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dreman9999 wrote...
Again, didn't people complian that getting the good ending in ME2 was too easy and too glorified? You had to go out of your way to get people to die in  ME2. Now peopel are complining about the opposite? It's a war with a race that can wipe races away clean by glacing at them, why wouldn't the ending be guresome?


I don't mind having to work twice or thrice as hard to get a really good ending. But I want the option to have it. Why would I feel motivated to put effort into a game where I know that my character will get screwed over, no matter what I do?

Options, people. They should be there. They aren't. Emo Walters seems to have made sure of that.

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The guy who finished it said the ending satisfied him Alex.

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Honestly BSN... stfu.... You are all bit**ing b/c there is no sunshine and bunnies ending. Well thats a good thing. The best stories are the stories that leave me sad and heartbroken.

Also I know the three choices you get to make at the end. That was in the leaked script. I remember Casey said like a month or two ago that there are 6 "definitive" endings. So I am sure they added 3 extra happier endings in the time that the "early rough draft" script got leaked. They could add new endings when ever the fu*k they want. They dont go by your book and whines BSN.

Modifié par MindoirsSoleSurvivor, 28 février 2012 - 01:54 .


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Total Biscuit wrote...

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Hmm. I never thought tragic endings were bad endings. I myself like being emotionally shaken.

I mean, honestly, having only sad endings is imo apt. This is a galactic threat, one of death and destruction. To make an ending all happy and sunflowers would take away from the tone of the threat.

If Bioware have managed to make each ending unique with decent writing, then i'll be happy.


The endings go past tragic to flat out punishing you for playing. And the endings are all pretty much identical, bar flavouring and which species are temporarily still around and in what state.

The Mass Effect universe as we know it is gone for good no matter what though. 


^This just replay ME1 that get a notebook or use you the notepad on your PC and just write what what happens with your shep and his or her's crew from the ME1 ending and your good ME2 nor 3 required.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

I strongly sugest everyone who dosent want to get spoiled to leave this forums asap, if you dont want spoilers you shouldnt even be reading this tread...

Can you read ******? No spoilers allowed?


This thread is full of implied spoilers already, anyone with basic reading comprehension can guess why the ending is "dissapointing" and "final" or "if i want tragedy i will read the newspaper". 

People want to still make decisions whether they want to buy the game. I for example buy the digital version and still deciding whether preorder, buy later, buy much later or buy never. I want to know how bad it is but not the details.


Downer ending, even if you save the galaxy or start an age of peace and happines, you wont be with girl/guy you love and be happy ever after.

Modifié par Kanmuru, 28 février 2012 - 01:54 .


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Farbautisonn: I get the feeling this is what happens when Bioware listens to the loudest voices on the BSN.

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You can join CDR in her padded room, noxpanda. :devil:

And I'm only enjoying this Farbautisonn, because I had fun playing ME 1 and 2. But knowing now how it all ends, I might as well laugh about its bleakness. Nox and CDR are taking care of the screaming and rocking back and forth part.


Yeah sounds like a plan, so long as i can screach at people occasionally out the tiny window....

Dont suppose youve got a straight jacket handy? Think im gonna need one and chocolate and and... well anything to cheer a girl up a bit!

Damn you bioware!

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Farbautisonn wrote...

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No comment but it's like they set out to ****** off as many people as possible.


-I dont mind tragic, bitter sadistic or vile. If its done right. Hell I enjoyed "The Pitt" and found it just aces because there was no good, only crap, and really crap and even those choises had crap prospects if you dared to think the conclusions through to their logical end.

But somehow I get the destinct feeling that we are way... waay beyond The Pitt.


The Pitt from FO3 ? That was epic.

It's not often I have to pause and really think before chosing an option.

I suppose you could liken it to FO3 but in that case there was only 1 ending having multiple endings and not really having any real difference I don't feel like I need to participate because I'd be wasting my time.

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MindoirsSoleSurvivor wrote...

Honestly BSN... stfu.... You are all bit**ing b/c there is no sunshine and bunnies ending. Well thats a good thing. The best stories are the stories that leave me sad and heartbroken.


Where not you

 /moving on

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Total Biscuit wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Hmm. I never thought tragic endings were bad endings. I myself like being emotionally shaken.

I mean, honestly, having only sad endings is imo apt. This is a galactic threat, one of death and destruction. To make an ending all happy and sunflowers would take away from the tone of the threat.

If Bioware have managed to make each ending unique with decent writing, then i'll be happy.


The endings go past tragic to flat out punishing you for playing. And the endings are all pretty much identical, bar flavouring and which species are temporarily still around and in what state.

The Mass Effect universe as we know it is gone for good no matter what though. 


Are you Total Biscuit/Halibut? As in the actual TB?

Anyway, i'm not opposed to whatever this ending is from what i've heard. It sounds pretty damn original, and from what i was expecting (KOTOR ending), this could be a pleasent surprise.

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@MindoirsSoleSurvivor: Really? You must be a miserable little fellow - I also think you're lying, but that's my prerogative.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

@Total Biscuit: sometimes bad things happen to good people?

It looks like I might be happy with at least one of these endings.


Depends. Does your Shep have any large attachment to the Normandy crew? If not yeah you'll be happy.

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MindoirsSoleSurvivor wrote...

Honestly BSN... stfu.... You are all bit**ing b/c there is no sunshine and bunnies ending. Well thats a good thing. The best stories are the stories that leave me sad and heartbroken.


How lovely that it works for you. And, hey, you will get that in spades. But I guess we people who want better endings can then get screwed over, with nothing for us?

Yeah, great trust-building exercise, BioWare. See if that makes me want to buy more games from you in the future. I hope you guys are high-fiving yourselves for eroding your own fanbase.

Modifié par magnuskn, 28 février 2012 - 01:56 .


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You just want unrealistic happy bunnies and flowers ending, what you actually get is much more sophisticated and real...

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magnuskn wrote...

MindoirsSoleSurvivor wrote...

Honestly BSN... stfu.... You are all bit**ing b/c there is no sunshine and bunnies ending. Well thats a good thing. The best stories are the stories that leave me sad and heartbroken.


How lovely that works for you. And, hey, you will get that in spades. But I guess we people who want better endings can then get screwed over, with nothing for us?

Yeah, great trust-building exercise, BioWare. See if that makes me want to buy more games from you in the future. I hope you guys are high-fiving yourselves for eroding your own fanbase.



2 games of these "Better Endings', yet you and everyone else is saying your getting screwed? How else would you end a trilogy about genocidal machines that bring galactic war to your doorstep  besides a "happily ever after" ending?

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MindoirsSoleSurvivor wrote...

Honestly BSN... stfu.... You are all bit**ing b/c there is no sunshine and bunnies ending. Well thats a good thing. The best stories are the stories that leave me sad and heartbroken.


Where not you

 /moving on


When most people saw that boy die at the end of the Earth demo, I am sure it left a sad but great note on many people. When I played the suicide mission, having everyone alive was not anywhere as good as an ending as having some people die. You need everything perfect. All the people who played the actualy game said they liked the ending. All you people who are just speculating on the leak are jumping to the conclusion that they will be bad. Well let me tell you something. Its all about presentation of the ending which make them good or not, and I can tell you that they are probably presented well, becuase the people who actually "played" the game liked their ending.

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Yeah honeslty, if RPGs are not good for giving people the ending they want/deserve, what are they good for?

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@Ryzaki: The current Normandy crew? Then yeah - I'll probably be pretty happy.

But honestly - I don't mind a story where something good is taken from the chief Protagonist. Even if it is an RPG... I seriously don't mind it at all.

Now - a certain other Bioware game railroaded me throughout the entire story... and I just watched events unfold with pure hatred in my mind for that game.

But one event (even if that event is the conclusion) - even if I have a love interest - can be engaging and interesting. *shrugs*

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 28 février 2012 - 01:59 .


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Juromaro wrote...

magnuskn wrote...

MindoirsSoleSurvivor wrote...

Honestly BSN... stfu.... You are all bit**ing b/c there is no sunshine and bunnies ending. Well thats a good thing. The best stories are the stories that leave me sad and heartbroken.


How lovely that works for you. And, hey, you will get that in spades. But I guess we people who want better endings can then get screwed over, with nothing for us?

Yeah, great trust-building exercise, BioWare. See if that makes me want to buy more games from you in the future. I hope you guys are high-fiving yourselves for eroding your own fanbase.



2 games of these "Better Endings', yet you and everyone else is saying your getting screwed? How else would you end a trilogy about genocidal machines that bring galactic war to your doorstep  besides a "happily ever after" ending?


Unless its a hollywood quality ending with eshplosions and a dramatic kiss at the end the simpletons wont be happy

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Yeah, I didn't think it was as bad until I spoiled myself.

IT'S BAD. The "best" ending isn't even remotely near what you think it'd entail. It's absolutely bitter and crap. That's the best ending. The rest of them are only worse.

Also, that's not even including the fact that if you don't romance Liara or the VS, it adds salt into the wound. 
I'm still buying the game, but only to play through it once and to go on the MP.

Sigh.  I now won't be able to play through the first two games without realizing what happens at the end of 3 now. 

Again, didn't people complian that getting the good ending in ME2 was too easy and too glorified? You had to go out of your way to get people to die in  ME2. Now peopel are complining about the opposite? It's a war with a race that can wipe races away clean by glacing at them, why wouldn't the ending be guresome?


No one complained that there was a good ending though. There are no good endings at all in 3, no matter what you do.

And I wish people would stop using 'it's a war!' to excuse unavoidable death. Not everyone dies in wars. Not even heroes always die. Besides which, this game is supposed to give us choices, and there isn't one for a happy ending, which is the endings 96% of humans prefer.

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MindoirsSoleSurvivor wrote...

Honestly BSN... stfu.... You are all bit**ing b/c there is no sunshine and bunnies ending. Well thats a good thing. The best stories are the stories that leave me sad and heartbroken.

Also I know the three choices you get to make at the end. That was in the leaked script. I remember Casey said like a month or two ago that there are 6 "definitive" endings. So I am sure they added 3 extra happier endings in the time that the "early rough draft" script got leaked. They could add new endings when ever the fu*k they want. They dont go by your book and whines BSN.


The endings have been data mined and people already also have the strategy guide.  There's no endings besides the 6 and one you get on NG+. 

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It is about choice though. Not about just having all bittersweet endings, there should be an option for those you want rainbows and bunnies and for those who want gloom and doom.

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Yeah honeslty, if RPGs are not good for giving people the ending they want/deserve, what are they good for?


Why should anyone get the ending they want <_

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@Ryzaki: The current Normandy crew? Then yeah - I'll probably be pretty happy.

But honestly - I don't mind a story where something good is taken from the chief Protagonist. Even if it is an RPG... I seriously don't mind it at all.

Now - a certain other Bioware game railroaded me throughout the entire story... and I just watched events unfold with pure hatred in my mind for that game.

But one event (even if that event is the conclusion) - even if I have a love interest - can be engaging and interesting. *shrugs*


Lucky for you. My Shep just meets his LI (Steve) for this crap to happen. <_<

I didn't find it interesting. Just annoying and stupid.

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And what 'happy' ending were people expecting? Reaper off switch? Fleet is victorious and civilizations rebuild, Shepard has a long happy life with Tali? I understand that people have become attached to their Shepard and the crew and allies, but you should have known the direction this series was talking when they frickin' killed Shepard in the first five minutes of ME2, and made the entire game about a SUICIDE mission that would most likely result in main characters dying.