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[silentspec111]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

I read the endings and... yikes, no jokes, that's hella bleak stuff right there. The fate of the galaxy goes from bad to relatively good, but Shepard and crew get monumentally screwed up pretty much no matter what.

That said, apparently the guide mentions a ''Perfect Ending'' no one knows about if you do a NG+. So the hopes of an happy ending aren't completely gone.

What I know is that come March 6-9 there will be rage. Much, much rage indeed. As in, the rage concerning the From Ashes DLC or DA2 will seem like a calm breeze to the massive hellacious storm. I don,t always revel in the suffering of others, but oh this will be beautiful to watch.

as much i wish that to be true, it is not. NG+ dosent give you any secret perfect ending...dataming the game concluded that much for sure...

[Ryzaki]

dreman9999 wrote...
Ofc ourse it's not 100% realist. But the context of servive a warwith a race that can do all of what the reapers can do is unrealistic.

The problem is not you getting 7+ lousy endings....You just want an unrealistic few.  And I don't see how that would possible without butching the context of the game.

You seem to not understand none of the endings would be realistic in this scenario. None of them. Especially not M where space magic is the trigger for a change in every being in the galaxy.

So yes there's no "realism" to butcher because the endings already are unrealistic. They're just unrealistic and bleak as well.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 03:44 .

[FluffyScarf]

There are already some pretty good suggestions for a 'happier' ending. They certainly don't sound any worse than the ones we have so far. In fact, one of the fan created 'happy' endings pays homage to the ending in ME 1.

[Kanmuru]

Actually i just read the spoiler again and it talks about a happy/sunshine ending and how to get it >.>

highlight(spoilers):   forget it lol

Modifié par Kanmuru, 28 février 2012 - 03:45 .

[Mims]

There is no perfect ending, unless it is hidden or to be patched in. The guy checked the files.

[AkiKishi]

magnuskn wrote...

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

I read the endings and... yikes, no jokes, that's hella bleak stuff right there. The fate of the galaxy goes from bad to relatively good, but Shepard and crew get monumentally screwed up pretty much no matter what.

That said, apparently the guide mentions a ''Perfect Ending'' no one knows about if you do a NG+. So the hopes of an happy ending aren't completely gone.

Look, if there is a "Perfect Ending" with another playthrough, I'll take everything I said back. Because then BioWare did indeed realize that "maybe we should include a hard work option for the people who don't like all this bleak stuff..."

Not really putting much hope on this, though.

Shades of Suikoden.

Not sure I like it, why bother putting any effort into the game unless you are playing NG+ ?

[panamakira]

7 ENDINGS!!!!! 7 endings and we might get 7 variations of Shep getting screwed by Reapers. Just sayin~

Why would I want to see 7 different ways Shep could die. They could've saved themselves the work and just go with the one "realistic" option a story like this could go with.

Why put the illusion of choice in a game like this when that might not be the case. This is not a book or a movie, I thought this was a game with the option of multiple endings.

LOL~ Otherwise ladies and gentlemen, what is the point of 7 endings?!!!! /end rant

In case you're wondering, keyword: 7.

Ok, I feel better now, I needed to get that off my chest. I'm still excited for the game even though I've heard vague references of like 4 endings.

[Ryzaki]

Mims wrote...

There is no perfect ending, unless it is hidden or to be patched in. The guy checked the files.

That really bummed me out.

[Texhnolyze101]

Apparently you get an alternate ending with NG+

[The Elder King]

Ryzaki wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I agree, but not for the characters's fate in the endings/epilogue.

Actually I'd argue that was the most unrealistic of it all. You need a certain population group for that to be a viable plan. And the Normandy's crew isn't that large.

Oh yes, forgot about that part, it wasn't really realistic. Though there are somethings that I'd rate more unrealistic.

[ARTHURIUSS]

magnuskn wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Petulant little kid.

I see we are down to insulting people who don't share your opinion.

Juromaro wrote...

"Ah Yes, the I will stop buying if you don't cater to me club"....ah we have dismissed those claims.

Go
ahead don't buy the game, don't buy any more Bioware products
ever....The people who have played the game were satisfied with the
endings.....the people who haven't however are the ones sitting here in
this thread crying because of what they read in a Leaked script, or
someone datamining something.

<shrug> I bought DA2. I bought SWTOR. I already have paid for ME3. BioWare got my money until now, but they have lost my trust and thusly have lost a costumer.

If you don't like me telling why I will not subsidize continued FU's to their own fanbase, stop reading my posts.

Yep..and let's jump to conclusions without even having played the game.
Someone reveals the ending and your all up in arms over it without even understanding the context and how everything comes together.

I haven't played the game myself so I really can't say if the endings's good or bad but know this that of the two people we know who have actually played the game, thaey have been nothing but complimentary of the game and it's ending and how satisfying it felt.

I think I'll leave it at that.

[dreman9999]

magnuskn wrote...

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

I read the endings and... yikes, no jokes, that's hella bleak stuff right there. The fate of the galaxy goes from bad to relatively good, but Shepard and crew get monumentally screwed up pretty much no matter what.

That said, apparently the guide mentions a ''Perfect Ending'' no one knows about if you do a NG+. So the hopes of an happy ending aren't completely gone.

Look, if there is a "Perfect Ending" with another playthrough, I'll take everything I said back. Because then BioWare did indeed realize that "maybe we should include a hard work option for the people who don't like all this bleak stuff..."

Not really putting much hope on this, though.

With a statment like this ....I really show that probelm everyone is having with it is just fanservice.

[Mims]

I'm sorry :[

Honestly, I would accept the bad endings except I know where this is headed. Purchase the story DLC=final DLC alters ending.

Either that, or its an ultimate troll to keep it secret, knowing that it would be inevitably leaked. But I doubt that, since that would be insane.

[SyyRaaaN]

I haven't read the endings yet... but from what i read here it seems awesome tbh. There must be sacrifice. My first run in ME2 was still my best run since i lost squadmates, i actually got sad. I honestly felt, "**** no, i lost Mordin, god damn it". It was emotional.

As long as ME3 makes the same buildup for an emotional ending it will be great. But the risk is, ofcourse, that they build up to an ending we don't care about... but thats to early to tell. Also, the ending is so dependent of context, and the build up that its impossible to discuss it without the entire story available...

[Ryzaki]

hhh89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I agree, but not for the characters's fate in the endings/epilogue.

Actually I'd argue that was the most unrealistic of it all. You need a certain population group for that to be a viable plan. And the Normandy's crew isn't that large.

Oh yes, forgot about that part, it wasn't really realistic. Though there are somethings that I'd rate more unrealistic.

Like the space magic transformations? 

[OdanUrr]

panamakira wrote...

7 ENDINGS!!!!! 7 endings and we might get 7 variations of Shep getting screwed by Reapers. Just sayin~

Why would I want to see 7 different ways Shep could die.

Stabbed, shot, poisoned, electrocuted, dismembered, burnt to a crisp, chopped into little pieces... the possibilities are endless.

[Han Shot First]

magnuskn wrote...

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

I read the endings and... yikes, no jokes, that's hella bleak stuff right there. The fate of the galaxy goes from bad to relatively good, but Shepard and crew get monumentally screwed up pretty much no matter what.

That said, apparently the guide mentions a ''Perfect Ending'' no one knows about if you do a NG+. So the hopes of an happy ending aren't completely gone.

Look, if there is a "Perfect Ending" with another playthrough, I'll take everything I said back. Because then BioWare did indeed realize that "maybe we should include a hard work option for the people who don't like all this bleak stuff..."

Not really putting much hope on this, though.

I disagree.

I don't think there should be a 'perfect' ending where everyone lives. All that does is undercut a good story by making the other endings less desirable, because they'd only occur when Shepard makes tactical or strategic blunders. Virmire was a great emotional moment of the series (except of course for people who hated either Ashley or Kaidan) because no matter what Shepard does, he can't save everyone. That scene wouldn't have had anywhere near the same emotional impact if Ashley or Kaidan only died if Shepard was a bumbling incompetent not fit to lead a girl scout troop, let alone a squad of highly trained operatives.

Having a perfect ending in ME2 undercut the Suicide Mission as well, because Shepard only lost people when he made tactical or strategic blunders.

Thankfully it sounds like Bioware has not made the same mistake with the ending of ME3. Also, an an ending is an unhappy one if Shepard saves the galaxy, even if his entire team wipes.

I'd only be open to an 'everyone lives' ending if it is not the most desirable ending as far as the fate of the galaxy goes. A 'everyone lives' ending might work if it was achieved only when the player was unwilling to take risks with his own team, and the galaxy suffers more death and destruction because of it.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 février 2012 - 03:50 .

[dreman9999]

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Ofc ourse it's not 100% realist. But the context of servive a warwith a race that can do all of what the reapers can do is unrealistic.

The problem is not you getting 7+ lousy endings....You just want an unrealistic few.  And I don't see how that would possible without butching the context of the game.

...

I don't know the ending...I'm guess based on the context you people are using.

[Elvis_Mazur]

senorfuzzylips wrote...

Well, OP asked about import bugs, and there does seem to be an issue with importing ME1 faces, which is to say faces without facecodes aren't importing and have to be remade.

What! How dare you, Bioware!!

[Ryzaki]

dreman9999 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Ofc ourse it's not 100% realist. But the context of servive a warwith a race that can do all of what the reapers can do is unrealistic.

The problem is not you getting 7+ lousy endings....You just want an unrealistic few.  And I don't see how that would possible without butching the context of the game.

...

I don't know the ending...I'm guess based on the context you people are using.

So you're trying to argue something is closer to realistic than something else. When you don't know wtf you're talking about? 

Protip: It's a good idea to learn what you're arguing if you're arguing for it.

M ending is far more unrealistic than a moderately happy D ending where Shep is reunited with the crew of the Normandy could ever be. M ending has no basis in reality either.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 03:53 .

[AkiKishi]

SyyRaaaN wrote...

I haven't read the endings yet... but from what i read here it seems awesome tbh. There must be sacrifice. My first run in ME2 was still my best run since i lost squadmates, i actually got sad. I honestly felt, "**** no, i lost Mordin, god damn it". It was emotional.

As long as ME3 makes the same buildup for an emotional ending it will be great. But the risk is, ofcourse, that they build up to an ending we don't care about... but thats to early to tell. Also, the ending is so dependent of context, and the build up that its impossible to discuss it without the entire story available...

I'd be inclined to agree with that. However ME2 gave you the option to avoid it. Some people prefer it that way, both can be happy.

[magnuskn]

Juromaro wrote...

I don't mind you telling people your not going to pay Bioware anymore, that's on you. But saying your effectivly going to boycott Bioware unless they cater to your group is where I will comment ^_- besides Bioware hasn't given the FU to their own fanbase. Just people who were expecting a candy coated happy ending.

Not really seeing why explaining in detail why I won't buy more BioWare games is bad. Certainly better than spouting tired memes like "pre-order cancelled!"

And, hey, if you think that BioWare wants to lose the part of their costumer base which buys their games because they want their avatars to have happy endings... maybe you are right! I'll be interested to see how that works out in the long term. I guess EA will leave them their autonomy even if the cut their sales down by half.

[The Elder King]

Ryzaki wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
I agree, but not for the characters's fate in the endings/epilogue.

Actually I'd argue that was the most unrealistic of it all. You need a certain population group for that to be a viable plan. And the Normandy's crew isn't that large.

Oh yes, forgot about that part, it wasn't really realistic. Though there are somethings that I'd rate more unrealistic.

Like the space magic transformations? 

Yes, or the Reaper's motivation. Or the final stage of the game.