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#25001
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1000! Drinks on the citadel for everyone......oh wait....never mind

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People4Peace wrote...


"She" by the way. Though it was my mistake because I was thinking EMS, not TMS.

Just checked my last save:
TMS: 7107
EMS: 6893 (Still damn close)
Galactic readiness: 97% (since I haven't played since last night but it was 100/99% making the rest higher)





Kk see that means that if you had not done any Multiplayer your EMS would have been : 3554.  
You need 4000 if you can save Anderson and 5000 if you cant.

So far to get those numbers the only way I have found is to have Multiplayer, there is no known way to get them without it right now.

#25003
zarnk567

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Grats everyone. Hold the line

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BIO18 wrote...

Computim wrote...

Just wanted to say how amazed, proud, and excited I am to be part of something like this. I ended the game in a bitter rage, and you've all given me hope, charity, and laughs for the past few days.

Thanks again everyone :D


Epic 1000th comment GG


25,000'th comment, actually.

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TamiBx wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

BIO18 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

Yeah I did too. I think I got into the 5000 or 6000s. But with multiplayer I got 7000+ and 100% galactic readiness which some players forget about...it does matter!


Wait, what? Are you saying you got over 5000EMS (not TMS, but EMS) without ever touching multiplayer?! :blink:



Na he is either not telling the truth or he sucks at math.
If he had 7000+ ems with 100%galactic readiness it means he would have had around 3500 ems without MP


"She" by the way. Though it was my mistake because I was thinking EMS, not TMS.

Just checked my last save:
TMS: 7107
EMS: 6893 (Still damn close)
Galactic readiness: 97% (since I haven't played since last night but it was 100/99% making the rest higher)



Oh, okay. That's fine. I'm just trying to find someone who achieved that without touching multiplayer, like Bioware promised that was possible...then again, Bioware promised us many things...:crying:


If you do find someone that pulled it off, let me know. I'd be very interested in how as well.

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*bump for the newcomers*

Pardon the wall of text, but here is my attempt to collate all the news that talks about what is currently happening. I've been trying to read all the posts/links/news that has been shown on the thread and I think this will help newcomers catch up on what is happening. I want this to be an impartial list of all the links (both supporters and debunkers), so if anyone finds any more news please pm me and I will gladly edit/update the list as it grows. I do not take credit for all the links, they have all been from other fans posting their finds/ making the fb page/images/threads/polls/charity.

Most of all, we do not and should not condone any attacks on EA or Bioware. I am politely voicing my opinion that the ending is lacking compared to what has been promised, full of plotholes and inconsistency. I do not ask for a "Happy Ending", just an ending that makes sense and provides closure.


***SPOILERS***  You have been warned





About the argument "If you read a book/see a movie and don't like how it ends, do you demand that the author rewrites it?"

As mentioned earlier, "Comparing INTERACTIVE GAMES to books/movies which are practically set in stone?"
also, look up Mass Effect Deception.



About DLC adding a different ending:

Bethesda released Broken Steel DLC which picks up after the main character "dies" at the end of the main storyline.
http://en.wikipedia....ns#Broken_Steel



About rewriting a story:

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle "resurrects" Sherlock Holmes due to public outcry.
http://en.wikipedia....hur_Conan_Doyle



Articles that mentioned issues that were proposed/promised/changed:

http://www.strategyi...uests-neglected

http://www.ign.com/b...ilers.250066288

These two youtube uploads are extended clips of the dialouge between Shepard and Anderson before meeting the Catalyst:
FemShep:

MaleShep:



*I took out the category lists because I dont feel I have the right to classify each article, that is for you to decide*


http://www.ign.com/v...3-opinion-video

penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/why-the-ending-of-mass-effect-3-was-satifying-and-worthy-of-the-series-mass

http://www.xbox360ac..._medium=twitter

http://arstechnica.c...ory-control.ars

http://www.computera...but-inevitable/

http://www.manaobscu...ect-3s-mistake/

http://manatank.com/...y-spoiler-free/

http://www.play-mag....-ending-sucked/

http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/

http://www.forbes.co...-mass-effect-3/

http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/

http://www.gamerevol...change-it-11639

www.dealspwn.com/mass-effect-3-review-reaping-sow-96051

http://www.escapistm...t-3-The-Process

http://robotgeek.co....ect-3-backlash/

http://www.forbes.co...ood-business/2/

http://www.gamefront...s-to-gain-steam

http://www.g4tv.com/...sslers-soapbox/

http://www.webpronew...ampaign-2012-03

http://www.1up.com/n...s-mass-effect-3



Retake ME 3:

http://www.vg247.com...ffect-3-ending/

http://www.forbes.co...ffect-3-ending/

http://www.g4tv.com/...ffect-3-ending/

http://www.ingame.ms...r-ending-411424

http://www.computera...ioware-blow-it/



Report In People!!:
http://social.biowar...index/9762840/1


Petition:

http://www.change.or...tes-of-the-game



Survey / Umfrage / Enquête:
http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

Topics / Themen / Sujets:
ENG http://social.biowar...5/index/9512916
GER http://social.biowar...1/index/9688547
FRA http://social.biowar...9/index/9747320
POL http://social.biowar...7/index/9695107

Group / Gruppe / Groupe:
http://social.bioware.com/group/7058/

Support Signatur: (put this between [ IMG ] [ /IMG ] without free space)
EU http://i748.photobuc...5/eurofleet.jpg
UK http://i748.photobuc...ect/ukfleet.jpg
GER http://img405.images...ermanfleet1.jpg
USA http://i748.photobuc...icanfleet-1.jpg
RUS http://i748.photobuc...ussianfleet.jpg
CAN http://img.photobuck...nadianfleet.jpg

Retake Mass Effect Childs Play charity Drive:
http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play



HOLD THE LINE!!!

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#25008
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soske aizen wrote...

guys dont post random **** just to get to 1000 plz it can get us shut down


x2!

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#25009
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Now all EA servers will fall :D
1000+ pages :D

#25010
KHReborn

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well done people. Keep it up and hold the line!

With the help of some space magic :wizard:

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Hiho

I haven't read the 996 pages of this thread so excuse me if i fall a little bit off the line with this. I just want to share my opinion about the endings. If you dont want to hear any more of this just stop reading here ^^.

The point i want to mention ist that there is no poissibility at all to help Shepard to get a happy end. I know many people might say: "Happy ends are just mainstream we dont need this." But when i play a game like Mass Effect i want at least the possibility to bring the story to an good end. I dont mind that the story CAN have a bad outcome. But in the moment i see no chance for a good one, i only have the choise between bad, worse and worst.
The ending should at least motivate me to play the game again. But since i saw it i havent even played Mass Effect 3 a single time. And i wont play it again since we dont have another option to end the story.
Its just the case that i am a type of player, who wants to have at least a litte happyness for the character (Shepard) with whom i identfied for over 100 hours of gametime.

Enough whining. I just want to say that i enjoyed most parts of the game. There are many things i liked about it but the ending options just destroyed the game for me.

Excuse my bad english - its not my mother tongue - but i think if this post has any chance, that a BW employee will ever read this, it will be here at english forum and not in the german one.

Greetings

#25012
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Cossack72 wrote...

1000 pages.

I am proud to have held the line this long with you guys.

Here's to 1000 more.


bull ****. this topic needs to die, 

and yet

the only spear worthy of killing it

will be bioware opening their guddamn mouths on the issue.

#25013
DarkSpider88

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1000 pages... all I can say is wow. Hold the Line!

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DJ Shepard wrote...

1000! Drinks on the citadel for everyone......oh wait....never mind

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#25015
VampireCommando

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1000 pages in such a short time, and its growing faster and faster, there is no way BW and EA can ignore us now, even a response would be welcomed.

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I haven't made myself vocal in this matter yet. As with many of our colleagues hereh, I feel downright sad when I watched the outro. The Normandy scene, the tail shot and the melodic building up felt wrong yet well-executed to me.

It isn't a matter of how they executed the outros for Mass Effect 3, they were well done.

Only the info in them, the message they convey, and the feelings we all share with our companions that fail to process. They fail to give us the message that our player characterds, our Shepards did it.

1000+

I will make myself fully commited to this cause. If we stay HONEST, CIVIL and NUANCED enough with our opinions and motives. I'm sure we can accomplish what we want.

I will hold the line.

#25017
People4Peace

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TamiBx wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

BIO18 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

Yeah I did too. I think I got into the 5000 or 6000s. But with multiplayer I got 7000+ and 100% galactic readiness which some players forget about...it does matter!


Wait, what? Are you saying you got over 5000EMS (not TMS, but EMS) without ever touching multiplayer?! :blink:



Na he is either not telling the truth or he sucks at math.
If he had 7000+ ems with 100%galactic readiness it means he would have had around 3500 ems without MP


"She" by the way. Though it was my mistake because I was thinking EMS, not TMS.

Just checked my last save:
TMS: 7107
EMS: 6893 (Still damn close)
Galactic readiness: 97% (since I haven't played since last night but it was 100/99% making the rest higher)



Oh, okay. That's fine. I'm just trying to find someone who achieved that without touching multiplayer, like Bioware promised that was possible...then again, Bioware promised us many things...:crying:


Yeah sadly I think people have to play multiplayer.....I really feel for players that don't like it or don't want to play it.

#25018
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Good work team.

#25019
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I just want them to tell us what's going on already. I think having us waiting for a 'true ending' (if that is the case) after we've already paid is bad! I love BW and ME, but I want that ending changed, I just pray BW do something about it. And those tweets of vague hints ain't helping. It could be anything, like a pre-ending mission that doesn't have an effect on the ending or something. But I am getting the whole indocteration vibe from the ending.

#25020
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TamiBx wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

BIO18 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

Yeah I did too. I think I got into the 5000 or 6000s. But with multiplayer I got 7000+ and 100% galactic readiness which some players forget about...it does matter!


Wait, what? Are you saying you got over 5000EMS (not TMS, but EMS) without ever touching multiplayer?! :blink:



Na he is either not telling the truth or he sucks at math.
If he had 7000+ ems with 100%galactic readiness it means he would have had around 3500 ems without MP


"She" by the way. Though it was my mistake because I was thinking EMS, not TMS.

Just checked my last save:
TMS: 7107
EMS: 6893 (Still damn close)
Galactic readiness: 97% (since I haven't played since last night but it was 100/99% making the rest higher)



Oh, okay. That's fine. I'm just trying to find someone who achieved that without touching multiplayer, like Bioware promised that was possible...then again, Bioware promised us many things...:crying:


Yeah, this annoys me, for the simple fact that they lied to us... unless we're missing something.

#25021
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People4Peace wrote...

BIO18 wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

Can't get the stupid fish without romancing Kelly, and I play a FemShep who is not really interested in girls, so...:(
Also, if you've never played ME before, fish is out of the question. 


I have yet to see someone who has gotten over 4000EMS without ever touching  multiplayer. 


Yeah I did too. I think I got into the 5000 or 6000s. But with multiplayer I got 7000+ and 100% galactic readiness which some players forget about...it does matter!


Wait, what? Are you saying you got over 5000EMS (not TMS, but EMS) without ever touching multiplayer?! :blink:



Na he is either not telling the truth or he sucks at math.
If he had 7000+ ems with 100%galactic readiness it means he would have had around 3500 ems without MP


"She" by the way. Though it was my mistake because I was thinking EMS, not TMS.

Just checked my last save:
TMS: 7107
EMS: 6893 (Still damn close)
Galactic readiness: 97% (since I haven't played since last night but it was 100/99% making the rest higher)





No disrespect intended miss. You where close, but I think its virtualy impossible to have 4000 without MP :(
To my great dispair 

#25022
laughing sherpa girl

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Matt_gekko88 wrote...

What?


the kid even resembles the shining.

#25023
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purplehaybusa wrote...

Only the My Little Pony thread comes close to matching this one in rapid growth.



Where is this my little pony thread exactly....

#25024
Matt_gekko88

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People4Peace wrote...


Yay! We did it! :wizard:


on our own, without Space-Magic
..
okay, maybe a little

:wizard:

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DJ Shepard wrote...

1000! Drinks on the citadel for everyone......oh wait....never mind


Ouch.... funny but still.... ouch