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[Farbautisonn]

T1l wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

T1l wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

I just had a thought

BUY THE HAPPY ENDING DLC.....

ONLY $9.99! BETTER WITH KINECT!

ONLY IN THE NA REGIONS!

ONLY IF YOU PRE-PURCHASE [insert another EA distributed game here]!

(Offer of "happy ending" is subject to writers whim, halfarsed lore in contradictory novels pushed out in a Lucas esque fashion, and ablity to integrate said lore into  MP pew pew).

[AlexXIV]

magnuskn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

From the sound of thing....I just more of a fan service issues.Sounds like it's just not what you expect. It's not a happy ending then.

But then, didn't people complain that the ending of ME2 was too ...glorified?

In ME2, you were given the choice of how good your ending would be. If you wanted a real happy ending, you could get it. If you wanted it to be more tragic, you could get that, too. In little variations down to "total devastation".

In ME3, you can get "totally screwed over", "absolutely screwed over", "really, really screwed over" and "no, we weren't kidding, you are screwed over! Haha, thanks for giving us your money. LOSERS!".

Yeah that's pretty much what I felt about DA2 too. Obviously it is a trend now.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Juromaro wrote...

All I'm going to say is the people who are saying the endings are horrible are trolling you or trying to get a rise out of anyone.

All the endings are a good way to end the Trilogy, some people expected rainbows and unicorns, others just rainbows and smiles. However for a game that is based on Intergalactic war, the endings were very good. However alot will be suprised(that haven't read the spoilers) by the endings.


I for one never pictured my Shepard the way some of you are hoping, All of ME3's endings fit in what Bioware call the End of shepard's story when you think about how a race of galactic killing machines declare war on all organic life.

I, for one, didn't find anything too cheerful about a post-apocalyptic recovery scenario where we lost some friends, but everyone is okay...and ready to try and rebuild.

I'm more upset that we're pretty pigeonholed into screwed, more screwed, and royally screwed. I feel like I don't have control over how any of this ends. I'm screwed any way I slice it.

[Texhnolyze101]

Im still buying the CE but ME3 will just be a one time play through and i won't be importing my shep because im going to write her ending and those ME3 endings can sod off.

[ddv.rsa]

Farbautisonn wrote...

-Well... Looks like Ill be more busy ranting on my blog here than playing the game.

If this is the magnitude of the fall from grace (no pun intended), Bioware will be the fourth  part of the triumvirate of xmas past: Bullfrog, origin and westwood.

Ill buy the game.
Ill make up my own mind.
But after the intro, and the novels the story had better damn well deliver.

Well if this info is true the BSN will erupt in flames and people will rabidly attack Mac Walters. We'll get a lot of LOCKDOWN and END OF LINE, followed a while later by a 'Bioware stands by it's valued employee' statement. Then business will go on as usual as everyone begins to forget the fiasco and anticipates DA3.

[Total Biscuit]

I think the best way you can predict whether the endings are going to upset you or not is to ask yourself this:

Do you play mass effect for Shepards story, the Mass Effect setting, and the NPC characters you interact with and their fates, or are you in it for an epic space opera war story, where the characters are less important than than the big themes.

If it's the first one, and your a fan of, you know, EVERYTHING THAT MAKES MASS EFFECT UNIQUE, then like me, you are so going to be boned by the endings no matter what it's not even funny.

There are no happy endings. If you didn't romance Liara or the VS you choose wrong, and even if you did, THERE ARE NO HAPPY ENDINGS.

It's not even bittersweet, it's just flat out bitter.

The rest of the game is mostly good. Some really bad bits, but mostly good.

But the endings are irrecably atrocious. I'd actually say it makes the game worse than DA2, and retroactively ruins ME1&2.

[T1l]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I'll say this: it's not bad writing. Each ending is very emotionally powerful. They make sense. They tie up all the loose ends.

However, they are all tragic. All of them. Some more so than others

I disagree with you; it's not poignant or tactful. What happened to the Protheans was poignant and tactful, Vigil was testament to that. Then again, I guess that’s a matter of opinion.

Modifié par T1l, 28 février 2012 - 01:24 .

[Guldhun2]

Well, Bioware said the Shepard trilogy of Mass Effect would end with ME3. They weren't lying.

hahaha 

Modifié par Guldhun2, 28 février 2012 - 01:24 .

[Catsith]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...
However, they are all tragic. All of them. Some more so than others

That is awesome. 

[Maike91]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I'll say this: it's not bad writing. Each ending is very emotionally powerful. They make sense. They tie up all the loose ends.

However, they are all tragic. All of them. Some more so than others

That sounds good to me. I really don't like those " And they all lived happily ever after" endings. But that's just my opinion, and I can understand, if people get really pissed if there are only tragic endings.

[AkiKishi]

dreman9999 wrote...

Vergil5 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

I just had a thought

BUY THE HAPPY ENDING DLC.....

I can actually see that happening...

Ok ..that comferms it...It is a fan service issue...... I'm going go with the total BS from fan state of mind  with this thread.

That's just me being flippant as I am occasionally.

The rumour I heard was that you get bad endings regardless of what you do because XXX /YYY was broken and not importing properly or that te GR/Assest calculations could not be met in single player.

Someone was especially narked on what they did to his LI and put it down to data transfer. Now if these endings are written as intended , thats a different matter.

[Armass81]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I'll say this: it's not bad writing. Each ending is very emotionally powerful. They make sense. They tie up all the loose ends.

However, they are all tragic. All of them. Some more so than others

I agree with this. If tragedy and sacrifice means its horrible to some people, then you cant really say anything to that. I happen to like it, mostly. Sometimes the best endings are those where you will lose almost everything but ultimately life goes on. Self sacrifice. Needs of the many over the few, or the one. That kind of stuff.

Modifié par Armass81, 28 février 2012 - 01:35 .

[MJF JD]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

-Well... Looks like Ill be more busy ranting on my blog here than playing the game.

If this is the magnitude of the fall from grace (no pun intended), Bioware will be the fourth  part of the triumvirate of xmas past: Bullfrog, origin and westwood.

Ill buy the game.
Ill make up my own mind.
But after the intro, and the novels the story had better damn well deliver.

Well if this info is true the BSN will erupt in flames and people will rabidly attack Mac Walters. We'll get a lot of LOCKDOWN and END OF LINE, followed a while later by a 'Bioware stands by it's valued employee' statement. Then business will go on as usual as everyone begins to forget the fiasco and anticipates DA3.

dont forget the eventual quote from the doctors saying they learned alot from the reaction of their fans and will be implementing happy endings for all future content.  

All we really want is Shepard and his crew busting out that starship collection of his and running around in circles in a field of sunflowers! GOSH BIOWARE?!?!11

[Daywalker315]

I think a lot of people are pissed or "betrayed" because it's not a good old fashioned American apple pie wholesome type of ending (I have not read the script or spoilers and just speculating). Truth be told, they're at war with a superior enemy. Not everyone is going to survive. Tough choices will be made and some people will suffer no matter what you do. That is the reality of war and PERSONALLY, I'd be pissed if we did get an ending where every single person from the first two games and all the species survived. The likelihood of that is simply unfathomable and it would diminish the overwhelming emotions the Reapers are supposed to instill in us as bad guys.

[andy6915]

I found it... Huh. Well, at least now I know how to get Shepard through ME3 alive... Even if the rest of the party is screwed. But uh... Having my Tali romance spat on is a bit... Irritating.

I predict an after the end DLC like Fallout 3 for this one.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Total Biscuit wrote...

I think the best way you can predict whether the endings are going to upset you or not is to ask yourself this:

Do you play mass effect for Shepards story, the Mass Effect setting, and the NPC characters you interact with and their fates, or are you in it for an epic space opera war story, where the characters are less important than than the big themes.

If it's the first one, and your a fan of, you know, EVERYTHING THAT MAKES MASS EFFECT UNIQUE, then like me, you are so going to be boned by the endings no matter what it's not even funny.

There are no happy endings. If you didn't romance Liara or the VS you choose wrong, and even if you did, THERE ARE NO HAPPY ENDINGS.

It's not even bittersweet, it's just flat out bitter.

The rest of the game is mostly good. Some really bad bits, but mostly good.

But the endings are irrecably atrocious. I'd actually say it makes the game worse than DA2, and retroactively ruins ME1&2.

I thought choices that actually mattered were what was supposed to make Mass Effect unique?

In any case, I am most pleased with this turn of events. 

[AlexXIV]

Ruin ME2? Honestly, ME2 starts with Shep's death and ends with destroying a Collector base that isn't really important in the big scheme of things and alternatively railroad to a certain issue with a mass relay which puts you out of service. How will you ruin this? That they may ruin ME1 I can see, but ME2? Don't think it's possible.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 28 février 2012 - 01:28 .

[Texhnolyze101]

This also seems like a serious attempt to drive home the fact shepard won't be in ME games anymore. Luckily for me im not interested in future ME games and would rather see a new IP but it won't happen and as a side effect i won't have any bioware games to play for the next few years.

[JediHealerCosmin]

andy69156915 wrote...

I found it... Huh. Well, at least now I know how to get Shepard through ME3 alive... Even if the rest of the party is screwed. But uh... Having my Tali romance spat on is a bit... Irritating.

I predict an after the end DLC like Fallout 3 for this one.

I'm still having trouble believing that thread. Seriously, I'm not believing anything until I play the game.

[noxpanda]

Total Biscuit wrote...

I think the best way you can predict whether the endings are going to upset you or not is to ask yourself this:

Do you play mass effect for Shepards story, the Mass Effect setting, and the NPC characters you interact with and their fates, or are you in it for an epic space opera war story, where the characters are less important than than the big themes.

If it's the first one, and your a fan of, you know, EVERYTHING THAT MAKES MASS EFFECT UNIQUE, then like me, you are so going to be boned by the endings no matter what it's not even funny.

There are no happy endings. If you didn't romance Liara or the VS you choose wrong, and even if you did, THERE ARE NO HAPPY ENDINGS.

It's not even bittersweet, it's just flat out bitter.

The rest of the game is mostly good. Some really bad bits, but mostly good.

But the endings are irrecably atrocious. I'd actually say it makes the game worse than DA2, and retroactively ruins ME1&2.

As a total bioware fangirl all i can say is.... i agree... totally

It actually makes me want to go back and delete every save file i own to save myself the heartbreak and then just use me3 for its mulitplayer aspects, god it makes me sad to even type that


O.T love some of your vids

[Medhia Nox]

Well - if they do have tragic endings - there's a few specific forum names that I'd expect would bring high-praise for Bioware. Now to just watch and see if they rear their miserable heads and speak in favor for what they asked for.

Whatever - sometimes stories are tragic... sometimes stories have good endings. They already told you Shepard and the Reapers are never coming back into the story if they make a ME 4 - so what do people care with how they draw a conclusion?

[Guldhun2]

JediHealerCosmin wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

I found it... Huh. Well, at least now I know how to get Shepard through ME3 alive... Even if the rest of the party is screwed. But uh... Having my Tali romance spat on is a bit... Irritating.

I predict an after the end DLC like Fallout 3 for this one.

I'm still having trouble believing that thread. Seriously, I'm not believing anything until I play the game.

Don't worry. It's true.

[magnuskn]

Total Biscuit wrote...
But the endings are irrecably atrocious. I'd actually say it makes the game worse than DA2, and retroactively ruins ME1&2.

This. I for the world can't understand how a writer cannot get that only offering bad endings will sour fans on the game and even the games before this. I guess they are thinking "Well, we already got their money...".

To which I say: "Yeah, but you very likely won't get it again in the future. Because I can't trust you anymore."

[dreman9999]

magnuskn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

From the sound of thing....I just more of a fan service issues.Sounds like it's just not what you expect. It's not a happy ending then.

But then, didn't people complain that the ending of ME2 was too ...glorified?

In ME2, you were given the choice of how good your ending would be. If you wanted a real happy ending, you could get it. If you wanted it to be more tragic, you could get that, too. In little variations down to "total devastation".

In ME3, you can get "totally screwed over", "absolutely screwed over", "really, really screwed over" and "no, we weren't kidding, you are screwed over! Haha, thanks for giving us your money. LOSERS!".

.......Then it sound like I'm not going to mind.

No one saw this coming with the context of the story.
No one got the meaning from the line from ME1 "Civilisation grow to the apex of there glory, and then fade away."?

If they gave use the happy end, everyone would be complaining about that , too.

[TheComfyCat]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Well - if they do have tragic endings - there's a few specific forum names that I'd expect would bring high-praise for Bioware. Now to just watch and see if they rear their miserable heads and speak in favor for what they asked for.

Whatever - sometimes stories are tragic... sometimes stories have good endings. They already told you Shepard and the Reapers are never coming back into the story if they make a ME 4 - so what do people care with how they draw a conclusion?

Uh, we care that we've been spending two games developing these characters and their relationships, and want this to be acknowledged appropriately. Most people are attached to their Shepards and their LI and want to see a decent ending for them.