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[magnuskn]

Armass81 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I'll say this: it's not bad writing. Each ending is very emotionally powerful. They make sense. They tie up all the loose ends.

However, they are all tragic. All of them. Some more so than others

I agree with this. If tragedy and sacrifice means its horrible to some people, then you cant really say anything to that. I happen to like it, mostly. Sometimes the best endings are those where you will lose almost everything but ultimately life goes on. Self sacrifice. Need of the many over the few, or the one. That kind of stuff.

Dude, options. ME2 had options, down from total happy ending to total devastation. ME3 does not. Choose one of a number of bad endings.

And, seriously, this is still fiction. If I want depressing stories, I can read the frickin' news.

[ddv.rsa]

magnuskn wrote...

Total Biscuit wrote...
But the endings are irrecably atrocious. I'd actually say it makes the game worse than DA2, and retroactively ruins ME1&2.

This. I for the world can't understand how a writer cannot get that only offering bad endings will sour fans on the game and even the games before this. I guess they are thinking "Well, we already got their money...".

To which I say: "Yeah, but you very likely won't get it again in the future. Because I can't trust you anymore."

I don't even want to give them money for this game. Instead of picking up that N7 Edition order I'll keep the money for the Xbox 360 release of the Witcher 2.

[AkiKishi]

magnuskn wrote...

Total Biscuit wrote...
But the endings are irrecably atrocious. I'd actually say it makes the game worse than DA2, and retroactively ruins ME1&2.

This. I for the world can't understand how a writer cannot get that only offering bad endings will sour fans on the game and even the games before this. I guess they are thinking "Well, we already got their money...".

To which I say: "Yeah, but you very likely won't get it again in the future. Because I can't trust you anymore."

I remember the ending to FFX being one of my favourites.You could call that a "bad" ending,but it at the same time it was upbeat.
FFX-2 Had multiple endings depending on how you played and how much you did. The best ending took a 95%+ completetion rate as I recall but it could be done.
Having no good endings just seems to cheapen the role of the gamer.

Anyway if this is not down to technical problems, well looks like it is what it is , accept it or not.

[AlexXIV]

Well I am going to say this.

In face of galactic extintion any ending that doesn't say: 'Reapers win' is a sort of positive ending on the grand scale. Because personal drama is still the lesser evil to general drama.

[T1l]

Total Biscuit wrote...

...retroactively ruins ME1&2.

Sort of. It ruins the Mass Effect francise in the same way Dragon Age 2 ruined Dragon Age. Dragon Age: Origins is still a good game, but I'll be damned if I ever touch another Dragon Age product ever again thanks to the sequel. Likewise, Mass Effect 1 is one of the best games I have ever played and am ever likely to; but after this? No way in hell I'm touching another Bioware product.

$10 Day 1 plot essential DLC? Yeah... no.

[Kanmuru]

Stopp crying you babies, just because you wont get happy endings dosent mean the game sucks...

[Templar Fox]

Yeah, I didn't think it was as bad until I spoiled myself.

IT'S BAD. The "best" ending isn't even remotely near what you think it'd entail. It's absolutely bitter and crap. That's the best ending. The rest of them are only worse.

Also, that's not even including the fact that if you don't romance Liara or the VS, it adds salt into the wound. 
I'm still buying the game, but only to play through it once and to go on the MP.

Sigh.  I now won't be able to play through the first two games without realizing what happens at the end of 3 now. 

Modifié par Templar Fox, 28 février 2012 - 01:39 .

[Fault Girl]

magnuskn wrote...


And, seriously, this is still fiction. If I want depressing stories, I can read the frickin' news.

Pretty much this, life for me is hard enough for the moment.

There should be a choice for a happy ending.

[Kanmuru]

DONT COMPARE THIS WITH THAT PIECE OF CRAP DA2, THIS IS AN ACTUAL ENDING TO THE STORY

[magnuskn]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Anyway if this is not down to technical problems, well looks like it is what it is , accept it or not.

Well, the forums are there to give our feedback. While I can't change what BioWare wrote, I can tell them that it cost them a costumer who bought every one of their games since Baldurs Gate II, including a lot of DLC.

Modifié par magnuskn, 28 février 2012 - 01:40 .

[Arppis]

Kanmuru wrote...

DONT COMPARE THIS WITH THAT PIECE OF CRAP DA2, THIS IS AN ACTUAL ENDING TO THE STORY

Yeah the biggest problem with DA2 ending was the fact that it didn't end and was quickly explained in some vague image and just left there. Hope it doesn't go like that in ME3.

[FluffyScarf]

If you think the ending is bad, wait till you see how the characters are treated...

[Gibb_Shepard]

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 28 février 2012 - 01:43 .

[MJF JD]

to be fair, the one guy who has played some of these endings felt that it really worked for his playthrough and enjoyed it.

[noxpanda]

Vault N7 wrote...

magnuskn wrote...


And, seriously, this is still fiction. If I want depressing stories, I can read the frickin' news.

Pretty much this, life for me is hard enough for the moment.

There should be a choice for a happy ending.

Exactly! I dont mind a playthrough taking twice as long to reach it, i dont mind jumpring through hoops and it being rediculously difficult to reach. I just want a goddam option. Cos atm letting the reapers win is looking like the most attractive ending for my bitter disenchanted mind

[FluffyScarf]

Poor, upset volus panda.

Look at what BW has done.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 28 février 2012 - 01:41 .

[magnuskn]

MJF JD wrote...

to be fair, the one guy who has played some of these endings felt that it really worked for his playthrough and enjoyed it.

People who are into dark endings will love this. People who don't are screwed over. People who get off on other peoples pain will have some good weeks coming up.

[DaJe]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

-Well... Looks like Ill be more busy ranting on my blog here than playing the game.

If this is the magnitude of the fall from grace (no pun intended), Bioware will be the fourth  part of the triumvirate of xmas past: Bullfrog, origin and westwood.

Ill buy the game.
Ill make up my own mind.
But after the intro, and the novels the story had better damn well deliver.

Well if this info is true the BSN will erupt in flames and people will rabidly attack Mac Walters. We'll get a lot of LOCKDOWN and END OF LINE, followed a while later by a 'Bioware stands by it's valued employee' statement. Then business will go on as usual as everyone begins to forget the fiasco and anticipates DA3.

I don't think so. DA2 has killed any of my interest for future Dragon Age products and I'm sure that applies to many others. For me the franchise lived and died with the first and only game, which was great and complete. I'm very sceptical and upset about ME3s direction, despite many great improvements over ME2.

The modding community for the whole Dragon Age franchise has almost completely died down after DA2 was released. I have seen other developers disappoint with sequels and forums turning into ghost towns after the flames died down. Bioware is alienating fans with every step. That is never a good business strategy. If you rise up too fast, carried by arrogance and greed, there is a good chance you fall right back to the ground. When so many people get upset, and not just on BSN, then something must be going wrong.

[AlexXIV]

Arppis wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

DONT COMPARE THIS WITH THAT PIECE OF CRAP DA2, THIS IS AN ACTUAL ENDING TO THE STORY

Yeah the biggest problem with DA2 ending was the fact that it didn't end and was quickly explained in some vague image and just left there. Hope it doesn't go like that in ME3.

It's the middle game of a trilogy. So the open ending does not bother me more than in ME2. What bothered me was that all your choices in the game were ultimately summed up in the last choice. Pick a side. You don't get anything different depending on the 'years' before. Not to mention that during the game itself you have often been given a choice just to get told 'ah well just kidding, you don't really have a choice, move along'.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Hmm. I never thought tragic endings were bad endings. I myself like being emotionally shaken.

I mean, honestly, having only sad endings is imo apt. This is a galactic threat, one of death and destruction. To make an ending all happy and sunflowers would take away from the tone of the threat.

If Bioware have managed to make each ending unique with decent writing, then i'll be happy.

[AkiKishi]

magnuskn wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Anyway if this is not down to technical problems, well looks like it is what it is , accept it or not.

Well, the forums are there to give our feedback. While I can't change what BioWare wrote, I can tell them that it cost them a costumer who bought every one of their games since Baldurs Gate II, including a lot of DLC.

As I said the people I spoke to were putting this down to anything but being the way it really was. That was why I posted the thread because there were so many conflicting things I got to the point where I wanted a straight answer.

[Kanmuru]

Thank you Bioware for this ****storm lol, the only thing better than this will be the reaction for Tali's suicide jump

[MJF JD]

Kanmuru wrote...

Thank you Bioware for this ****storm lol, the only thing better than this will be the reaction for Tali's suicide jump

looks like the spoiler pot is brimming over!

[Total Biscuit]

FluffyScarf wrote...

If you think the ending is bad, wait till you see how the characters are treated...

Yep, and the implied rate of Tali and Garrus is probably the worst ones there...

[AlexXIV]

Kanmuru wrote...

Thank you Bioware for this ****storm lol, the only thing better than this will be the reaction for Tali's suicide jump

I can't say if you are kidding or actually the biggest ass/idiot on the forum.