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[Kanmuru]

Its fascinating how the guy who actually played the ending loved it (even tho he wanted it to be happier), but the people who just have spoilers are trowing a hissy fit

[Ryzaki]

hhh89 wrote...
Yes, or the Reaper's motivation. Or the final stage of the game.

I could actually let the Reaper's motivation slide because hey they're machines and their programmers could've been morons. But yeah the rest is kind of =/

[Darth Malice113]

Mmmm, spacemagic.

[Femlob]

Kanmuru wrote...

Its fascinating how the guy who actually played the ending loved it (even tho he wanted it to be happier), but the people who just have spoilers are trowing a hissy fit

It is, isn't it?

Then again, the guy who played the ending is obviously a BioDrone. Obviously.

Modifié par Femlob, 28 février 2012 - 03:52 .

[AlphaJarmel]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Apparently you get an alternate ending with NG+

This is false.  He went through the hard files and there are no alternate endings.  

[Ryzaki]

Femlob wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Its fascinating how the guy who actually played the ending loved it (even tho he wanted it to be happier), but the people who just have spoilers are trowing a hissy fit

It is, isn't it?

Then again, the guy who played the ending is obviously a BioDrone. Obviously.

Or you know he could've been one of those guys that don't mind a downer ending for the protagonist but highly hopeful for the rest of the galaxy.

Could be that too.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 03:53 .

[panamakira]

OdanUrr wrote...

panamakira wrote...

7 ENDINGS!!!!! 7 endings and we might get 7 variations of Shep getting screwed by Reapers. Just sayin~

Why would I want to see 7 different ways Shep could die.

Stabbed, shot, poisoned, electrocuted, dismembered, burnt to a crisp, chopped into little pieces... the possibilities are endless.

LMAO~ I actually wouldn't mind them including a reasonably positive ending but we had to like work really hard to get it. That would make the experience more satisfying. (and that would vary from player to player.)

You forget the option where I BURN my copy to ashes, EVERYONE definetely dies in that one. /I kid, I kid~

I'll feed my tears to Bioware. You forget they feed off those~ 

[silentspec111]

Juromaro wrote...

silentspec111 wrote...

this thread reminds me of the time the DA2 story got leaked...there were people there too who defended the storyline and moral choices quoting them to be "believable" or having correct ending to a mage templer conflict etc etc....then ofcourse a few weeks later the game came out and the rest is history

I still have DA2 installed and I play it every weekend. The only problems I had with DA2 was the repeat dungeon designs.

yeah those repeat dungeons bugged me too <_<

btw dont get me wrong i dont hate the current endings. All i am sayin is that bioware could have avoided the impending s***storm if they gave us another extra choice for a little bit less of a dark ending....where shep maybe reuintes with his stranded crew...while keeping the story miles away from the standard "lives happily ever after" which i also agree would have been a silly ending for a galactic war...

Modifié par silentspec111, 28 février 2012 - 03:56 .

[magnuskn]

ARTHURIUSS wrote...

Yep..and let's jump to conclusions without even having played the game.
Someone reveals the ending and your all up in arms over it without even understanding the context and how everything comes together.

I haven't played the game myself so I really can't say if the endings's good or bad but know this that of the two people we know who have actually played the game, thaey have been nothing but complimentary of the game and it's ending and how satisfying it felt.

I think I'll leave it at that.

I've read what those endings entail. I disagree with them on the fundamental level that they all screw Shepard over, which is not how I want to end this story. If you disagree, then you can be happy, because this story caters to you.

However, I think asking for one option where people who play this game for their Shepards story is not too much to ask.

[Femlob]

Ryzaki wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Its fascinating how the guy who actually played the ending loved it (even tho he wanted it to be happier), but the people who just have spoilers are trowing a hissy fit

It is, isn't it?

Then again, the guy who played the ending is obviously a BioDrone. Obviously.

Or you know he could've been one of those guys that don't mind a downer ending for the protagonist but highly hopeful for the rest of the galaxy.

Could be that too.

You mean like a run-of-the-mill customer who isn't completely submerged in the world of ME and its characters?

Impossible.

[SyyRaaaN]

BobSmith101 wrote...

SyyRaaaN wrote...

I haven't read the endings yet... but from what i read here it seems awesome tbh. There must be sacrifice. My first run in ME2 was still my best run since i lost squadmates, i actually got sad. I honestly felt, "**** no, i lost Mordin, god damn it". It was emotional.

As long as ME3 makes the same buildup for an emotional ending it will be great. But the risk is, ofcourse, that they build up to an ending we don't care about... but thats to early to tell. Also, the ending is so dependent of context, and the build up that its impossible to discuss it without the entire story available...

I'd be inclined to agree with that. However ME2 gave you the option to avoid it. Some people prefer it that way, both can be happy.

Yea, thats true. But i bet that the option for a perfect ending will be in a DLC. For sure ^^.

[Leyla87]

Han Shot First wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

I read the endings and... yikes, no jokes, that's hella bleak stuff right there. The fate of the galaxy goes from bad to relatively good, but Shepard and crew get monumentally screwed up pretty much no matter what.

That said, apparently the guide mentions a ''Perfect Ending'' no one knows about if you do a NG+. So the hopes of an happy ending aren't completely gone.

Look, if there is a "Perfect Ending" with another playthrough, I'll take everything I said back. Because then BioWare did indeed realize that "maybe we should include a hard work option for the people who don't like all this bleak stuff..."

Not really putting much hope on this, though.

I disagree.

I don't think there should be a 'perfect' ending where everyone lives. All that does is undercut a good story by making the other endings less desirable, because they'd only occur when Shepard makes tactical or strategic blunders. Virmire was a great emotional moment of the series (except of course for people who hated either Ashley or Kaidan) because no matter what Shepard does, he can't save everyone. That scene wouldn't have had anywhere near the same emotional impact if Ashley or Kaidan only died if Shepard was a bumbling incompetent not fit to lead a girl scout troop, let alone a squad of highly trained operatives.

Having a perfect ending in ME2 undercut the Suicide Mission as well, because Shepard only lost people when he made tactical or strategic blunders.

Thankfully it sounds like Bioware has not made the same mistake with the ending of ME3. Also, an an ending is an unhappy one if Shepard saves the galaxy, even if his entire team wipes.

I agree completely.

My first reaction, when hearing about what would happen, was anger. But the fact that it illicited such a response out of me (without even seeing it in real time) is an awesome thing. I loved the scene in Virmire just as I enjoyed the scene in DA2 with Leandra dying and whatnot. If Bioware can get a rise out of people (for better of worse) through their storytelling, then they've done a job well done in my opinion.

That's not to say that if, by some higher power (DLC), they release a somewhat happier ending that I won't play through it. I enjoy sugar coated happy endings as much as the next person, but I can certainly appreciate what they've done with ME3.

[Ryzaki]

Femlob wrote...
You mean like a run-of-the-mill customer who isn't completely submerged in the world of ME and its characters?

Impossible.

Very possible. I however won't be one of them. To me the ending is crap.

Not only crap but plot hole ridden stupid crap.

[magnuskn]

dreman9999 wrote...

With a statment like this ....I really show that probelm everyone is having with it is just fanservice.

Which is a problem, why? "Fanservice" is this meaningless catchphrase, which means "Stuff I disagree with, but which other people like".

Modifié par magnuskn, 28 février 2012 - 03:57 .

[dreman9999]

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Ofc ourse it's not 100% realist. But the context of servive a warwith a race that can do all of what the reapers can do is unrealistic.

The problem is not you getting 7+ lousy endings....You just want an unrealistic few.  And I don't see how that would possible without butching the context of the game.

...

I don't know the ending...I'm guess based on the context you people are using.

So you're trying to argue something is closer to realistic than something else. When you don't know wtf you're talking about? 

Protip: It's a good idea to learn what you're arguing if you're arguing for it.

M ending is far more unrealistic than a moderately happy D ending where Shep is reunited with the crew of the Normandy could ever be. M ending has no basis in reality either.

BS, if if it was that, people would be crying about it being poorly written not that Shepard died.

[AkiKishi]

SyyRaaaN wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

SyyRaaaN wrote...

I haven't read the endings yet... but from what i read here it seems awesome tbh. There must be sacrifice. My first run in ME2 was still my best run since i lost squadmates, i actually got sad. I honestly felt, "**** no, i lost Mordin, god damn it". It was emotional.

As long as ME3 makes the same buildup for an emotional ending it will be great. But the risk is, ofcourse, that they build up to an ending we don't care about... but thats to early to tell. Also, the ending is so dependent of context, and the build up that its impossible to discuss it without the entire story available...

I'd be inclined to agree with that. However ME2 gave you the option to avoid it. Some people prefer it that way, both can be happy.

Yea, thats true. But i bet that the option for a perfect ending will be in a DLC. For sure ^^.

That one occured to me on I think it was page 2.

[The Elder King]

Ryzaki wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
Yes, or the Reaper's motivation. Or the final stage of the game.

I could actually let the Reaper's motivation slide because hey they're machines and their programmers could've been morons. But yeah the rest is kind of =/

But they're in part organics. Does this mean that all those melted organics were moron?

Femlob wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Its
fascinating how the guy who actually played the ending loved it (even
tho he wanted it to be happier), but the people who just have spoilers
are trowing a hissy fit

It is, isn't it?

Then again, the guy who played the ending is obviously a BioDrone. Obviously.

People like different things. I like both happy ending and bittersweet endings, and I'm fine with screwed-up endings, so I'm fine with what happens in ME3. But you can't expect people that like one type of endings to be satisfied with a type of ending that they hate.

[magnuskn]

Femlob wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Its fascinating how the guy who actually played the ending loved it (even tho he wanted it to be happier), but the people who just have spoilers are trowing a hissy fit

It is, isn't it?

Then again, the guy who played the ending is obviously a BioDrone. Obviously.

Strawman, meet Femlob.

What Ryzaki said.

[AllThatJazz]

BobSmith101 wrote...

SyyRaaaN wrote...

I haven't read the endings yet... but from what i read here it seems awesome tbh. There must be sacrifice. My first run in ME2 was still my best run since i lost squadmates, i actually got sad. I honestly felt, "**** no, i lost Mordin, god damn it". It was emotional.

As long as ME3 makes the same buildup for an emotional ending it will be great. But the risk is, ofcourse, that they build up to an ending we don't care about... but thats to early to tell. Also, the ending is so dependent of context, and the build up that its impossible to discuss it without the entire story available...

I'd be inclined to agree with that. However ME2 gave you the option to avoid it. Some people prefer it that way, both can be happy.

Indeed. I like sad endings, dark endings endings, whatever you want to call them. And actually, may well be quite satisfied with the way ME3 ends. But you'd imagine that in SEVEN endings, there would be room for one that isn't sad, dark  or outright grim, to cater for those who want just a little bittersweet, or even *gasp* happy ending in their fictional space opera. Otherwise, why have seven in the first place? Just have one ending, and spend all that cutscene money on more side missions. <_<

[The Elder King]

dreman9999 wrote...

BS, if if it was that, people would be crying about it being poorly written not that Shepard died.

It depends if you like the thing that happen in that ending.

[Elvis_Mazur]

Well, about the endings, I am glad there is no happy one. I am preparing to make the Reapers win in every playthrough; I just want my story to make sense. But, I understand why people are angry at that. However, it's possible Bioware did that because they are planning sequels.

[dreman9999]

Femlob wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Its fascinating how the guy who actually played the ending loved it (even tho he wanted it to be happier), but the people who just have spoilers are trowing a hissy fit

It is, isn't it?

Then again, the guy who played the ending is obviously a BioDrone. Obviously.

Or you know he could've been one of those guys that don't mind a downer ending for the protagonist but highly hopeful for the rest of the galaxy.

Could be that too.

You mean like a run-of-the-mill customer who isn't completely submerged in the world of ME and its characters?

Impossible.

Complaining that the character doesn't live is just fanservice. Just like with Reven in tor. And looking at what they did with Reven in tor with Drew being the head writer of that game....I'm guessing he would done the same to Shepard.

Modifié par dreman9999, 28 février 2012 - 04:01 .

[Femlob]

hhh89 wrote...

People like different things. I like both happy ending and bittersweet endings, and I'm fine with screwed-up endings, so I'm fine with what happens in ME3. But you can't expect people that like one type of endings to be satisfied with a type of ending that they hate.

I'm the last person to expect anything from anyone - I do, however, take issue with the idea that the entire game sucks and that Mac Walters should be beheaded just because it's not their kind of ending.

Modifié par Femlob, 28 février 2012 - 04:01 .

[Ryzaki]

dreman9999 wrote...
BS, if if it was that, people would be crying about it being poorly written not that Shepard died.

If you bother going into the spoiler group yeah we're pretty much saying both. It's poorly written AND Shep died. (Hell the one where shep LIVES is poorly written crap!)

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 04:02 .

[Ryzaki]

hhh89 wrote...

But they're in part organics. Does this mean that all those melted organics were moron?

Yup.