence the outcome; we're two games in and we still don't have a single solid lead on how to defeat the Reapers. That they'll be going 'round tearin' sh*t up while Shepard's frantically searching for an answer is a given.

It's a video game. Yes it should cater to its audience.

Spoilers below highlight.

Yes I mean the Normandy teleporting during the battle on Earth to some garden planet that's isolated without a relay and somehow making a colony is oh so very believeable.

Never argued the Reapers shouldn't be tearing s*** up and killing people. I'm just arguing against the Normandy and Shep's crew vanishing out of nowhere.

Dead would've been preferable.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 03:40 .

[Femlob]

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Petulant little kid.

I see we are down to insulting people who don't share your opinion.

His reply implied his vomiting on an opinion he didn't share. You reap what you sow.

[FluffyScarf]

Spoilers again...

[silentspec111]

this thread reminds me of the time the DA2 story got leaked...there were people there too who defended the storyline and moral choices quoting them to be "believable" or having correct ending to a mage templer conflict etc etc....then ofcourse a few weeks later the game came out and the rest is history

[Giantdeathrobot]

I read the endings and... yikes, no jokes, that's hella bleak stuff right there. The fate of the galaxy goes from bad to relatively good, but Shepard and crew get monumentally screwed up pretty much no matter what.

That said, apparently the guide mentions a ''Perfect Ending'' no one knows about if you do a NG+. So the hopes of an happy ending aren't completely gone.

What I know is that come March 6-9 there will be rage. Much, much rage indeed. As in, the rage concerning the From Ashes DLC or DA2 will seem like a calm breeze to the massive hellacious storm. I don,t always revel in the suffering of others, but oh this will be beautiful to watch.

[Ryzaki]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Spoilers again...

Yeah forgot I was in the no spoilers section again.

[The Elder King]

Ryzaki wrote...



This game isn't realistic.

I agree, but not for the characters's fate in the endings/epilogue.

[Han Shot First]

Juromaro wrote...

You get multiple options. In some options people survive even shepard, in some options no one survives, in others only a few survive. You just don't get the candy coated Shepard unscathed option. at least from the reviews and spoilers I read.

Fantastic.

It sounds like Bioware put good storytelling ahead of ridiculous fan demands.

[AllThatJazz]

BobSmith101 wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Juromaro wrote...

"Ah Yes, the I will stop buying if you don't cater to me club"....ah we have dismissed those claims.

Go ahead don't buy the game, don't buy any more Bioware products ever....The people who have played the game were satisfied with the endings.....the people who haven't however are the ones sitting here in this thread crying because of what they read in a Leaked script, or someone datamining something.

Seems moronic in a game with 7 endings.

I'm confused about the 7 endings. Have all of them been spoiled? I've heard about 4 of them in the 'Hammer and 'Sword' thread, but have the other three been spoiled too? If so, I'm assuming they aren't much different to what I've already read ...

I'm only getting stuff second hand so I don't know. I was just trying to make the point that if you have seven endings going out to annoy anyone is kinda stupid.

If there was one fixed ending , then I would totally get it.

Oh yeah, I agree with you. If there are seven endings there need to be seven endings, not seven shades of one ending. Otherwise, why bother?

[Texhnolyze101]

Femlob wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Petulant little kid.

I see we are down to insulting people who don't share your opinion.

Her reply implied her vomiting on an opinion she didn't share. You reap what you sow.

fixed

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 28 février 2012 - 03:40 .

[dreman9999]

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
As nice as that would be....It would be a lie....A war like this would not have any happy end for the hero.....And hereing this and happy for it because I alway suppected it.

This is a video game.

Where the protag has had happy endings for the last 2 in the series. Where yes there is some sacrifices but for the most part? He gets back up and walks with his head high.

That not being in ME3 to me makes it not worth playing. Not  until I can find a copy for like 10 bucks.

Plus optional you don't want happy ending for your Shep? Don't take it.

That means nothing. That's like something sould not be impact full because it's a book/movie/cartoon/play /etc. Why even think like that?

It sound like you just want the happy fantasy, which is my issue with everyone up set with the ending.  It would be a joke if it didn't do this.
It's unrealistic to even think this would end happily.

Probably because I don't want 6+ variations of a lousy ending.

Wrong. But keep trying to pretend I want everything to be happy because I don't want to complete fail that the endings are supposedly. As for a joke. The Asari are a joke to me some of the romances are jokes to me they put those in. This ending wouldn't be.

This game isn't realistic.

If you think it is you're delusional.

Ofc ourse it's not 100% realist. But the context of servive a warwith a race that can do all of what the reapers can do is unrealistic.

The problem is not you getting 7+ lousy endings....You just want an unrealistic few.  And I don't see how that would possible without butching the context of the game.

[Femlob]

silentspec111 wrote...

this thread reminds me of the time the DA2 story got leaked...there were people there too who defended the storyline and moral choices quoting them to be "believable" or having correct ending to a mage templer conflict etc etc....then ofcourse a few weeks later the game came out and the rest is history

I argue based on what I know - which is less than others, because I haven't read the spoilers. I can't speak for anyone else.

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Femlob wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Petulant little kid.

I see we are down to insulting people who don't share your opinion.

Her reply implied her vomiting on an opinion she didn't share. You reap what you sow.

fixed

My bad.

Modifié par Femlob, 28 février 2012 - 03:41 .

[Ryzaki]

hhh89 wrote...
I agree, but not for the characters's fate in the endings/epilogue.

Actually I'd argue that was the most unrealistic of it all. You need a certain population group for that to be a viable plan. And the Normandy's crew isn't that large.

[magnuskn]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

I read the endings and... yikes, no jokes, that's hella bleak stuff right there. The fate of the galaxy goes from bad to relatively good, but Shepard and crew get monumentally screwed up pretty much no matter what.

That said, apparently the guide mentions a ''Perfect Ending'' no one knows about if you do a NG+. So the hopes of an happy ending aren't completely gone.

Look, if there is a "Perfect Ending" with another playthrough, I'll take everything I said back. Because then BioWare did indeed realize that "maybe we should include a hard work option for the people who don't like all this bleak stuff..."

Not really putting much hope on this, though.